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Some questions reguarding Portlaoise PW depot

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    There's no plan to extend beyond M3 Parkway except in the minds of railway enthusiasts - is there?

    No immediate plans however a 34km extension serving Dunshaughlin, Kilmessan and two stations in Navan (Center and North) was proposed. They constructed the underpasses north of M3 Parkway while building the M3.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭IE 222


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    It wouldn't really, WRC II slow and wasteful investment.

    I dont think a comparison can be drawn between the WRC and Navan line. Upgrading of current line would be a fraction of the cost of WRC or purposed route.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    IE 222 wrote: »
    I dont think a comparison can be drawn between the WRC and Navan line. Upgrading of current line would be a fraction of the cost of WRC or purposed route.

    The comparision can be drawn from a journey time prospective, opening a railway which will be slower than the Motorway and existing bus services. The cheap cost isn't enough to justify such a route re opening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭IE 222


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    The comparision can be drawn from a journey time prospective, opening a railway which will be slower than the Motorway and existing bus services. The cheap cost isn't enough to justify such a route re opening.

    Its only a 20 odd mile section it doesn't need to stop at every station along the Northern line. 1:10hrs journey should be achievable and competitive with road.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,669 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    IE 222 wrote: »
    Its only a 20 odd mile section it doesn't need to stop at every station along the Northern line. 1:10hrs journey should be achievable and competitive with road.

    I would add 15 minutes to that time. Seriously, better spend extra on M3 side because it will be faster and better equipped to handle capacity.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭h.gricer


    tabbey wrote: »
    Rails can only be made in a steelworks.
    The last steelworks in Ireland(at Haulbowline) only produced corrugated sheets for sheds and roofs, a rather less sophisticated product.

    Traditionally we got our rails from the British Steel Corporation, made in their Workington plant.
    More recently TATA has supplied rails for Irish Rail, they are an Indian company, one of the world's leading steel makers, which may have taken over the remains of BSC.
    Other steelmakers in Europe, have also supplied rails to Ireland, perhaps Thyssen / Krupps.

    Rails have to be made to a very high standard, otherwise air bubbles would cause fractures and derailments. Point blades especially are vulnerable.
    The rails are imported into Waterford and transported to this depot were they are welded and some rails specially ''coated with anti corrosion'' for inside of tunnels, got a tour a few years ago, a lot of specialised work goes on there regarding rails.
    Regards
    hg


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭IE 222


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    I would add 15 minutes to that time. Seriously, better spend extra on M3 side because it will be faster and better equipped to handle capacity.

    My suggestion is allowing for speed increases upto 60-70 MPH on current line and easing congestion somewhat on the Northern line by using the savings from not going ahead with building the M3 line. What was the purposed travel time from Navan via M3. You also need to take into account of the extra PPT services now as well. Sligo line is very congested up to Glasnevin.


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