Golf Shoe Lifetime

Hoboo

Just looking for peoples thoughts on how long pair of shoes should last.

I have a pair of Sketchers Go Golf which I wear on parkland around once a week March to October, and on links during the wet months. There are no scuff marks on the sketchers at all, and they're over 2 years old.

I got a pair of Footjoy SL's in April/May for links during the summer, played once a week in them, always in dry conditions, and a hole has appeared on the right toe. This is a replacement pair from FJ, as the previous pair developed holes in both toes. The shoes are a perfect fit, 1/2 inch room at the front as recommended by FJ.

Is 7 months of play, once a week, acceptable for a pair of shoes that cost €165?

I returned them today to the well known shop (won't name them), and they insist FJ's warranty for the original pair is now out of date, even though they were faulty and were replaced. They say the original warranty timeframe is continued on the replacements, which to me makes no sense at all.

I understand I have consumer statutory rights, but before going down that road, I just wanted to get some opinions on what people consider fair use, and to ascertain if a pair of shoes which only last 6/7 months, wearing once a week, could be considered fit for purpose.

Cheers.

Running Balance

6 / 7 months is a joke especially if you only wear them 30 times or so.

I have had nike lunars for 3 years and also a pair of the new lunar controls for 6 months and they are still in full working order!

dan_ep82

Absolutely not.

If it was a low budget no name shoe you might expect this but not from a premium range/brand.

My addidas 360s are still perfect after two years if a bit grubby.

rollotomasi

Hoboo wrote: »

This is a replacement pair from FJ, as the previous pair developed holes in both toes.

2 years leak free is good going but depends on the cost of the shoe.

I had this issue with American Golf where I brought back a pair of shoes after 18 months (the shoes had a 2 year guarantee) and I was given a new pair but I was told I only had 6 months left not the warranty. I wasn't given a new receipt.

The shop's thinking is that if they give you full warranty on the replacement shoes, a customer could be back every year looking for free replacement shoes.

Im not sure what consumer rights are for something like shoes.

golfguy1

All golf shoe company's warranty state ur warranty starts on day of first purchase.
Footjoy no different to any others on that.
Find it hard to believe both shoes faulty
Imo they are either too big but in most cases or fj wide fit shoes are too wide for customers and shoes start to crack

Bottle

I returned 5 pairs of premium golf shoes over the last 12 months.... 1 pair of Adidas lasted 1 round before ripping. My previous pair of Adidas 360 lasted me 4 years without any issues. I felt embarrassed bringing the shoes back each time but felt that I had a genuine case and the shop considered the same. They came up with the same excuse at the end that the next replacement was without warranty. I have had no issues since.

FJ recommend having 2 pairs of golf shoes and rotating the same should mean that they last longer than 2 pairs on their own....

finglashoop

Bottle wrote: »

FJ recommend having 2 pairs of golf shoes and rotating the same should mean that they last longer than 2 pairs on their own....

How so?

Running Balance

Or buy 3 pairs and don't wear any of them - last a lifetime

Tom.D.BJJ

What is the warranty on a pair of golf shoes? I paid £160 for a pair of ECCO at the end of March. Spike came out during a round and the receptor is bent so can't get a new spike in. Shoes are pretty much useless now

Hoboo

Running Balance wrote: »

Or buy 3 pairs and don't wear any of them - last a lifetime

Hoboo

Tom.D.BJJ wrote: »

What is the warranty on a pair of golf shoes? I paid £160 for a pair of ECCO at the end of March. Spike came out during a round and the receptor is bent so can't get a new spike in. Shoes are pretty much useless now

FJ one is just a Waterproof Warranty.

newindublin

FJ shoes I had in the past were the worst shoes I have ever owned. I may be soured on a poor fit, but I will never buy FJ again. I have 2 pairs of Adidas Adicross which I have had for several years, only now one has worn out.

I will demo Sketchers on my next purchase due to the amazing pair of everyday shoes I have from them next purchase. But they will have to beat the Adicross in my demo.

Again, FJ were the worst shoes I have ever owned, still a mystery to me how they have such a big name.

Jaybeemaestro

My last two pairs were Skechers. I won a pair and they were so good I bought another pair in the Pro Shop when the old ones wore out, which were kinda my fault the way I wasn't undoing laces and kicking them off. Got a year out of those and still on the second pair. Had Adidas before that and they were ok. Have heard very good things about the Adiboost. Will probably go for Skechers again.

slave1

I've three pairs in the boot and rotate, have them all 3yrs now and only one of them leaking and that was the cheapest Nike Heritage

backspin.

newindublin wrote: »

Again, FJ were the worst shoes I have ever owned, still a mystery to me how they have such a big name.

Get the name of an early riser and you can lie to dinner time.

