UFC 218 - Holloway v Aldo 2

Zero-Cool

https://twitter.com/btsportufc/status/935535039626039297

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZKlDVKr_2I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMdi4vCtOvQ

Max going in as favourite but I think it could a lot closer than people think.
I hope Reem and Magana get wrecked.
Fotn bonuses should already be signed for Eddie and Justin. That is gonna be an all out war.

Mellor

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Max going in as favourite but I think it could a lot closer than people think.
I hope Reem and Magana get wrecked.

I think Max will win but his price is way too short. Aldo is huge value at the current prices. This always happens, long term champ/hero loses, and gets repriced way too short.

I think I'm gonna have to begrudgingly back Aldo.

mailburner

It's goes the same way as the first one for me, have a hunch holloway might even finish aldo sooner.

dulux99

This is a cracker of a card. Really feels like an old throwback card almost. The new era where the blockbuster 3 title fight cards are great and all, but it feels like a type of card we'd get back in 2010/2011, with the title fight main event, two number one contender fights (Overeem v Ngannou, Pettis vs Cejudo) and the guaranteed barnbuner of a fight (Alvarez v Gaethje) thrown in for good meausre. Cant wait.

Joe Musashi

Rematch for the belt is uninteresting to me. Ngannou-Ubereem is a very interesting fight with probable fireworks. I am going to pick Overeem by stoppage late and will pick Eddie Alvarez to KO Gaethje. Gaethje is probably the most exciting fighter in MMA but he abandons his wrestling and gets hit clean and often. I like Alvarez to catch him early in an exchange and get the KO.

Gamebred

Reem is too crafty for Big Fran I think, Fran could break his skull but Im surprised Reem is such an underdog here, Aldo is finished dont care if he won 2 rounds last time Holloway improves every fight it will be a violent tko. Pettis will school Henry Cejudo different level striker.

ricero

Cracking fight card. Looking forward to this more than i was for 217

Useful.Idiot

Joe Musashi wrote: »

Gaethje is probably the most exciting fighter in MMA but he abandons his wrestling and gets hit clean and often.

You could literally say this exact same thing about Eddie. He's saying in interviews that he doesn't give a f*ck about game-plan for this fight. It's gonna be a messy brawl and I think it'll be purely down to whoever is tougher, and I got Gaethje for that. If Johnson can't put away Gaethje then I see even less of a chance that Eddie can.

Any polls for this thread no?

Zero-Cool

Useful.Idiot wrote: »

Any polls for this thread no?

Ah shyteballs, I forgot the poll and can no longer edit the op. Shame shame shaaaame

Overeem is going to beat NGannou surely? I know NGannou has a solid punch, incredible punch but I just dont see him landing on OVereem. Overeem is just to experienced for him I reckon.

Whelo79

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Overeem is going to beat NGannou surely? I know NGannou has a solid punch, incredible punch but I just dont see him landing on OVereem. Overeem is just to experienced for him I reckon.

Overeem gets tagged every fight and his jaw is like glass. I see Overeem being hesitant to engage for fear of getting tagged but NGannou will connect early and it's lights out.

mailburner

ngannou is the real deal imo, overeem won't be engaging too much and if ngannou comes forward it'll be lights out for overeem

eddie justin for me is the hardest fight to call, put a gun to my head and I'll say eddie on pts if it goes the distance, justin gets hit far too much, he's great to
watch but he's a walking punchbag.

Gamebred

mailburner wrote: »

he's a walking punchbag.

And Eddie isnt? he gets dropped fight.. I'd trust Justins chin more tbh.

mailburner

Gamebred wrote: »

And Eddie isnt? he gets dropped fight.. I'd trust Justins chin more tbh.

so would I but justin will probably get hit a lot more and apart from the conor ko eddie's only been knocked out once since 2003.
I think eddie can win this if he doesn't get involved in a brawl which probably won't be easy.

Gamebred

mailburner wrote: »

so would I but justin will probably get hit a lot more and apart from the conor ko eddie's only been knocked out once since 2003.
I think eddie can win this if he doesn't get involved in a brawl which probably won't be easy.

He wont out wrestle Justin if thats his plan, Gaetjhe has excellent wrassling just doesn't bother using it, my expectations are so high for this fight to be a war I sense im gonna be let down for some reason.

mailburner

Gamebred wrote: »

He wont out wrestle Justin if thats his plan, Gaetjhe has excellent wrassling just doesn't bother using it, my expectations are so high for this fight to be a war I sense im gonna be let down for some reason.

justin ko round three or eddie pts would be my guess (12s+4s)

Mellor

Joe Musashi wrote: »

Rematch for the belt is uninteresting to me.

I felt as much, until I was the countdown/embedded videos. It's raised lots of interesting points for me.

Useful.Idiot wrote: »

You could literally say this exact same thing about Eddie. He's saying in interviews that he doesn't give a f*ck about game-plan for this fight. It's gonna be a messy brawl and I think it'll be purely down to whoever is tougher, and I got Gaethje for that. If Johnson can't put away Gaethje then I see even less of a chance that Eddie can.

Any polls for this thread no?

John isn't a power puncher and he had Gaethje on jelly legs.

D.Q

Eddie and overeem double is about 7/1.

Could be a good bet. Gaethje (?) and Ngannou are arguably making a big step up in competition.

D.Q

Add Aldo into that and it's up to 25/1.

I fear father time has come for José though.

fermanagh_man

Cejudo vs Pettis I reckon is FOTN

The obvious choice is Eddie vs Justin or Overeem vs Francis but Cejudo vs Pettis is a very interesting match up

EagererBeaver

fermanagh_man wrote: »

Cejudo vs Pettis I reckon is FOTN

The obvious choice is Eddie vs Justin or Overeem vs Francis but Cejudo vs Pettis is a very interesting match up

I think Cejudo will mail him. His striking has come on massively but I think he'll be going back to the wrestling for this one.

ianob7

I like the Felder Vs olivera fight to be honest

Sweet Science

D.Q wrote: »

Eddie and overeem double is about 7/1.

