Model S owners?

BobbyBingo

In the (very) fortunate position of about to order a new Model S. If any existing Model S owners have a referral code, then please let me know by tomorrow and I'll use it for you . As you know this will qualify you for a wall charger / wheels etc depending on the number of referrals you've already accumulated.

https://www.tesla.com/en_IE/support/referral-program

Pretty weird ordering a car the same way you'd order an iPad!

B

thierry14

Please say P100D?

BobbyBingo

Sadly no. 75D. Had a spin in the Model X, P100D - Holy God!

Slaanesh

BobbyBingo wrote: »

Sadly no. 75D. Had a spin in the Model X, P100D - Holy God!

Congratulations. What options did you choose?

Gumbo

BobbyBingo wrote: »

Sadly no. 75D. Had a spin in the Model X, P100D - Holy God!

Nothing to be sad about

If you don’t get any from here have a google around the uk forums etc someone will be out here with one.

BobbyBingo

Thanks Lads - yeah I can get codes on the web - there is no shortage of yanks peddling their codes on the tesla club forum! Just wanted to look after someone local if I could to be honest.

In terms of options, cream leather, light headliner, glass roof (not sunroof), enhanced auto pilot, 19" slipstreams, carbon inserts. Cannot wait TBH.

B

thierry14

BobbyBingo wrote: »

Thanks Lads - yeah I can get codes on the web - there is no shortage of yanks peddling their codes on the tesla club forum! Just wanted to look after someone local if I could to be honest.

In terms of options, cream leather, light headliner, glass roof (not sunroof), enhanced auto pilot, 19" slipstreams, carbon inserts. Cannot wait TBH.

B

Nice

Did you do a trade in, if you don't mind me asking?

BobbyBingo

thierry14 wrote: »

Nice

Did you do a trade in, if you don't mind me asking?

Yes - sort of(!). They took pics of the car then offered it out to the trade - got a reasonable price - not as good as a traditional garage and a bit less than I was hoping but overall, happy enough.

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unkel

Bet you are excited to get it - best of luck!

Clever choice of car by any means. The least depreciating car in the market, so it's not so bad to buy new. Model S is nearly the best selling EV in the country. You doing it (partly) because of the BIK?

If you order it say Monday, when do you expect to take delivery?

BobbyBingo

unkel wrote: »

Bet you are excited to get it - best of luck!

Clever choice of car by any means. The least depreciating car in the market, so it's not so bad to buy new. Model S is nearly the best selling EV in the country. You doing it (partly) because of the BIK?

If you order it say Monday, when do you expect to take delivery?

Partly ? Quite honestly, completely because of BIK. Paying 35% on a 55k car right now on BIK - when I get the Model S, it'll be 0% on a 100k car..

Hope to have it mid Feb.

In terms of excitement level, genuinely pinching myself that I'm getting one - excited beyond belief. Don't honestly know how I'll last till Feb. I'm all over the Tesla forums like a rash now and I don't even own one yet!

Cheers
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unkel

Brilliant! Make sure you keep your poor friends on boards.ie updated too

I'm a big fan of the 0% BIK on all EVs scheme. Look what it did for Tesla sales in the Netherlands and Norway. The Teslas literally are all over the place and their presence makes the common man wonder about EVs, realising they are the only way forward and interested in getting on the ladder.

unkel

And for the craic, let me guess, the 55k car is a BMW 520d? Prime target market for Tesla. Model S (and in a few years time Model 3) will be the company car of choice for many executives. BMW can still catch up but they'll have to be quick.

BobbyBingo

520d - Nope! Not even close!

Rod Fantana

Congrats on your new order BobbyB. I'm a long time lurker on this forum and placed an order for a Model X the day after the BIK announcement. No way could I justify a €120k car but the BIK deal makes it less than half price. Delivery expected in February. I'd be delighted if you could use my referral code "brian7610".

Rod

Sabre Man

http://ts.la/inge2494

BobbyBingo

Sabre Man wrote: »

http://ts.la/inge2494

Is this you ?

Sabre Man

BobbyBingo wrote: »

Is this you ?

Yes, I took delivery of a Model S 75 in September.

