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Ibrahim Halawa radio interview.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Before the round about ensues can people post transcripts or other proof on what he said about his support or not of Sharia law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Stheno wrote: »
    His spoken English is very poor for someone who grew up here his grammar especially

    I'm no fan of the lad, but a quick run through a number of Irish peoples facebook pages and you'd never think they were raised going by the shocking language and grammar skills.

    Exactly, there's one particular poster on here who doesn't know the correct spelling of Muslim/Moslem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Anastasia_


    I think his reaction to Neil's questions (i.e. becoming enraged) speaks volumes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Exactly, there's one particular poster on here who doesn't know the correct spelling of Muslim/Moslem

    Actually both are correct Moslem / Muslim

    It's exactly the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,285 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Listening to this now and Ibrahim starts off with the same angle he did on the Late Late - all designed to gain sympathy from the audience and stress the "I'm just a normal guy like you" narrative.

    Neil reels him in and then starts to unravel it all (the research done is very self-evident), at which point both of them start to lose the plot. Agree that the sister (who if you listen during the introduction Neil says wasn't expected) was there to try and control the interview and do damage control when it got "out of hand". Then they try to infer that the interviewer is an Islamophobe/racist etc for asking questions they didn't like.

    I'm no more convinced of the tale than I was after the LL (or indeed before it).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,876 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Anastasia_ wrote: »
    I think his reaction to Neil's questions (i.e. becoming enraged) speaks volumes.

    He was totally unprepared for it. He's too used to the cotton wool backslapping from the likes of Zappone, O'Gorman and associated media. A little research on his part would have told him he wasn't going to get an easy ride.


  • Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ibrahim got a lot of support from the combined irish left.

    Im curious how much the family will return that support now he is home.

    Will they for example be at pride next year?


  • Posts: 3,226 [Deleted User]


    That denigrated into a car crash for the Halawa's

    Neil is a clever one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    road_high wrote: »
    In fairness to Neil Pender he’s been on this story for a while now, asking the real questions beyond the cosy love in that has been portrayed across much of the media.

    He may have been 'on this story for a while now', but it didn't stop him from coming out with a lot of nonsense.
    "I'm talking about the protest that you were supporting. This protest under this president burned Christian churches..."


  • Posts: 4,549 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why is he still going around doing interviews anyway?

    I want this family to go away, live a quiet life and if I never hear about them again, GREAT.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,876 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Ibrahim got a lot of support from the combined irish left.

    Im curious how much the family will return that support now he is home.

    Will they for example be at pride next year?

    He was probed extensively on gay marriage...he stopped short of saying he actively disapproved. Said the general "I've gay friends" etc.
    Of course he's entitled to his views but at least be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Good interview, though some weird exchanges like:

    Halawa: I was wearing a headband, it's not a crime.
    Interviewer: An ISIS band it looked like to me.
    Halawa: It was a Palestinian headband.
    Interviewer: Yeah, well this is what the optics look like.

    Isn't the interviewer a journalist, and are journalists not supposed to research (which he certainly appears to have done so on much of this interview) and not jump to sensationalist conclusion like 'an ISIS band'?

    Either way, some interesting bits there and good to see some tougher questions asked, but I'm really not getting how infatuated some have been with this story - this guy might even have the most threads about him on AH over the last few months/years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,987 ✭✭✭JohnMc1


    road_high wrote: »
    Did I say he wrote it? But it’s clear he supports it from that interview which is very telling.

    Most Muslims in foreign Countries want Sharia implemented. Over 75% of them in Britain,Germany,etc want it. I'm sure we'd get a very similar number if polled the Muslims here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,876 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Why is he still going around doing interviews anyway?

    I want this family to go away, live a quiet life and if I never hear about them again, GREAT.

    Not sure to be honest they keep digging holes for themselves in every one.


  • Posts: 3,226 [Deleted User]


    road_high wrote: »
    He was probed extensively on gay marriage...he stopped short of saying he actively disapproved. Said the general "I've gay friends" etc.
    Of course he's entitled to his views but at least be honest.