RoadRunner

Pity the warranty can't carry over so an initial purchase of shoes could mean I have new shoes for rest of my life

neckedit

I currently have 4 pairs of footjoys, 2 adidas and 2 Nike. all water proof.... all good. you want shoes to keep good,
Clean them and keep them dry, dont leave them in the boot of your car.

prawnsambo

neckedit wrote: »

I currently have 4 pairs of footjoys, 2 adidas and 2 Nike. all water proof.... all good. you want shoes to keep good,
Clean them and keep them dry, dont leave them in the boot of your car.

+1

I have two pairs of FJ and one Nike. The Nike are five years old and starting to leak a bit, so I just use them for practice. The FJs are one for summer one for winter and the older pair are three years old now and still perfect.

Don't leave them in the car, clean them after every use and treat them with Dubbin after they are played in the wet. The trick with Dubbin is to warm the shoes with a hairdryer and rub in the Dubbin. Keeps the leather supple and waterproof.

Also take the cleats out and clean them or replace if needed regularly. You'd be surprised how much dirt gets into them and their sockets.

plumber77

prawnsambo wrote: »

neckedit wrote: »

I currently have 4 pairs of footjoys, 2 adidas and 2 Nike. all water proof.... all good. you want shoes to keep good,
Clean them and keep them dry, dont leave them in the boot of your car.

+1

I have two pairs of FJ and one Nike. The Nike are five years old and starting to leak a bit, so I just use them for practice. The FJs are one for summer one for winter and the older pair are three years old now and still perfect.

Don't leave them in the car, clean them after every use and treat them with Dubbin after they are played in the wet. The trick with Dubbin is to warm the shoes with a hairdryer and rub in the Dubbin. Keeps the leather supple and waterproof.

Also take the cleats out and clean them or replace if needed regularly. You'd be surprised how much dirt gets into them and their sockets.

Fair play I reckon. I promise I'll do the above every time I get new shoes; happens first few weeks and then I stop. Envy that kind of dedication.

Kace

Used to be Ecco but the latest styles are horrible. Used to get 3/4 years out of those.

Have had €160 Sketchers for past 2 years. They have just had a break in the seal on the side of my foot - noticed when I was cleaning with the air gun. Play 30 odd times a year so I do not consider this good at all. Unfortunately I binned the receipt before the 2 years were up and then hey presto just got the hole / failure - annoyed!

prawnsambo

plumber77 wrote: »

Fair play I reckon. I promise I'll do the above every time I get new shoes; happens first few weeks and then I stop. Envy that kind of dedication.

Funny, but it's far easier to clean them if you start that way. Dubbin tends to reject water and mud so you can clean them easily with a damp cloth. Most clubs have an air line which is great for getting the bulk of the muck and grass off and then you just bring them indoors and leave for a day or so before cleaning them properly when they're fully dry.

Once you apply the dubbin, leave them for an hour or so and then buff them with a soft cloth. If your shoes have been a long time since they last got some TLC, it just takes a bit longer to clean them, but they're not a lost cause by any means. They might take a couple of coats of dubbin, but there's no doubt in my mind that it really makes the shoes waterproof.

benny79

wheres a good place to get dubbin?

martinkop

Any decent shoe shop should have it.

RoadRunner

RoadRunner wrote: »

Pity the warranty can't carry over so an initial purchase of shoes could mean I have new shoes for rest of my life

And this is the reason/problem. I know you are only saying it in jest but a friend of mine who is a pro said he routinely had people coming back to him year after year after 10/11 months saying their shoes were letting in and looking for a new pair.

He now has to keep a record of the initial purchase to cover the initial warranty. Some people have no shame.

prawnsambo

benny79 wrote: »

wheres a good place to get dubbin?

You should be able to get it in Tesco, that's where I've got it in the past. Punch make it in a 50ml tin. I'd advise getting a couple as it's a small enough tin.

Usually the bigger Tesco stores. Things have changed over the years and shoe polish and shoe care seem to have gone by the wayside.

Mushy

Instead of starting a new thread myself, what would people advise as best golf shoes to get? Considering time of year, waterproof ones are necessary, looked at Dryjoys but the footjoy reviews now have me wary

golfguy1

Mushy wrote: »

Instead of starting a new thread myself, what would people advise as best golf shoes to get? Considering time of year, waterproof ones are necessary, looked at Dryjoys but the footjoy reviews now have me wary

Skechers. 2 yr warranty can't fault them

Mushy

golfguy1 wrote: »

Mushy wrote: »

Instead of starting a new thread myself, what would people advise as best golf shoes to get? Considering time of year, waterproof ones are necessary, looked at Dryjoys but the footjoy reviews now have me wary

Skechers. 2 yr warranty can't fault them

Are they all waterproof?

