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'FREE' HOUSE FOR CHRISTMAS

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1


    It's a lease via a co-op, hardly a free house.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭Tefral


    28 council houses in one estate... well that will end well.

    I know its not PC to say that but the people alongside them who got a mortgage for their houses is who i feel sorry for.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,329 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    Tefral wrote:
    28 council houses in one estate... well that will end well.

    That shouldn't be allowed to become an issue. The real problem is they're considered forever homes and there are no consequences for anti social behaviour.


  • Registered Users Posts: 43,024 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    There's a catch

    You have to spend the rest of your life in Sixmilebridge Co Clare


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Tefral wrote: »
    28 council houses in one estate... well that will end well.

    I know its not PC to say that but the people alongside them who got a mortgage for their houses is who i feel sorry for.

    Do you think everyone who rents that type of housing is an anti social degenerate?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,034 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Look at the solar panels.....if only I could afford solar panels.


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,548 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There's a catch

    You have to spend the rest of your life in Sixmilebridge Co Clare

    Could be worse, could be Threemilehouse.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭Ralf and Florian


    That shouldn't be allowed to become an issue. The real problem is they're considered forever homes and there are no consequences for anti social behaviour.

    I'd like to think they'll be vetting tenants beforehand.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Could be worse, could be Threemilehouse.

    or Twopothouse


  • Registered Users Posts: 20,548 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    or Twopothouse

    The old one or the new one?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,034 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I'd like to think they'll be vetting tenants beforehand.

    You can't vet their offspring.

    Who knows if little Johnnie now at 2 isn't going to be a scumbag later in life.

    It may be controversial, but these type of estates usually have a higher level of anti-social behaviour than ones where everyone has bought their own homes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,555 ✭✭✭SuperSean11


    Everyone: "We need more social housing for the homeless...just not in my neighbourhood/town/county/country etc."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 132 ✭✭Obvious Otter


    Everyone: "We need more social housing for the homeless...just not in my neighbourhood/town/county/country etc."

    We need affordable housing... Rising our social welfare bill is completely unsustainable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    NIMAN wrote: »
    You can't vet their offspring.

    Who knows if little Johnnie now at 2 isn't going to be a scumbag later in life.

    It may be controversial, but these type of estates usually have a higher level of anti-social behaviour than ones where everyone has bought their own homes.

    I've lived beside one of these estates for 10 years, never had an issue. Most of the residents are working people, its not scumbag central.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    There's a catch

    You have to spend the rest of your life in Sixmilebridge Co Clare

    That's where they filmed mad max wasn't it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    That's where they filmed mad max wasn't it?

    That was just Davy Fitz going off on one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭eoins23456


    There's a catch

    You have to spend the rest of your life in Sixmilebridge Co Clare

    Theres a train station out of the place very close to that estate so its not the worst. An the airport is only a few miles away..


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,034 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    eviltwin wrote: »
    I've lived beside one of these estates for 10 years, never had an issue. Most of the residents are working people, its not scumbag central.

    Maybe you got lucky.....but there are plenty of scumbags around.

    Or maybe my knowledge of Derry is skewing my opinion?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Maybe you got lucky.....but there are plenty of scumbags around.

    Or maybe my knowledge of Derry is skewing my opinion?

    Maybe it is. I don't think the estate beside me is an anomaly, there are a few of these estates in my area and there seems to be relatively few problems. I live on a council estate myself, I'm used to being written off as a skanger because of where I live and for no reason than lazy stereotyping.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    We need affordable housing... Rising our social welfare bill is completely unsustainable.
    100% this. We need to make it easier for ordinary people to afford a home (rent or buy) not for the tax payer to fund forever homes


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,200 ✭✭✭imme


    When I saw the thread title I imagined an invitation to an orgy or at least a story about same.


  • Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I was hoping the op made a typo and put an f instead of a t at the start.

    That would be cool


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,572 ✭✭✭khaldrogo


    eviltwin wrote:
    Do you think everyone who rents that type of housing is an anti social degenerate?


    Of course not all of them but the bad outweigh the good. There is a reason why the vast majority of council estates have bad names.

    My 5 yr old is in bed by 8pm. The kids in these estates seem to have no routine or bedtime.......young kids crave routine. They seem to be allowed roam free as the parents are too busy


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    khaldrogo wrote: »
    Of course not all of them but the bad outweigh the good. There is a reason why the vast majority of council estates have bad names.

    My 5 yr old is in bed by 8pm. The kids in these estates seem to have no routine or bedtime.......young kids crave routine. They seem to be allowed roam free as the parents are too busy

    That's as maybe but this isn't a council estate, it's cooperative housing, a totally different animal.

    And I live on a council estate as do my children, they aren't automatically feral because of where they happen to live.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    Tefral wrote: »
    28 council houses in one estate... well that will end well.

    I know its not PC to say that but the people alongside them who got a mortgage for their houses is who i feel sorry for.

    What a load of tosh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,568 ✭✭✭BillyBobBS


    We need affordable housing... Rising our social welfare bill is completely unsustainable.

    Eh social housing has nothing to do with social welfare. :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,439 ✭✭✭tupenny


    Happy for that family. Stating the obvious but its as simple as this-
    Housing should be affordable for all


  • Registered Users Posts: 25,693 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    eviltwin wrote: »
    That's as maybe but this isn't a council estate, it's cooperative housing, a totally different animal. .

    Not different at all.

    It's just social housing with an non-profit company which thinks of itself as a co-operative as landlord instead of the council. All tenants have to come from the regular housing list.

    The estate will likely get some who have had problems with the council in the past, and promised to behave better in future if they're allocated somewhere else as a fresh start.

    As regards vetting, all it really does is make sure that the guards don't think it's a bad idea to put the people into the estate. It's not legal for the council to refuse housing to someone who's in need of it, just because they have a criminal record.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,358 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    eviltwin wrote: »
    That's as maybe but this isn't a council estate, it's cooperative housing, a totally different animal. .

    Not different at all.

    It's just social housing with an non-profit company which thinks of itself as a co-operative as landlord instead of the council. All tenants have to come from the regular housing list.

    The estate will likely get some who have had problems with the council in the past, and promised to behave better in future if they're allocated somewhere else as a fresh start.

    As regards vetting, all it really does is make sure that the guards don't think it's a bad idea to put the people into the estate. It's not legal for the council to refuse housing to someone who's in need of it, just because they have a criminal record.

    I thought the estate management checks are quite strict nowadays.. with no recent convictions and no serious ones.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    NIMAN wrote: »
    You can't vet their offspring.

    Who knows if little Johnnie now at 2 isn't going to be a scumbag later in life.

    If everyone thought like this, no one would ever buy a house anywhere.


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