Jack Hackett's bangernomic breakout thread

jack hackett

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a4-2005-tdi-driving-100-per-cet/16893847

Any mechanic around the finglas area who could take a look at this for me? i would obviously compensate you for your time


Mod: thread moved out from regular Bangernomics as it was clogging up the regular thread.
If you have a question about a particular car feel free to start a separate thread.

bazz26

I wouldn't bother with buying from dealers in that price range as they add no value to the car. Any warranty you get from a dealer on a car in that price range will not be worth very much as there is no profit in it for the dealer. Treat anything from a dealer in that price range as a private sale.

jack hackett

bazz26 wrote: »

I wouldn't bother with buying from dealers in that price range as they add no value to the car. Any warranty you get from a dealer on a car in that price range will not be worth very much as there is no profit in it for the dealer. Treat anything from a dealer in that price range as a private sale.

I called the guy selling the audi and he said there is no warranty at that price and said the only issue with the car is that the front windows dont work due to something that costs about 50 quid to install second hand, not sure what he meant, he said the engine in the 1.9 are fantastic but the 2.0 give trouble

bazz26

Realistically you were never going to get a warranty on a €1500 car from a dealer.

jack hackett

bazz26 wrote: »

Realistically you were never going to get a warranty on a €1500 car from a dealer.

true, any idea what the issue would be on the car with the windows not working? the dealer told me its some motor or something which can be replaced for about 40 quid....

are the a4 1.9 diesel a reliable car in general?

Esel

jack hackett wrote: »

true, any idea what the issue would be on the car with the windows not working? the dealer told me its some motor or something which can be replaced for about 40 quid....

are the a4 1.9 diesel a reliable car in general?

Why hasn't the dealer fixed the windows when the cost is as low as he says?

jack hackett

Esel wrote: »

Why hasn't the dealer fixed the windows when the cost is as low as he says?

very good question

unkel

jack hackett wrote: »

true, any idea what the issue would be on the car with the windows not working? the dealer told me its some motor or something which can be replaced for about 40 quid....

The issue is that the car will fail the NCT with a drivers window that doesn't work. And there's only 6 months NCT left. And if it was only 40 to fix it, the dealer could have done that by now. Chances are it will cost more. A lot more. I'd walk away.

LPG is indeed another option, depending on how conveniently you can fill up on your commute. Not that many LPG stations around...

everlast75

Maybe Jack should have a word with copeyhagen there

jack hackett

unkel wrote: »

The issue is that the car will fail the NCT with a drivers window that doesn't work. And there's only 6 months NCT left. And if it was only 40 to fix it, the dealer could have done that by now. Chances are it will cost more. A lot more. I'd walk away.

LPG is indeed another option, depending on how conveniently you can fill up on your commute. Not that many LPG stations around...

Thanks I think I will walk away... good advice

joujoujou

Offer them 40 more for that car with fixed motor.

unkel

joujoujou wrote: »

Offer them 40 more for that car with fixed motor.

Haha. His answer will confirm that us telling you to walk away was good advice. Go on, indulge us, jack Hackett, give him a call and let us know what he said

bazz26

The problem with buying cheap cars from dealers is that any problems with the car are generally not fixed as the dealer doesn't want to spend any money, time or effort on the car. They take them as trade-ins or cast offs and usually want to sell them on as is while making a small profit on them.

joujoujou

Yes, but that's simple deal - they claim fix would cost the likes of 40 notes, so OP offers to give 40 extra for fix. :cool:

jack hackett

unkel wrote: »

Haha. His answer will confirm that us telling you to walk away was good advice. Go on, indulge us, jack Hackett, give him a call and let us know what he said

I went down to him for the craic and he said its a comfort line box or something to that effect which affects the windows, central locking etc... i asked if he would do it for 40 quid and he said if he was to fix it he would then sell the car for 1900 euro!! he said he has about 6 cars he needs to just get rid of as he hasnt the space....

joujoujou

jack hackett wrote: »

[...] i asked if he would do it for 40 quid and he said if he was to fix it he would then sell the car for 1900 euro!! [...]

Walk away, never go back.

grogi

jack hackett wrote: »

I went down to him for the craic and he said its a comfort line box or something to that effect which affects the windows, central locking etc... i asked if he would do it for 40 quid and he said if he was to fix it he would then sell the car for 1900 euro!! he said he has about 6 cars he needs to just get rid of as he hasnt the space....

