Will weed ever be legal in Ireland?

Dr Crayfish

It's legal to get high now in California and other states in USA. Can anyone ever see it happen here? Personally I don't think so, if you look at our drinking laws etc we're actually a very conservative country. I still think there'd be uproar if they were to start talking about it for real. There are still lots of religious nuts here and there is of course Joe Duffy, our moral barometer.
I like to smoke some maybe once every week or two after the pub, and so may people do. I don't particularly care that it's illegal, but I'd be interested to see if others think the laws towards it will ever progress.

tomwaterford

The gaurds just seem to turn a blind eye to it from what I see


I've often been in what would be regarded as nicer pubs around waterford city and offered it (dont smoke it myself...just as a personal perference)

21Savage

Couldn't give af.

As you were, 21S x

Donald Trump

Atlantic Dawn

There's too much influence from the pharmaceutical industry for it to ever happen.

Donald Trump

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There's too much influence from the pharmaceutical industry for it to ever happen.

Don't forget "The Man"

Dr Crayfish

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

There's too much influence from the pharmaceutical industry for it to ever happen.

Surely you’d say that about America if anywhere and they are leading the way?

Capt'n Midnight

Will weed ever be legal in Ireland?

Yes it is , in certain circumstances , from last year

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/first-licence-granted-to-treat-pain-with-cannabis-463088.html

Hector Bellend

As long as we can pay for legal fanny too.

Donald Trump

Hector Bellend wrote: »

As long as we can pay for legal fanny too.

You need to get stoned before putting your bellend to use?

Hector Bellend

Donald Trump wrote: »

You need to get stoned before putting your bellend to use?

And my fanny

JupiterKid

Yes, I think weed will eventually be legal here, but it will be a long while yet. Ireland is not really a progressive country in any meaningful sense, although we like to pretend that we are.

I expect the biggest opposition to decriminalizing or legalizing cannabis here will come from the all-powerful alcoholic drinks industry.

buried

Legalized weed in Ireland. lol That's a good one man. The f**king internet will be made illegal here next once the proposed minimum pricing SCAM doesn't work for the vintner federation. Can't have more free time avenues that don't involve running to the $hithole pub. The sun will be a long time exploded before you see anything like weed being legalized here, unless people vote the right way.

Dr Brown

JupiterKid wrote: »

Yes, I think weed will eventually be legal here, but it will be a long while yet. Ireland is not really a progressive country in any meaningful sense, although we like to pretend that we are.

I expect the biggest opposition to decriminalizing or legalizing cannabis here will come from the all-powerful alcoholic drinks industry.

Also the likes Sinn Fein are never going to want to legalise cannabis because they would lose millions in revenue if it ever became legal.

Richard Hillman

Too much bitching about mental health for it to happen any time soon. Although it will happen eventually and will be immediately after the UK does it.

freshpopcorn

It might be some day but we'd probably have a referendum on it. Lots of people are very wary of weed in my experience. It's not one of these things that everybody does.

buried

freshpopcorn wrote: »

It might be some day but we'd probably have a referendum on it. Lots of people are very wary of weed in my experience. It's not one of these things that everybody does.

I don't do horse racing, I'm highly wary of it, I've seen the damage it's gambling culture has done to a few of my friends. But in this country every couple of months that racket is literally rammed down my throat through TV, radio, pubs, newspapers. Where's the backlash and moral outrage for that wary damaging culture heightened to the nines up in this country?

wakka12

Its pretty socially acceptable, do gardai even care about it? If you walk around a park in dublin on a sunny day when loads of people are out sunbathing you'll smell weed everywhere and nobody cares

freshpopcorn

buried wrote: »

I don't do horse racing, I'm highly wary of it, I've seen the damage it's gambling culture has done to a few of my friends. But in this country every couple of months that racket is literally rammed down my throat through TV, radio, pubs, newspapers. Where's the backlash and moral outrage for that wary damaging culture heightened to the nines up in this country?