BobbyBingo

Rod Fantana wrote: »

Congrats on your new order BobbyB. I'm a long time lurker on this forum and placed an order for a Model X the day after the BIK announcement. No way could I justify a €120k car but the BIK deal makes it less than half price. Delivery expected in February. I'd be delighted if you could use my referral code "brian7610".

Rod

Rod - prepare to be delighted so. I've just pressed the button that says 'Place Order' and used your referral code.

(SabreMan - sorry - Rod Fantana's post was 23mins before yours)

B.

Rod Fantana

Thanks a bunch BB, much appreciated. That'll pay for a wall charger in my office car park. I live in a terraced house with no off street parking so I'll be relying on charging at work.

Rod

unkel

Welcome to boards, Brian

There was an allowance / subsidy announced in the budget for anyone buying an EV (new or second hand) in 2018 for installing a charger. You will be entitled to it, so make sure you claim it.

Sabre Man

BobbyBingo wrote: »

(SabreMan - sorry - Rod Fantana's post was 23mins before yours)
B.

No problem. Let us know if you've got any questions.

Rod Fantana

unkel wrote: »

Welcome to boards, Brian

There was an allowance / subsidy announced in the budget for anyone buying an EV (new or second hand) in 2018 for installing a charger. You will be entitled to it, so make sure you claim it.

Thanks Unkel (nice detective work by the way!). Yes, I'll definitely claim the charger allowance / subsidy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the exact details have been announced yet. I can always use BobbyBingo's referral to get a credit from Tesla for other stuff if I'm better off having the charger supplied/installed by the government scheme.

Rod

KCross

Rod Fantana wrote: »

Thanks Unkel (nice detective work by the way!). Yes, I'll definitely claim the charger allowance / subsidy. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the exact details have been announced yet. I can always use BobbyBingo's referral to get a credit from Tesla for other stuff if I'm better off having the charger supplied/installed by the government scheme.

Rod

I'd be more inclined to take the Tesla Wallbox.
Obviously take the grant as well but maybe install it somewhere else that you might use it (maybe parents house etc)?

The Tesla wallbox has the ability to be daisy chained to another Tesla Wallbox and in the future you might decide to have two EV's in the house and having one wallbox already will make it easier for you to manage the load of two EV's charging at the same time.

Two EV's charging at 7kW simultaneously will exceed your normal house current limit and likely blow the fuse. Having two Tesla wallboxes will allow you to load share the current between the two cars ensuring you have two fully charged cars in the morning without blowing the fuse. Most charge points don't have this capability.


EDIT: I just realised you have no off street parking so its irrelevant to you!

I hope you plan on staying with your employer for a long time because no work charging and no off street parking will be a PITA!

Rod Fantana

KCross wrote: »

EDIT: I just realised you have no off street parking so its irrelevant to you!

I hope you plan on staying with your employer for a long time because no work charging and no off street parking will be a PITA!

I've been working here for 19 years and planning to hang around for at least the next 3 to 5 so I reckon I'll be ok. Even without work charging I could probably manage - there is a Dart station charger 10 minutes walk away so I could charge the car overnight there once a week.

macnab

With 22kw onboard chargers (formally known as duel chargers) a standard on street (22kw) charger will give my Tesla 103km per hour.

Sabre Man

macnab wrote: »

With 22kw onboard chargers (formally known as duel chargers) a standard on street (22kw) charger will give my Tesla 103km per hour.

That's very good. How much do you get from slow chargers?

I've only used a public fast charger once and got only 50 km/h. I haven't tried using a slow charger yet.

macnab

Sabre Man wrote: »

That's very good. How much do you get from slow chargers?

I've only used a public fast charger once and got only 50 km/h. I haven't tried using a slow charger yet.

Thats 103km per hour on a slow charger. Most of them are capable of delivering up to 22kw. The restriction is with the cars. My Nissan Leaf could only take 3.3kw per hour from a 22kw SCP. A Tesla with a single charger can only take 11kw which would equate to 50km per hour.

Orebro

I’m bracing to get slated for what I’m about to say, but anyway...

First of all, congrats folks on your new Model S - great choice! To be clear - this is not an attack on you, I would do the exact same thing given the opportunity. This is more a comment on the budget measures.