    Do we really expect him to be honest (assuming his true position is anti-gay), given the extent of support from the left he got


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 739 ✭✭✭Dev84


    Ibrahim owes no answers to anyone in this country. He was found innocent of wrong doing by one of the most corrupt judiciary systems in the world. He was young at the time and possibly made some poor choices and was easily led.

    We live in a racist little enclave and this episode shows it.

    Oh and thays Neil penderville of Airplane fame.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Good interview, though some weird exchanges like:

    Halawa: I was wearing a headband, it's not a crime.
    Interviewer: An ISIS band it looked like to me.
    Halawa: It was a Palestinian headband.
    Interviewer: Yeah, well this is what the optics look like.

    Isn't the interviewer a journalist, and are journalists not supposed to research (which he certainly appears to have done so on much of this interview) and not jump to sensationalist conclusion like 'an ISIS band'?

    Either way, some interesting bits there and good to see some tougher questions asked, but I'm really not getting how infatuated some have been with this story - this guy might even have the most threads about him on AH over the last few months/years.

    How did he know what an ISIS band looks like?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,876 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Do we really expect him to be honest (assuming his true position is anti-gay), given the extent of support from the left he got

    Yes. He should spell out his views if he has them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    Enjoyed listening to the discomfort. Good interviewer.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,537 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    JohnMc1 wrote: »
    Most Muslims in foreign Countries want Sharia implemented. Over 75% of them in Britain,Germany,etc want it. I'm sure we'd get a very similar number if polled the Muslims here.

    wanting it and getting it are 2 different things. there is no chance of sharia law happening in ireland.
    Dev84 wrote: »
    Oh and thays Neil penderville of Airplane fame.....

    it is indeed.

    I'm very highly educated. I know words, i have the best words, nobody has better words then me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,371 ✭✭✭Phoebas


    Ipso wrote: »
    Before the round about ensues can people post transcripts or other proof on what he said about his support or not of Sharia law.

    In this interview all he said about support for Sharia was that Sharia told him that he should pray 5 times a day and fast for Ramadan.

    Neil Prendeville tried his best to link Halawa with extreme views, but wasn't successful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,876 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Dev84 wrote: »
    Ibrahim owes no answers to anyone in this country. He was found innocent of wrong doing by one of the most corrupt judiciary systems in the world. He was young at the time and possibly made some poor choices and was easily led.

    We live in a racist little enclave and this episode shows it.

    Oh and thays Neil penderville of Airplane fame.....

    Horseh1te. We are entitled to answers- this turnip has cost the state a small fortune in diplomacy, we are perfectly entitled to seek the truth. If you want to label that as racism then off ya go, label label label to your hearts content. It means nothing to me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,177 ✭✭✭PeterParker957


    I see the pro-Halawa crowd show up to point out Neil Prendeville once gave himself a treat on a plane. Big deal. Does it negate his research and interview technique ???


  • Posts: 3,226 [Deleted User]


    road_high wrote: »
    Yes. He should spell out his views if he has them.

    Ah here. I'm no IH fan but if every public figure was to spill his true inner views we would have chaos. We don't own him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,876 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Phoebas wrote: »
    In this interview all he said about support for Sharia was that Sharia told him that he should pray 5 times a day and fast for Ramadan.

    Neil Prendeville tried his best to link Halawa with extreme views, but wasn't successful.

    He asked him. Hardly the same as linking them!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    I see the pro-Halawa crowd show up to point out Neil Prendeville once gave himself a treat on a plane. Big deal. Does it negate his research and interview technique ???

    No, but I'd like to hear what he considers an ISIS head band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,876 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Ah here. I'm no IH fan but if every public figure was to spill his true inner views we would have chaos. We don't own him

    Is he forced to go on air?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,260 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    For a fella who was banging on about how he wanted his privacy and return to a being a nobody in the street he seems to be turning into a bit of a media whore.


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