Lots of people would like to see gambling banned because it has ruined lots of lives. Similar to people's views on weed they wouldn't want to legalise things that would bring more hardship on people.

MadYaker

freshpopcorn wrote: »

It might be some day but we'd probably have a referendum on it. Lots of people are very wary of weed in my experience. It's not one of these things that everybody does.

Pretty sure it wouldn't require a change to the constitution so no referendum needed. Just a progressive enough government. Humans have been smoking weed for thousands of years and it's only been illegal since the 60s. When it is eventually legal again people will probably think that banning it was pointless and stupid, similar to our views on prohibition in the USA at the start of the 20th century. Banning it just makes criminals rich. Legalise, regulate and tax it is the common sense option like we do with alcohol and a multitude of other drugs some of which are far more harmful.

freshpopcorn

Just to note I'm not really anti cannabis and not pushed about it to be honest. I'm just speaking about things in my experience and the view I get off people in my area.

buried

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Lots of people would like to see gambling banned because it has ruined lots of lives. Similar to people's views on weed they wouldn't want to legalise things that would bring more hardship on people.

Big difference here though is that by making weed illegal it has created bad strains of uncontrolled and unsanctioned product that has made weed a hardship on people. I like to smoke weed but can't because its illegality here has created bad harsh variants on the product I don't enjoy here,
Gambling is a hardship no matter what its strain, yet gambling and especially horse racing gambling in this country is lauded as some sort of important cultural reference point here through our media. That is completely and totally F**ked.

Oldtree

I think it will. Once the californian tax take on it becomes well known, the temptation will be too much, esp with the pressures of garda/judicial/customs/etc funding being needed in other much more serious areas.

One eyed Jack

Dr Crayfish wrote: »

It's legal to get high now in California and other states in USA. Can anyone ever see it happen here? Personally I don't think so, if you look at our drinking laws etc we're actually a very conservative country. I still think there'd be uproar if they were to start talking about it for real. There are still lots of religious nuts here and there is of course Joe Duffy, our moral barometer.
I like to smoke some maybe once every week or two after the pub, and so may people do. I don't particularly care that it's illegal, but I'd be interested to see if others think the laws towards it will ever progress.

As Captain M pints out, THC is already licenced here under strict conditions for medicinal purposes.

I don't foresee any relaxation in the laws regarding recreational use when the above arguments (and I use that term loosely) you've made for it's decriminalisation are a demonstration as to why it should remain illegal outside of being licenced for medicinal purposes.

OnDraught

As soon as it's legal in the UK we'll have it here. Another 5 years I'd imagine.

Fromvert

It'll be legal for recreational use in Canada later this year, once a few more countries do the same, Ireland will then follow. Could be 10 years but I'll be optimistic and go with 5 years.

It's very easily purchased in Canada right now online (illegally) and the cops turn a blind eye to it, they're not allowed open mail and Canada Post have a if you vacuum seal it we don't care policy. Buy online, weed or edibles and it'll arrive in a couple of days.

suicide_circus

You can't walk round Dublin city centre for an hour without getting that sweet damp odour up your nostrils. Not that I know what it smells like

( ⚆ _ ⚆ )


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RobbingBandit

As long as they all smoke it while wearing a hazmat suit stuff stinks worse than gone off meat. If you like it that much keep it all to yourself stinking hipster monsters.

6541

100 percent it will be made legal. As other posters have pointed out, if the UK legalise it, when the government realizes the amount of revenue it can raise from tax. Now here is the thing, the person who has the cash and the connections to open shops at the get go will be a multi-millionaire over night. You can be guaranteed that there are folk waiting in the side lines for this.

King George VI

Hopefully never. I've never met anyone that smoked weed *regularly* that isn't a lazy, unmotivated bastard. And the one's who are devoted to weed are smelly and weed is the only thing they talk about.

suicide_circus

King George VI wrote: »

Hopefully never. I've never met anyone that smoked weed *regularly* that isn't a lazy, unmotivated bastard. And the one's who are devoted to weed are smelly and weed is the only thing they talk about.