What an idiot - he is throwing the money out through the window... Fix for €40, sell for hundreds more - I wish my life was that easy...

Kenny Logins

jack hackett wrote: »

I called the guy selling the audi and he said there is no warranty at that price and said the only issue with the car is that the front windows dont work due to something that costs about 50 quid to install second hand, not sure what he meant, he said the engine in the 1.9 are fantastic but the 2.0 give trouble

CCM - comfort control module? You could probably pick one up cheap enough, but with no guarantee that will fix it.

jack hackett

Kenny Logins wrote: »

CCM - comfort control module? You could probably pick one up cheap enough, but with no guarantee that will fix it.

that must be it, thanks for the advice, i will keep away from this one

jack hackett

Any mechanic available around liffey valley tomorrow to view a car? compensation offered for time given.

bear1

jack hackett wrote: »

Any mechanic available around liffey valley tomorrow to view a car? compensation offered for time given.

Is this for the Lexus?

This one:
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-is-reliable-diesel-lexus-all-extras-comfort/17014033

jack hackett

bear1 wrote: »

Is this for the Lexus?

This one:
https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-is-reliable-diesel-lexus-all-extras-comfort/17014033

yes, any thoughts?

punisher5112

jack hackett wrote: »

yes, any thoughts?

You have been warned.

A petrol car would be more economical then that and cheaper tax.

punisher5112

That 2002 TT is gone....

Nekarsulm

I see that Audi comes complete with a Bose Surround sound system. (!)
Who was it on here had a serious hard-on for his cars sound system?
Think it was in a Lexus.

jack hackett

punisher5112 wrote: »

You have been warned.

A petrol car would be more economical then that and cheaper tax.

i know but i'm not so worried about the tax once it would be reliable

bear1

jack hackett wrote: »

i know but i'm not so worried about the tax once it would be reliable

I think you might have misunderstood the warnings people were giving.
But fair enough, don't say you haven't been warned.
I think at that price and with that engine I wouldn't bother with a mechanic.
Just check if the coolant isn't gunked up, the oil filler cap is not a milky colour and it's not smokey.

Nekarsulm

Go for another one of these, Jack?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-avensis-2-0-diesel-d4d/16867212

You'll have your old one for parts .....

jack hackett

Nekarsulm wrote: »

Go for another one of these, Jack?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-avensis-2-0-diesel-d4d/16867212

You'll have your old one for parts .....

Thanks! there is a real good option and as you say il have the old one for parts... off hand would this look like a good buy?

jack hackett

bear1 wrote: »

I think you might have misunderstood the warnings people were giving.
But fair enough, don't say you haven't been warned.
I think at that price and with that engine I wouldn't bother with a mechanic.
Just check if the coolant isn't gunked up, the oil filler cap is not a milky colour and it's not smokey.

thanks for the advice on what to check for, perhaps i have misread the warnings, when you say with that engine, is that a good or bad thing?!

bazz26

As I said previously your really feeding off the bottom of the market when looking at cars from dealers in that price range. Buying a cheap Lexus diesel which has a terrible reputation for reliability from any dealer who will not want to know you after you buy it is a disaster waiting to happen imo.

bear1

jack hackett wrote: »

thanks for the advice on what to check for, perhaps i have misread the warnings, when you say with that engine, is that a good or bad thing?!

Bad, it's just not a good engine. Apart from the fact it suffers serious engine problems it has terrible gearing.
If it has to be a Lexus and you don't mind the tax I'd go for anything else.
But your budget is obviously around the 2k mark so I'd simply stick to something proven if you want the best deal.

If it were me and I'd want the best bang for buck under a certain amount then I'd look here:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s60-d5-diesel-2005-/16748180

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s60-2006-d5-nct-test-03-18-1250/16887687

Or even more niceness

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-volvo-s80-d5-automatic-09-18nct-luxury-car-/16861951

CrankyHaus

jack hackett wrote: »

yes, any thoughts?

No expert but I had one before.

Fuel consumption was bad, I think around 8.7l/100km with mixed urban/motorway driving.

Gearbox was terrible, very sluggish until turbo kicked in to deliver too much power in most situations, 6th gear could only be used from about 140 km/h.

Reliability was poor: DPF, injectors, power steering all required work (c. €1.5 - 2k total). A belt went without warning a week after servicing too.

