My cousin was caught speeding in my car (which he took without permission)

Thestones

Your insurance will go up, I got 3 points and it did make a difference to the premium even though companies claim it doesn't. I did it online and tried with and without points to see the difference, higher when I clicked that I had points. 3 years you'll have of that. I actually took the points for my husband driving my car so it really annoys me that my insurance suffers but he needed a clean licence for work and we are a one salary family so I didn't have any choice and the money all comes from him! If I was in your situation I wouldn't be doing any favours!

uck51js9zml2yt

If he's capable of taking your car and speeding then he's capable of taking 3 points and a fine.
There should be no discussion on this one!

Rubberchikken

i havent read the replies but my advice is not to take the points.
do we need another van driver on the road ignoring speed limits? if he could take your car without permission, lie about it, break the speed limit and then expect you to lie and break the law, then he's hardly worth employing in a driver position.
if you're found to have lied, you'll be in trouble too. maybe your workplace doesnt care what type of vehicle you arrive in, but they might care about an employee who lies to the courts.

BrokenArrows

BetweenRockAndAHardPlace wrote: »

As the title says, my cousin was caught speeding in my car (which he took without permission) and now I got a FCPN in the post.

I had been drinking the night before and my home breath tester gave me a positive reading for being above the limit, so I left my car at home and got public transport to work. My cousin (who lives next door) saw my car there and told my dad that I gave him permission to use my car. I never knew about him taking the car until today.

He took my car and was caught at 126 km/h in a 12 km/h zone by a van. My dad was shocked that I didn't know and angry that my cousin lied to him.

I got the FCPN today. I am fuming.

Here's the catch. He's applying for a courier job that requires zero points on his license and he wants me to take the hit. He spent time and money on his C license. So he can't have the points. He wants me to take the hit and take the points (I am in a secure job where they don't care if you arrive by unicycle). I don't want points though but I don't want to spoil his chance of getting a good job.

Tell your cousin where to go.
Its not your problem.

Tell him that either him or someone else he knows needs to take the points.

Purple Mountain

Do you realise that he probably wasn't even insured on your car?
At best he might have had open drive policy so AFAIK that's only a 3rd party cover so if he had crashed your car that day, how was he going to cover that cost?

gaynorvader

Tigger99 wrote: »

Is that a typo or did he do 128 in a 12 km/h zone?

This is actually an important question. If he was doing 128 in a 120 zone, download a speedo app and check to see if your speedometer is calibrated. My current car reads 50 when I'm doing 45 and my last car read 50 when I was doing 53. Built in speedometers are not always bang on and he might be able to contest the points.

Tenigate

gaynorvader wrote: »

This is actually an important question. If he was doing 128 in a 120 zone, download a speedo app and check to see if your speedometer is calibrated. My current car reads 50 when I'm doing 45 and my last car read 50 when I was doing 53. Built in speedometers are not always bang on and he might be able to contest the points.

Worst. Advice. Ever.

It's not op's speedometer that said he was speeding. It's the speed trap's!

kylith

AFAIK you can argue with a speed trap as they have a 10% margin of error, so it might be worth your (or his) while contesting it. If it doesn't work then I would in no way advise taking the points, and I'd tell him he was lucky not to be being done for theft too.

kylith

AFAIK you can argue with a speed trap as they have a 10% margin of error, so it might be worth your (or his) while contesting it. If it doesn't work then I would in no way advise taking the points, and I'd tell him he was lucky not to be being done for theft too.

Mr. Incognito

I suspect its 126 in a 120km zone- the motorway

bucketybuck

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I suspect its 126 in a 120km zone- the motorway

And quite frankly, anybody who hasn't ever went 6kmp/h over the speed limit is a liar. I don't speed either but in the real world 6kmp/h is very little and sometimes it happens.

So I wouldn't crucify him for that, its just that lying so that he could take your car means that he is on his own for any consequences.

gaynorvader

Tenigate wrote: »

Worst. Advice. Ever.

It's not op's speedometer that said he was speeding. It's the speed trap's!

My point is, if the OP's speedometer said they weren't speeding, and the discrepancy is low (I think 10% might be right as Kylith said), they can have their cousin contest the ticket. I know of at least one person this has worked for and heard of others.

Still agree that OP should not take the points under any circumstances and the cousin should count themselves lucky they don't have a GTA charge too.

Pelvis

I would have thought 126km/hr would have been let slip, seems too close to the actual limit to be worth perusing, considering the margin for error.

nikkibikki

Pelvis wrote:

I would have thought 126km/hr would have been let slip, seems too close to the actual limit to be worth perusing, considering the margin for error.

Me too. I reckon there's a typo in the OP.

Cuddlesworth

Pelvis wrote: »

I would have thought 126km/hr would have been let slip, seems too close to the actual limit to be worth perusing, considering the margin for error.

Nope. Cars speedo would have shown around 135-140 though.

I wouldn't take the points because he got caught speeding in a stolen car. He wouldn't last a month in a full time driving job if that's the case.

jimmycrackcorm

kylith wrote:

AFAIK you can argue with a speed trap as they have a 10% margin of error, so it might be worth your (or his) while contesting it

The speed traps take this into account.

seamus

He can take the points. Between sending forms back and forth it'll be a couple of months before they're applied to his licence, so he'll have the job before the points.

No biggie.

Dial Hard

All this discussion of typos, margins for error and calibration is a bit by-the-by. There's no such thing as a 12kmh zone in the first place, but whatever the actual speed limit was and whatever the speedo was reading, the fact is that the cousin was done for speeding. Everything else is just academic.

OP, your cousin's job offer isn't your problem. You'd be absolutely touched to take these points for him.

eviltwin

If you take the points you are a complete mug OP.

LegacyUser

seamus wrote: »

He can take the points. Between sending forms back and forth it'll be a couple of months before they're applied to his licence, so he'll have the job before the points. Everybody wins. I won't report the theft of my car.

No biggie.

He's accepted the job (and the points). He's lied about his points to his company (obviously due to data protection the company wouldn't have access to RSA database.

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Nope. Cars speedo would have shown around 135-140 though.

My speedo is bang on the mark actually. Yes, it is very unreasonable to get done for being 5% over the limit. It's equivalent to being fined on the quays at 31 km/h.