We can't all be Gordon Gekko your majesty

seamus

Legal, don't know. Decriminalised probably within five years. It'll just become too plentiful for the Gardai to meaningfully police it and they won't want to bother.

Legalising it I'm kind of 50-50 on. And not really because of the mental health/public health aspect. Because people who want to get fncked up will get fncked up.

But more because I'm concerned about the "natural medicine, dude!" crap that's being growing up around it. If facebook were to be believed, Marijuana can cure Cancer, MS, HIV, ALS, epilepsy, and virtually every chronic pain condition that exists.

When these claims are simply not true. The effectiveness of cannabis for treating anything is way less marked than is made out, and completely unproven for the vast majority of cases that people claim.

In many cases while it is often noted that some people experience improvements in symptoms after taking cannabis, it's often several times less effective than actual medication, and my major concern would be that people would self-medicate with cannabis and prolong (or worsen) their condition rather than seek proper treatment.

Pintman Paddy Losty

I wouldn't like to see it legalised.

It's a dirty drug that I would hate to see any of my children smoking. It makes people lazy, paranoid and stupified.

It also leads people on to harder drugs as well.

irelandrover

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I wouldn't like to see it legalised.

It's a dirty drug that I would hate to see any of my children smoking. It makes people lazy, paranoid and stupified.

It also leads people on to harder drugs as well.

How does it lead people onto harder drugs?

MadYaker

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I wouldn't like to see it legalised.

It's a dirty drug that I would hate to see any of my children smoking. It makes people lazy, paranoid and stupified.

It also leads people on to harder drugs as well.

It makes me sad that in this day and age people are still so ignorant.

Donald Trump

Hector Bellend wrote: »

Donald Trump wrote: »

You need to get stoned before putting your bellend to use?

And my fanny

Always handy to have both!

utyh2ikcq9z76b

Will defo be legalised, you only have to watch CNBC and Bloomberg etc they are wetting themselves over the profits being made

bodhrandude

Fromvert wrote: »

It'll be legal for recreational use in Canada later this year, once a few more countries do the same, Ireland will then follow. Could be 10 years but I'll be optimistic and go with 5 years.

It's very easily purchased in Canada right now online (illegally) and the cops turn a blind eye to it, they're not allowed open mail and Canada Post have a if you vacuum seal it we don't care policy. Buy online, weed or edibles and it'll arrive in a couple of days.

The Cops might turn a blind eye but not if customs inform them first, was watching an episode of Stop, Seize and Search on Pick TV recently where a package was intercepted from Canada in the post.

Keyzer

No... thread closed.

dinorebel

Keyzer wrote: »

No... thread closed.

Are you that stoned you think you're a mod?

chrissb8

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I wouldn't like to see it legalised.

It's a dirty drug that I would hate to see any of my children smoking. It makes people lazy, paranoid and stupified.

It also leads people on to harder drugs as well.

I never answer these kind of threads but I'm feeling frisky today and will bite. I have a full time job, a degree, a good social life, friends, a partner and exercise 2-4 times a week.

I smoke everyday. That's not me tooting my own horn either. Am I saying that everyone is the same as me? No certainly not, I know some smokers as per your description. Just like alcohol doesn't suit some people weed doesn't suit others.

I'll offer an alternative view though and use the best example I know i.e. Me: That is, that weed heightens my experiences in life. I think laterally on it. Become more creative. If I listen to music or read a book I find I concentrate and absorb it better. But I also love sitting on my ass after a J and getting a takeaway too. It's great

My drinking on nights out has decreased hugely as the idea of smoking one or two and then waking up without a hangover is a lot more appealing on most occasions than drinking 7 or 8 drinks.

People who are lazy on weed are just lazy people in general I find. Also relatively boring and with not much else in their life. They find weed and then cling to it as their be all and end all. Sedating themselves throughout the days. Inevitably talking about it and the times they "were so stoned" as if that's all there is to life.