Mushy

golfguy1 wrote: »

Mushy wrote: »

Instead of starting a new thread myself, what would people advise as best golf shoes to get? Considering time of year, waterproof ones are necessary, looked at Dryjoys but the footjoy reviews now have me wary

Skechers. 2 yr warranty can't fault them

Are they all waterproof?

golfguy1

Mushy wrote: »

Are they all waterproof?

Yes all skechers go golf pro shoes are waterproof with 2 yr warranty

Mushy

golfguy1 wrote: »

Mushy wrote: »

Instead of starting a new thread myself, what would people advise as best golf shoes to get? Considering time of year, waterproof ones are necessary, looked at Dryjoys but the footjoy reviews now have me wary

Skechers. 2 yr warranty can't fault them

Are they all waterproof?

Mushy

That wasn't supposed to go up multiple times. Thanks, will look at them

prawnsambo

Mushy wrote: »

Instead of starting a new thread myself, what would people advise as best golf shoes to get? Considering time of year, waterproof ones are necessary, looked at Dryjoys but the footjoy reviews now have me wary

If by 'reviews', you're going by what people are saying on this thread, then I'd have to disagree. No shoe will remain waterproof if it's not looked after. Every time shoes get wet, more oils leech from the leather until eventually the leather becomes water permeable and ultimately cracks. Stitching will also rot very quickly if they're left damp in the boot of the car.

As I said above, I have a pair of Footjoys three years and still going strong. Neckedit likewise has four pairs that are still waterproof after years of use.

Mushy

prawnsambo wrote: »

Mushy wrote: »

Instead of starting a new thread myself, what would people advise as best golf shoes to get? Considering time of year, waterproof ones are necessary, looked at Dryjoys but the footjoy reviews now have me wary

If by 'reviews', you're going by what people are saying on this thread, then I'd have to disagree. No shoe will remain waterproof if it's not looked after. Every time shoes get wet, more oils leech from the leather until eventually the leather becomes water permeable and ultimately cracks. Stitching will also rot very quickly if they're left damp in the boot of the car.

As I said above, I have a pair of Footjoys three years and still going strong. Neckedit likewise has four pairs that are still waterproof after years of use.

All very true. Worked in a shoe shop for years so would be treating them well. Like the Footjoys alright so will try some out. Are Dryjoys the best ones to get or would they be all be decently waterproof?

Hoboo

I had two pairs (FJ pro sl) that never got wet, were well looked after, worn once a week, kept in their box on a shelf when not used, never once left in the boot of my car, both split in the middle of the leather. In fairness the Pro SL leather is waifer thin, but thats a design flaw imho. Had a pair of FJ Greenjoys for €50 that lasted nearly 3 years of non stop abuse in horrible conditions. From my experience depends on the model, and Pro SL's didn't stand up. Have Sketchers over 2 years I wear in wet, parkland and winter and no problems at all. All are cleaned, dried and stored correctly.

No idea about Dryjoys but lads above all swear by them.

prawnsambo

Hoboo wrote: »

I had two pairs (FJ pro sl) that never got wet, were well looked after, worn once a week, kept in their box on a shelf when not used, never once left in the boot of my car, both split in the middle of the leather. In fairness the Pro SL leather is waifer thin, but thats a design flaw imho.

Thin leather will lose oils pretty quickly. But all leather will suffer like that regardless of thickness. That's why you treat them with Dubbin or a good quality wax shoe polish (Dubbin is colourless, so it's good for all colours). It replaces the oils that are lost and keeps the leather supple and waterproof. The ones I have for three years are FJ M-Project and the leather in them is pretty thin too. I don't usually use them during the winter, so I give them a refresh with Dubbin every so often to keep them supple.

It's just like your skin really. It needs moisturising.

charlieIRL

I have a pair of Adidas adipure (i think that's what they are called) and they were silly expensive when i got them but extremely comfortable and waterproof. I don't play a huge amount of golf, maybe twice a month during summer and rarely in winter, and they are leaking after 2 seasons. The €49 Nike heritage I got before them lasted longer!!

Ronney

Mushy wrote: »

All very true. Worked in a shoe shop for years so would be treating them well. Like the Footjoys alright so will try some out. Are Dryjoys the best ones to get or would they be all be decently waterproof?

I would trade up to the DNA's where possible. just picked up a pair on direct sports for less than €100 euros. Great shoe.

Have had a pair of Icons for 5 years and still going strong (playing in them bout 30 times a year mostly in Winter and had a pair of FJ sport for the summer which after 5 years have a tiny rip in the right toe)

Ronney

On the topic of Shoe lifetime, did anyone hear the No laying up pod interview with McIlroy?

He was asked how often he changes his shoes, he said every month or so.

