Conspiracy about the flat earth conspiracy - Thread bans in OP

Bruno Mannheim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120608614#Comment_120608614

Your fact is far from a fact without proving it yourself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoGTBdu7dMc

Bruno Mannheim

Question to anyone here:

If you stood on top of the Sugar Loaf on a clear day, do you think you could see the Mourne Mountains? It's probably about 80 miles away

Dohnjoe

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120619200#Comment_120619200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBtx1MDi5tY

Some flat-earth believers accidentally proving that water bends.

magicbastarder

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120619208#Comment_120619208

on a clear day, we were able to easily see the mournes and the cooley peninsula from our office in leopardstown. our building was at about 90m and we were on the fourth floor.

someone posted a link (in the interesting maps thread, i think) to a site which will calculate sightlines for you. will try to find it.

Bruno Mannheim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120619309#Comment_120619309

How far then on a clear day from your office in Leopardstown do you think you could physically see uninterrupted and do you roughly know how high up you are from your office vantage point? Were you 90m up ?

magicbastarder

there are calculators online which can tell you; if we were say 20m up in the building itself (i.e. at 110m above sea level), the sea level hoizon you could see from there would be 37km away. slieve donard is 850m, which would add another 104km to that, 141km in total.

slieve donard is 102km from the office.

Bruno Mannheim

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120619452#Comment_120619452

its probably safe to say you can make out the top of Slieve Donard due to its height but maybe nothing below much more than half as chances are its going to be obscured by other mountains in the range

In saying that its possible then on a clear day to see up to 100km and maybe further

Do you think you would be able to see Holyhead or Wales? Its approximately the same distance?

Big Bag of Chips

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Thanks.

magicbastarder

it's not that i think you *would* be able to see wales from ireland - i *have* seen wales from dublin. it's easy to find photos online.

Big Bag of Chips

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Mellor

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astrofool

More private citizens flying into space to see what's really there.

They're making it really hard on themselves to keep flat earth a secret.

SpaceX launches first Arab woman on private flight to International Space Station | Science & Tech News | Sky News

Advanced simulators maybe?

robinph

You'd think that if they were trying to keep it secret about the earth being flat, they would stop doing things which requires it to be a globe. The more times they launch more people into space then the more people who have to be let in on the secret about it really being flat and somehow get them all to never speak about it.

Would be far easier if NASA just told us that it was impossible to launch rockets into space, say that the USSR lied about Sputnik, and then restrict anyone getting access to rocket fuel. Would be far easier to manage just not letting people travel into space and telling them there was nothing interesting up there to see until people get bored of looking at stars.

magicbastarder

FWIW, here's one of the online tools which will show you what you can see from a given point.

https://www.peakfinder.org/?lat=53.34212&lng=-6.15132&azi=107.13&alt=-0.08&fov=110&cfg=s&name=

Oudeicrat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120606095#Comment_120606095

I plugged the numbers into Walter Bislin's Advanced Earth Curvature Calculator (sorry I can't post a link as a newbie, but you can easily google it) and even at standard refraction it appears that the entire Notre Dame should be visible even with a little bit of the ground under it. So maybe the natural phenomenon that those other calculators don't consider is standard atmospheric refraction. Note that depending on atmospheric conditions local refraction can sometimes be much larger than "standard" and allow you see even farther beyond the earth curve.

Fighting Tao

Funny how some still disagree with something proved so long ago

https://twitter.com/historyinmemes/status/1680273323979165696?s=61&t=DxstfHfpdHZgwdFp-yaZEg

The Nal

Not sure why this thread exists.

Anyone who says the earth is flat is either a boring troll or in need of urgent psychological intervention.

King Mob

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120857579#Comment_120857579

Said it before, but I think the thread is a good way to demonstrate how most conspiracy theories are indistinguishable from stuff like this and Q anon.

The arguments are exactly the same and they all rely on the same logic as the folks who profess belief in these things.

The only defense raised against this is to speculate that flat earths must be part of a government conspiracy to discredit real conspiracy theories.

This was also brought up last time there was a feedback thread about conspiracy theories. I asked which conspiracy theories would be considered valid and permissible on this forum, but the issue was never addressed.

Fighting Tao

The real conspiracy is groups pushing flat earth just to sell merchandise to gullible fools.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121302951#Comment_121302951

What proofs does he provide?

Fighting Tao

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121302951#Comment_121302951

Why would we check out a random video that you want us to. Tell us about the contents and why it’s so compelling. It’s usual conspiracy theorist BS to say watch this without any more info, and usually the conspiracy theorist hasn’t even watched it themselves.

randd1

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120857890#Comment_120857890

I think you're onto something there. I'm convinced they're trying to tap into the "alternative" merchandising market, the "so stupid it's funny" kind of thing.

Things like a crazy looking poster of a flat earth with a turtle on it saying "No more nukes, my shell cant take it", or a mug with the tagline "No global warming if there's no globe", or a t-shirt with the NASA on it with the NASA acronym meaning Not A Sphere A*sholes!!

That I got could get, pushing crazy in order to create an "alternative" market to make a few bob off of wacky merchandise. We've all bought stupid things for a laugh when we were young.

But anyone with a genuine belief in a flat earth is either a genuine moron, an out and out conspiracy theorist, or an escaped mental patient. Or a mixture of the three.