Then you have people who smoke and see it as just another aspect of their day to day life. Something they reward themselves with at the end of the day. Relaxing and turning off. It's not this thing that dictates their life. It just is what it is. Also find alot of people who are like this hate weed culture separating themselves away from the 420 stoner image. Just like maybe you've been pigeon holed as a drunken Irish monkey before you've even touched a pint before when in a bar in a foreign country when nothing could be further from the truth. It's the same with the stoner culture and smokers like this.

That said if things ever get too busy in my life weed is the first thing to go. As for the harder drugs argument most people I know on hard drugs every weekend would never toke a j but would get through half a bag of whatever is going in a night. Infact most weed smokers I know do hard drugs once in a blue moon. Again this is due to feeling like utter crap after it.

As for legality thing I would say yes to it. Ireland has a huge problem with drink and it would be a very welcome alternative for many. There is no viable argument for keeping it illegal par people's suspicions of what it does to you and just like drink it depends on person to person.

beertons

Yeah, it'd be great. Higher tobacco sales

pudzey101

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

I wouldn't like to see it legalised.

It's a dirty drug that I would hate to see any of my children smoking. It makes people lazy, paranoid and stupified.

It also leads people on to harder drugs as well.

but its ok for people to get stupid drunk ? leading to assault , breakups of marriage , loss of job etc . weed > alcohol IMO

how many people die of alcohol related deaths every year compared to abit of weed ?

Harika

pudzey101 wrote: »

how many people die of alcohol related deaths every year compared to abit of weed ?

Doesn't this show that the ban on weed works? *scnr* :pac:

King George VI

King George VI wrote: »

Hopefully never. I've never met anyone that smoked weed *regularly* that isn't a lazy, unmotivated bastard. And the one's who are devoted to weed are smelly and weed is the only thing they talk about.

Lol. How would you know? I know a number of people who smoke weed regularly, who have professional jobs in competitive industries or own their own businesses. Many stoners are capable of showering themselves, wearing clean clothes, and not bragging to strangers about their personal habits.

We really need to get past this stereotype of stoners being wasters.

dundalkfc10

I know many people who smoke joints regularly and all have Professional Jobs, including myself.

35 now and 20 years of smoking joints and ive yet to move on to the Harder Drugs as ive seen some say.

I think it's inevitable for the simple reason it's eventually going to happen in the UK. And we all know where the UK goes, Ireland tends to follow. Maybe not today or tomorrow, but eventually we do. And if it happens in the wee north it'll only be a colossal waste of Garda time and money trying to plug that hole, making the existing law both pointless and unenforceable as well as deeply unpopular should they even try.

Agree with what an earlier poster said about the alcoholic drinks industry being able to sway the government, nothing new there of course, though the influence of the actual publicans isn't what it was since the public started voting with their feet and abandoning them. The likes of Diageo, etc can only delay the inevitable for so long.

mcsean2163

My two cents.

Criminalising weed puts relatively law abiding young people on the wrong side of the law and consequently afraid of police. This is surely the last thing we want to happen.

It's a great source of income for criminal gangs.

It also makes a mockery of the law as so many people openly smoke weed.

Legalise it.

mcsean2163

mcsean2163 wrote: »

My two cents.

Criminalising weed puts relatively law abiding young people on the wrong side of the law and consequently afraid of police. This is surely the last thing we want to happen.

It's a great source of income for criminal gangs.

It also makes a mockery of the law as so many people openly smoke weed.

Legalise it.

This. Why is legislation being delayed? Alcohol & cigarettes proven to be far more destructive. Fear factor versus mortality, oblivious of stark truth.

mcsean2163

Ask your councillors/ TD's. When they came to the door I asked them about their drug policy. When he started on tough on drugs, I asked when they were going to legalise marijuana.

I'm not saying it's a good thing. I know lots of people that have not had a good outcome from too much weed but same for alcohol. One person should not be viewed as a criminal and another a good citizen based on their drug of choice, imho.

bodhrandude

A cannabis cafe has opened up in Waterford, it should be interesting to see how this develops.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/examviral/a-cannabis-coffee-shop-has-opened-in-waterford-872708.html