I made the point before that this BIK thing is only going to benefit the wealthy, and so it is transpiring going by this thread. I just cannot see the benefit of getting people into €100k cars at the expense of the taxpayer. Yes, they will be more visible on the road etc but really, it’s Mary and Johnny down the road driving an Ioniq, or Tim next door in his Leaf is what gets people talking about them - not rich dude in his Tesla. I think the incentives should be the reserve of modest cars for the masses, not big luxury 7 series/ Range Rover equivalents. If the majority move then this class of car will move naturally anyway.

Surely we have our priorities wrong here?

(Red alert, brace for impact!)

Sabre Man

Private purchase. No BIK for me unfortunately.

macnab

Orebro wrote: »

I’m bracing to get slated for what I’m about to say, but anyway...

First of all, congrats folks on your new Model S - great choice! To be clear - this is not an attack on you, I would do the exact same thing given the opportunity. This is more a comment on the budget measures.

I made the point before that this BIK thing is only going to benefit the wealthy, and so it is transpiring going by this thread. I just cannot see the benefit of getting people into €100k cars at the expense of the taxpayer. Yes, they will be more visible on the road etc but really, it’s Mary and Johnny down the road driving an Ioniq, or Tim next door in his Leaf is what gets people talking about them - not rich dude in his Tesla. I think the incentives should be the reserve of modest cars for the masses, not big luxury 7 series/ Range Rover equivalents. If the majority move then this class of car will move naturally anyway.

Surely we have our priorities wrong here?

(Red alert, brace for impact!)

I benefited indirectly as the guy I bought my Tesla off was presumably upgrading in order to maximise his BIK. I got a relatively cheap car because of that. I am not in a position to claim tax incentives and im far from rich. I do like large fast cars but I couldnt afford a new one. Thanks to the new BIK rules there will be more 2nd hand Teslas for sale in the future.

Orebro

Orebro wrote: »

I’m bracing to get slated for what I’m about to say, but anyway...

First of all, congrats folks on your new Model S - great choice! To be clear - this is not an attack on you, I would do the exact same thing given the opportunity. This is more a comment on the budget measures.

I made the point before that this BIK thing is only going to benefit the wealthy, and so it is transpiring going by this thread. I just cannot see the benefit of getting people into €100k cars at the expense of the taxpayer. Yes, they will be more visible on the road etc but really, it’s Mary and Johnny down the road driving an Ioniq, or Tim next door in his Leaf is what gets people talking about them - not rich dude in his Tesla. I think the incentives should be the reserve of modest cars for the masses, not big luxury 7 series/ Range Rover equivalents. If the majority move then this class of car will move naturally anyway.

Surely we have our priorities wrong here?

(Red alert, brace for impact!)

You keep missing the fact that that 10K subsidy might make the model s affordable to someone who otherwise would not afford one and also make it cheaper for the 2nd hand buyer.

The Idea is to get as many ICE's off the road as possible so if the grant helps then I'm all for it.

The 10K subsidy and free public charging. hasn't seen many Johnny's and Mary's going out buying electric as they're more fond of their smoking cancer mobile.

Orebro

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You keep missing the fact that that 10K subsidy might make the model s affordable to someone who otherwise would not afford one and also make it cheaper for the 2nd hand buyer.

The Idea is to get as many ICE's off the road as possible so if the grant helps then I'm all for it.

The 10K subsidy and free public charging. hasn't seen many Johnny's and Mary's going out buying electric as they're more fond of their smoking cancer mobile.

10k isn’t going to make a blind bit of difference to someone who has that kind of money to drop on a car.

I’m not missing the point, just that you refuse to see mine. The point is to get people to move to EVs but not at any cost - it has to be sustainable. Subsidising people into luxury €100k cars is not sustainable at the expense of the already under massive pressure exchequer.

The likes of Leaf and Ioniq get subsidised as they are more expensive than their ICE counterparts but this will change in the next few years. A model S and X will always cost a fortune - so should we subsidise them forever?

Sabre Man

Orebro wrote: »

10k isn’t going to make a blind bit of difference to someone who has that kind of money to drop on a car.

It does make a difference.

Many Tesla owners would never consider buying a similarly priced ICE car, myself included. My most expensive car before buying a Model S cost me less than €7000. I don't consider myself rich. I am good at saving and don't have any expensive habits or interests except for cars and technology. I regularly come across people with similar stories in the many Tesla forums I've been following for years.