Could be a good bet. Gaethje (?) and Ngannou are arguably making a big step up in competition.

That is very appealing

Autecher

Emotional Aldo needs towel to make weight. Unemotional Holloway needs towel (and Justin Gaethje!) also.

maximoose

Both of them looking pretty terrible there

Autecher

Yeah but it's their own doing. I feel lightweight would be a perfect weight class for Max and I think he will move up in the next 2 years or so.

Frank Bullitt

Jesus Christ, the both of them look like skeletons with wax thrown over them.

EagererBeaver

Holloway is only just about to turn 26 too. That weight is only going to get harder to cut add he gets older.

Lukker-

Holloway was a LW before he joined the UFC too. He was much bigger than too

Gamb!t

Wheres the poll ?

Autecher

Magana-Cooper are headlining the fight pass prelims. I can only assume that's because Magana got a bit of exposure when Cyborg punched her, no such thing as bad publicity I guess...

Aldo gets it done tonight, I just have a feeling.

Zero-Cool

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Aldo gets it done tonight, I just have a feeling.

Max might get over confident and Aldo could play it a bit safer, could very well pull out off, hopefully not though.

ricero

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Max might get over confident and Aldo could play it a bit safer, could very well pull out off, hopefully not though.

Max doesnt seem like that kind of character to me but who knows. I wasnt mad for this rematch at all when it was a announced a couple of weeks ago but now i cant wait.

Icelandicseige

Have a feeling aldo will win tonight by tko. Think Holloway will be a little to relaxed. Hope I'm wrong as would love to see McGregor vs Holloway again. And if loses that will never happen. If he wins why not Hollaway vs Mc gregor. Winner takes both belts.?? That would surely get the 100mil man interested.
I'm going with
Aldo
Ngannou
Gaethje

Whelo79

I think we might see a slightly different Aldo. With the short camp I see him blasting leg kicks and going for the takedown and using his bjj.

I don't think he will want to stand and trade with Max for long at all.

Autecher

Whelo79 wrote: »

I think we might see a slightly different Aldo. With the short camp I see him blasting leg kicks and going for the takedown and using his bjj.

I don't think he will want to stand and trade with Max for long at all.

His coaches are saying that he has no leg injury this time and his game plan will be leg kicks & Muay Thai which would be interesting to see, he was connecting with punches in the first fight before he got tired so if he mixes it up then it could make for a cracking fight!

Call Me Jimmy

It must have been true that Aldo's leg was injured the last time? Was watching the Hardy analysis and I didn't remember that Aldo threw no leg kicks, his bread and butter. What yez think, surely could make a difference or is that just Hardy hyping it? Last time it looked pretty pedestrian for Holloway

EagererBeaver

Pedestrian? He lost the first two rounds and got hurt to boot.

Zero-Cool

I love it.

https://twitter.com/MMAFighting/status/937033660565524480

Andrew76

Hopefully Eddie gets stopped early - not looking forward to listening to his missus screaming for 3 rounds!! :pac:

Icelandicseige

Eddie looked alot bigger and healthier than gaethje at the ceremonial weigh ins.

VW 1

Rogan made an interesting point on Reem on his latest mma podcast, been ko'd 13 times in his career now. Be interesting to see if ngannou will be able to land his power with the step up in level.

Hoping for max, fran, gaethje.

Zero-Cool

I like Eddie but really hope Justin wins and in big fashion. He said he doesn't care about Conor and wants to fight Tony for the belt, right attitude to have imo, would make things very interesting at LW.

Kirby

Andrew76 wrote: »

Hopefully Eddie gets stopped early - not looking forward to listening to his missus screaming for 3 rounds!! :pac:

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The Banshee cometh.....

Zero-Cool

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I like Eddie but really hope Justin wins and in big fashion. He said he doesn't care about Conor and wants to fight Tony for the belt, right attitude to have imo, would make things very interesting at LW.

I think that is bad though imo, either Conor is the champion or he is not. Tony should not be forced to fecking defend his interm belt, Vacate or Defend McNuggets

pastorbarrett

Max seems to have a great chin. I think it'd see him through an unlikely off night and he'd get the job done anyway.

Eddie certainly does look in great shape though I bet on a KO from Gathje.

Don't know what to expect at HW - Francis is a specimen with power, Overeem a wily vet but chinny, or rather perhaps has taken too many smacks at this point. Worth noting he avoided Hunts power, but Hunt doesn't have a nearly 84 inch reach. Jaysus.

pastorbarrett

pastorbarrett wrote: »

Max seems to have a great chin. I think it'd see him through an unlikely off night and he'd get the job done anyway.

Eddie certainly does look in great shape though I bet on a KO from Gathje.

Don't know what to expect at HW - Francis is a specimen with power, Overeem a wily vet but chinny, or rather perhaps has taken too many smacks at this point. Worth noting he avoided Hunts power, but Hunt doesn't have a nearly 84 inch reach. Jaysus.

I think body kicks will stop NGannou, no evidence behind that but its just a hunch.

Dtp1979

Kirby wrote: »

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The Banshee cometh.....

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Zero-Cool

Well kinda hoped that if Justin wins and looks for a title shot and of Conor has no plans for a fight, they should just strip him. I'm a huge Conor fan but the LW title picture is stacked atm, doesn't deserve to be held up.

Hoping for Aldo/Reem/Gaethje wins

What time is Mangana fighting out? That is the chick that Cyborg bully beat down? :P