Engine is 2.2L, not 2.1 L as stated in ad, but tax bracket is 2.3 L. This is around €1,000/annum.

Visibility out of vehicle wasn't great.
Rear seat space wasn't great.
Boot leaked slightly (Is this a thing with Toyota derived saloons of that era? heard of it with Avensis).
Ride was a bit firm over seatbumps and potholes with 17" wheels.
Cabin ergonomics weren't great, eg nowehere comfortable to rest arms on long drives.
Clutch pedal required significant force to keep depressed, more than any other car I've driven, would become very fatiguing and unfortable on long drives with traffic.

Car was fun to drive and handled well on open road at speeds above 60 km/h when everything was running alright.
Seat Heating was nice.
Seat cooling was a great feature for long drives at any time of the year, would recommend it for every car.
Keyless entry was convenient.
Sound system was good.
Looks were good and have aged well IMO (new IS doesn't diverge much from them).

I wouldn't advise anyone to buy one tbh.
I'm pretty sure that one you linked does not have "ALL Extras" as advertised. Seems to be half leather and no seat cooling or heating for a start. Taken along with the false description of 2.1 L engine size I'd take a sceptical view of the sellers claims.

Nekarsulm

jack hackett wrote: »

Thanks! there is a real good option and as you say il have the old one for parts... off hand would this look like a good buy?

You'd have to give it a good looking over, but if its clean inside and running nicely, I'd be offering them 1300 for it. If there is a bit of dealer service history, or even non dealer history, that'd be a bonus.

Try for 1300 anyway, thatll get you 6 months tax and you're still at the 1666 the seller is looking.

jack hackett

bazz26 wrote: »

As I said previously your really feeding off the bottom of the market when looking at cars from dealers in that price range. Buying a cheap Lexus diesel which has a terrible reputation for reliability from any dealer who will not want to know you after you buy it is a disaster waiting to happen imo.

thanks advice heeded

AhHaor

bear1 wrote: »

Bad, it's just not a good engine. Apart from the fact it suffers serious engine problems it has terrible gearing.
If it has to be a Lexus and you don't mind the tax I'd go for anything else.
But your budget is obviously around the 2k mark so I'd simply stick to something proven if you want the best deal.

If it were me and I'd want the best bang for buck under a certain amount then I'd look here:

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s60-d5-diesel-2005-/16748180

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/volvo-s60-2006-d5-nct-test-03-18-1250/16887687

Or even more niceness

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-volvo-s80-d5-automatic-09-18nct-luxury-car-/16861951

Do those volvo diesel engines go forever? There's huge milage on them! Are they a ford build?

punisher5112

AhHaor wrote: »

Do those volvo diesel engines go forever? There's huge milage on them! Are they a ford build?

Like with anything if it got correct oil and at proper intervals it should be bullet proof.

Great power out of those volvos

jack hackett

Any views on these guys?

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/toyota-avensis-t4-d4d-new-nct-high-spec/16987879

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-toyota-avensis-2-0-d-4d-leather-top-spec/15916807

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/audi-a4-1-9-tdi-115bhp-nct/17116333

https://www.donedeal.ie/adview/view/17054348

bear1

If take a look at the red avensis

Sexual Chocolate

The first Avensis you linked is the same 2.2 thats in the Lexus I believe.

minzabud

I have an is220d and agree with all the points raised above and would advise to avoid, mine has 370k and i thought i would be scrapping it until it sailed the NCT, im not doing the mileage anymore but average about 38mpg so may aswel drive a petrol car.

bear1

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

The first Avensis you linked is the same 2.2 thats in the Lexus I believe.

There are 2 versions for the avensis, the 150 and the 177.
The 150 is the one to go for if you want the 2.2. Can't open the link but I'm guessing it's the 177?

bazz26

I'd just avoid a 2.2 litre Avensis diesel altogether, even the lower 150bhp version is not great and just not worth the extra motor tax over a 2.0 litre in my view.

GypsyByName

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/lexus-is250-nct-11-18/17250673

bear1

bazz26 wrote: »

I'd just avoid a 2.2 litre Avensis diesel altogether, even the lower 150bhp version is not great and just not worth the extra motor tax over a 2.0 litre in my view.

I meant more that if the op desperately wants that engine then aim for the 150.
Personally that 250 would be a good one or as I said earlier I'd go for a 5 pot Volvo.