It's the same story with Model 3 reservation holders. A lot of people are worried that the $7,000 California rebate will disappear.

People are buying Teslas not because they are rich but because Teslas are so far ahead of other cars in many ways.

la ultima guagua

Orebro wrote: »

..... A model S and X will always cost a fortune - ........

What makes you think this ?

A second user Model S can be got for not far off the price of a new eGolf ( or so it seems ).

Thats depreciation for you

ironmonkey

The other factor is running costs. The savings available with EV bring cars at a certain price which prospective owners would never otherwise have considered. This is obviously dependent on having the readies for an upfront investment.

Orebro

la ultima guagua wrote: »

What makes you think this ?

A second user Model S can be got for not far off the price of a new eGolf ( or so it seems ).

Thats depreciation for you

I’m talking about new cars

Orebro

ironmonkey wrote: »

The other factor is running costs. The savings available with EV bring cars at a certain price which prospective owners would never otherwise have considered. This is obviously dependent on having the readies for an upfront investment.

All true but I still don’t think the taxpayer should be subsidising people with such means. I don’t buy the “sure it means another ICE off the road” argument - the cost is simply too high for the taxpayer. Seriously - I can’t imagine how people could see a wealthy person in a Model S and be glad that some of the tax you’re paying went into their fancy car! I’d prefer to see the money sunk into roads, health, education etc etc, but that’s a whole other debate!

ironmonkey

There’ll be no point in having great health education and roads if the ice caps melt !!!

la ultima guagua

Orebro wrote: »

I’m talking about new cars

Seemed to me you were talking BIK exemption.

Does said exemption apply only to new EVs ?

Orebro

ironmonkey wrote: »

There’ll be no point in having great health education and roads if the ice caps melt !!!

Hey I'm all for saving the ice caps and the polar bears but sitting people into €100k cars ain't the way to do it. We need maximum bang for our buck along with making it sustainable.

I think we should concentrate resources on cars up to say 45k (to try in incorporate the Model 3 that everyone is waiting for) - and anything over that gets no subsidy, simply because it's not needed.

Sabre Man

Orebro wrote: »

All true but I still don’t think the taxpayer should be subsidising people with such means. I don’t buy the “sure it means another ICE off the road” argument - the cost is simply too high for the taxpayer. Seriously - I can’t imagine how people could see a wealthy person in a Model S and be glad that some of the tax you’re paying went into their fancy car! I’d prefer to see the money sunk into roads, health, education etc etc, but that’s a whole other debate!

The cost can easily be offset by increasing taxation of ICE vehicles slightly.

Health costs can similarly be offset by increasing tax on alcohol and tobacco.

Less local pollution from ICE cars will be better for everyone, especially for people with breathing issues, like asthmatics. This will help reduce health costs.

BoatMad

Orebro wrote: »

I’m bracing to get slated for what I’m about to say, but anyway...

First of all, congrats folks on your new Model S - great choice! To be clear - this is not an attack on you, I would do the exact same thing given the opportunity. This is more a comment on the budget measures.

I made the point before that this BIK thing is only going to benefit the wealthy, and so it is transpiring going by this thread. I just cannot see the benefit of getting people into €100k cars at the expense of the taxpayer. Yes, they will be more visible on the road etc but really, it’s Mary and Johnny down the road driving an Ioniq, or Tim next door in his Leaf is what gets people talking about them - not rich dude in his Tesla. I think the incentives should be the reserve of modest cars for the masses, not big luxury 7 series/ Range Rover equivalents. If the majority move then this class of car will move naturally anyway.

Surely we have our priorities wrong here?

(Red alert, brace for impact!)

I somewhat agree, I argued at the gods task force meetings that the BIK should be capped or it would become a " tesla charter " , interestingly in before Us was a delegation from tesla !!

Dept of finance was very reluctant to grant this exemption and is monitoring loss of revenue closely , don't expect this concession to remain for too long !!!

Note that BIK doesn't really affect " modest cars for the masses " the whole point of the BIK concession was to target the executive car market driver who has the financial wherewithal to change to an equivalent upmarket EV.

BoatMad

la ultima guagua wrote: »

Seemed to me you were talking BIK exemption.