Host asked does he just ring Nike up and ask for a pair of size 9's? He responded that they have Lathes made of his exact foot shape and custom make each pair.....how the other half lives

prawnsambo

Ronney wrote: »

On the topic of Shoe lifetime, did anyone hear the No laying up pod interview with McIlroy?

He was asked how often he changes his shoes, he said every month or so.

Host asked does he just ring Nike up and ask for a pair of size 9's? He responded that they have Lathes made of his exact foot shape and custom make each pair.....how the other half lives

To be fair, they'd be mad if they didn't. Shoes and in fact any equipment a pro uses would need to be fitted for them, anything that could affect performance would have a negative affect on their reputation. Maybe there's no direct correlation betweent McIlroy's difficulties switching to Nike and Nike's eventual closure of their equipment division, but it can't have helped.

Hoboo

Just an update on the FJ shoes I had issue with.

FJ have sent a full refund to the shop in question, just need to go up and pick another pair. If I can get something other than the Pro SL's I will, can't be having this messing again in a few months, makes me look like a chancer and hate the unnecessary animosity with the guy in the store.

Fair play though to the 'well known' retailer in question for sorting it out.

newindublin

Picked up a pair of Sketchers Go Golf Pro shoes a few weeks ago. I tried on about ever shoe they have in the McGuirks in Airside, and this was by far the most comfortable.

Have only a single round in them, but the difference is huge. Certainly the best pair of golf shoes I have ever owned.

davegilly

newindublin wrote: »

Picked up a pair of Sketchers Go Golf Pro shoes a few weeks ago. I tried on about ever shoe they have in the McGuirks in Airside, and this was by far the most comfortable.

Have only a single round in them, but the difference is huge. Certainly the best pair of golf shoes I have ever owned.

The Skechers are great especially for the price. Without a doubt the most comfortable shoe i have ever worn.

BigChap1759

Personally I think the performance and warranty of some of the big manufacturers is a joke. Must be against EU law for a second pair to have a reduced warranty - I’ve pushed Ecco on this before and got €100 voucher towards a new pair - you have to be a pain then u will get a better deal but most people just accept it

golfguy1

BigChap1759 wrote: »

Personally I think the performance and warranty of some of the big manufacturers is a joke. Must be against EU law for a second pair to have a reduced warranty - I’ve pushed Ecco on this before and got €100 voucher towards a new pair - you have to be a pain then u will get a better deal but most people just accept it

What kind of warranty do you expect/want

Hoboo

golfguy1 wrote: »

What kind of warranty do you expect/want

I understand why the manufacturer doesn't offer rolling warranties, you could technically return every 9 months for a new pair. Which is fair enough. But you could argue they sold you faulty goods in the first place, and could do the same continually until your year is up.

Warranty aside, I expect goods to be fit for purpose. Regardless of the warranty, your statutory rights take priority. From my experience the shop continually refers you to the warranty. Which they shouldn't be doing. A pair of waterproof golf shoes should last a year without letting water in, or indeed becoming unwearable due to tearing or other failures.

So regardless of warranty, the shop under consumer law should be refunding or replacing (albeit at a reduced rate depending on length of time). But they hide behind a warranty, which is secondary to the buyer seller contract and basic consumer rights. Something from my experience they had absolutely no grasp on.

BigChap1759

golfguy1 wrote: »

What kind of warranty do you expect/want

A lot more than the 1 year offered by many manufacturers - and I’d be more than happy with a repair as opposed to a new pair

golfguy1

BigChap1759 wrote: »

A lot more than the 1 year offered by many manufacturers - and I’d be more than happy with a repair as opposed to a new pair

Golf shoes can't be repaired as often it may not be an obvious fault.
Most golf shoe companies are going to get rid of warranties in the near future.
In a lot of cases it may be customers misuse of shoes or just chancing their arm to replace shoes every yr.
Most companies returns would be under 5 percent of sales which is pretty good when you consider the weather/conditions played in ireland

BigChap1759

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/consumer/consumer-myths-you-need-to-be-wary-of-1.1917921%3fmode=amp

Worth a read especially on warranty and dealing with the retailer - for electrical you have 6 years so buying a warranty is a waste of money as you are protected anyway

newindublin

Played Knightsbrook yesterday, it was very soggy after the rain overnight. They still have a fair amount of snow on the course too, so it was very wet. Despite all that the new Sketchers stayed completely dry. Here is a shot of them after the round:
Muddy Shoes

Knightsbrook was a great round of golf, would recommend it to anyone. Maybe a future course for the Boards Society?

Now off to clean those shoes...

stockdam

My FJs Dryjoys have lasted about 10 years with no sign of significant wear etc. I always have bought FJs and never had a problem with them.