P.E is now going to be examinable for leaving cert

cloudatlas

How will Leaving Certificate Physical Education work?

http://curriculumonline.ie/getmedia/41817053-8f40-4365-8893-dba1a68508f3/LCPE_Specification_en.pdf

I haven't read too much into it just seen a couple of silly comments online where physical education has been pitted against the study of English literature.

I feel that p.e. classes should be reformed and spread out more throughout the week but I think if you want to participate in sport or gain a basis for studying sports science then the avenues are already in place, extracurricular sporting activities, biology and chemistry.

I just feel that this will be seen as a doss subject by many and something where the difficulty and academic rigour is dumbed down.

Benildus

I wouldn't call it a doss subject, 50% will still on the written examination:

Physical activity project 20%
Performance assessment 30%
Written examination 50%

Transform

i honestly wish 50% of my sports science degree was based on physical fitness, it was a joke the number of people i completed my degree with that couldnt do a pull up or pass a basic mobility test

this also - https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/11/171122093024.htm

cloudatlas

Benildus wrote: »

I wouldn't call it a doss subject, 50% will still on the written examination:

Physical activity project 20%
Performance assessment 30%
Written examination 50%

I'm not sure what a performance assessment would look like or how that training would be funded. 50 percent is very low compared with other subjects that require academic rigour. Home Economics covers nutrition, p.e. is already prescribed, chemistry and biology cover information that aids scientific research, there are loads of extra curriculum activities already in place. It just seems surplus to requirement. It may encourage these youngsters to over train.

Vetch

Kind of related - this story was in the Irish Times a few weeks ago.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/why-are-so-many-12-year-olds-unable-to-run-jump-or-catch-1.3303077

The stats right at the end are scary. Reading this you'd wonder if the physical side of PE should be emphasised more than the theory but it's sad that this sort of stuff needs to be done in school.

Powerhouse

Benildus wrote: »

I wouldn't call it a doss subject, 50% will still on the written examination:

Physical activity project 20%
Performance assessment 30%
Written examination 50%

I would reserve judgement on that until I saw the written paper. But I'd say it will be regarded as doss subject by many who will feel they are simply able to capitalise on whatever sport they are doing and will be required to do little that they are not already doing. It could be argued that it is no different from having computer games as an examinable subject. It is also highly debateable that it will make an iota of a difference to participation rates in physical activity as presumably those with no such inclination will give it the swerve anyway.

Mellor

Transform wrote: »

i honestly wish 50% of my sports science degree was based on physical fitness, it was a joke the number of people i completed my degree with that couldnt do a pull up or pass a basic mobility test

I get where you are coming form, but isn't the point of education is knowledge?
Physical ability shouldn't be a factor in achieving/testing that knowledge. Just because somebody is strong enough to do a few pull ups, doesn't mean they know anything more about exercise physiology than the overweight bloke in class.

Wanderer78

Yipee, everyone loves exams, they always motivate us to do better!

Dtp1979

At least kids might leave school now with the understanding that whey protein isn’t a magic drug you must take within 15 mins after lifting weights

Reps4jesus

Dtp1979 wrote: »

At least kids might leave school now with the understanding that whey protein isn’t a magic drug you must take within 15 mins after lifting weights

Hold on what???? the guy peddling protein on youtube was lying about the anabolic window???

Dtp1979

Reps4jesus wrote: »

Hold on what???? the guy peddling protein on youtube was lying about the anabolic window???

I’m afraid do bud. Sorry to ruin Xmas

Transform

Mellor wrote: »

I get where you are coming form, but isn't the point of education is knowledge?
Physical ability shouldn't be a factor in achieving/testing that knowledge. Just because somebody is strong enough to do a few pull ups, doesn't mean they know anything more about exercise physiology than the overweight bloke in class.

absolutely true yet in every single session i work with clients there are points where I must demonstrate what i want from the movement, you cant get them to learn if you simply ask them to do something, i find many are visual learners

Id add that look at the obesity rates in children, if this makes even the faintest dent in this then its worth it because the country will be dire straits in the coming years dealing with diabetes alone.

Mellor

Transform wrote: »

absolutely true yet in every single session i work with clients there are points where I must demonstrate what i want from the movement, you cant get them to learn if you simply ask them to do something, i find many are visual learners

You absolutely should be capable of performing the movements to work as A PT. But you've touched on another issue here. A sports science degree shouldnt synonymous with personal training course. There's obviously overlap but imo a degree should be broader in scope and also opportunity. Otherwise what's the point.

I appreciate that might not be the actual case in the industry.

21Savage

Transform wrote: »

absolutely true yet in every single session i work with clients there are points where I must demonstrate what i want from the movement, you cant get them to learn if you simply ask them to do something, i find many are visual learners

Id add that look at the obesity rates in children, if this makes even the faintest dent in this then its worth it because the country will be dire straits in the coming years dealing with diabetes alone.

Yes because bulking and cutting which most young lads do is so healthy for you :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Alf Veedersane

21Savage wrote: »

Yes because bulking and cutting which most young lads do is so healthy for you :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Most young lads don't exercise control over their caloric intake.

Transform

Who said anything about bulking and cutting?
I’m talking about teaching and performing basic movements