Does said exemption apply only to new EVs ?

No company owned 2nd hand BEVs qualify

BoatMad

Orebro wrote: »

10k isn’t going to make a blind bit of difference to someone who has that kind of money to drop on a car.

I’m not missing the point, just that you refuse to see mine. The point is to get people to move to EVs but not at any cost - it has to be sustainable. Subsidising people into luxury €100k cars is not sustainable at the expense of the already under massive pressure exchequer.

The likes of Leaf and Ioniq get subsidised as they are more expensive than their ICE counterparts but this will change in the next few years. A model S and X will always cost a fortune - so should we subsidise them forever?

Forever
no and the dept of finance has no intention of so doing , this is a time limited concession. , expect changes as adoption increases.

However today the effect has little effect on overall budgetary arithmetic , the Dept of finance has calculated worse case 40 million in forgone revenue over three years is at stake. That's a pimple in the budget.

umbauk

Congrats Bobby on the purchase!

I have also just put a deposit down on a Model S (Jan delivery), although it's a CPO (Certified Pre-owned) in the UK, which I intend to import.

Am currently looking at charger installation and insurance. If any Tesla owners have tips on best electricians and insurance companies that would be great!

One of the installation companies Tesla recommended wanted to charge €130 just to come and give me a quote!

BobbyBingo

umbauk wrote: »

Congrats Bobby on the purchase!

I have also just put a deposit down on a Model S (Jan delivery), although it's a CPO (Certified Pre-owned) in the UK, which I intend to import.

Am currently looking at charger installation and insurance. If any Tesla owners have tips on best electricians and insurance companies that would be great!

One of the installation companies Tesla recommended wanted to charge €130 just to come and give me a quote!

Well done umbauk - you'll no doubt have it real soon then if it is a CPO. I'd be interested on piggybacking from anything you learn re the charger install. If you are going for the Tesla unit, you order it here and also source an installer too.

What spec did you go for ? Congrats!

B

umbauk

Thanks! I got tired of waiting for the Model 3 and finally convinced the wife the CPO prices in the UK are reasonable enough

Went for a 2014 85. It lacks the 4WD, but is fully loaded with options (air suspension, sub-zero package, autopilot (v1), high fidelity sound, rear-facing seats etc.) and has low mileage.

It's going to take them 6 weeks to refurbish (they do a lot of work on them) so will likely be mid-Jan before collection.

Can't wait!

ted1

Orebro wrote: »

ironmonkey wrote: »

The other factor is running costs. The savings available with EV bring cars at a certain price which prospective owners would never otherwise have considered. This is obviously dependent on having the readies for an upfront investment.

All true but I still don’t think the taxpayer should be subsidising people with such means. I don’t buy the “sure it means another ICE off the road” argument - the cost is simply too high for the taxpayer. Seriously - I can’t imagine how people could see a wealthy person in a Model S and be glad that some of the tax you’re paying went into their fancy car! I’d prefer to see the money sunk into roads, health, education etc etc, but that’s a whole other debate!

Where’s the subsidy? A subsidy is when the government contribute. In this case it’s a tax saving which without the saving would never have been realised.

What is achieved is that the number of EVs increase and promotes the uptake and so reduces the amount of carbon tax the Country pays , reduced the amount of money that is leaving the country in fossil fuels. Promotes our energy independence, etc

BobbyBingo

ted1 wrote: »

Where’s the subsidy? A subsidy is when the government contribute. In this case it’s a tax saving which without the saving would never have been realised.

What is achieved is that the number of EVs increase and promotes the uptake and so reduces the amount of carbon tax the Country pays , reduced the amount of money that is leaving the country in fossil fuels. Promotes our energy independence, etc

That bit intrigued me too. I saw the 10k being mentioned as a subsidy. Is this the BIK forgone perhaps ?

Sabre Man

I had my Tesla Wall Connector installed by Nigel Daly. His quote was a lot lower than the Tesla approved installer.

I'm insured with Allianz.

BobbyBingo

Sabre Man wrote: »

I had my Tesla Wall Connector installed by Nigel Daly. His quote was a lot lower than the Tesla approved installer.

I'm insured with Allianz.

Cheers Sabre Man - What part of the country are you based ? What sort of cost for install ?

Thanks