'Mass shooting' in church (Texas)

jaykay74

Lots of people dead it seems. Its a shame but its the way it goes in the US. They dont seem to care so much about doing anything about it (beyond offering prayers obviously).

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41880511

A gunman opened fire at a church in Texas during Sunday services, resulting in multiple reported casualties.
The attack happened at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs in Wilson County.
Local ABC affiliate KSAT 12 reported the gunman entered the church at around 11:30 local time and began shooting.
Police told the outlet there were "multiple victims" and the gunman had been killed in the aftermath. The number of casualties is not yet clear

https://twitter.com/mj_lee/status/927263954623238151

Timberrrrrrrr

Reports of a mass shooting at a church in Texas with reports of 27 deaths.

Domestic Terrorism or isis inspired?

A gunman has reportedly opened fire at a church in Texas, leaving up to 24 people dead, it has been reported.

The incident took place at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, a small community south east of San Antonio.


Witnesses reported seeing a man walk into the church at around 11.30am local time.

The shooter is now believed to be dead.

Unconfirmed reports on social media claim that more than a dozen people have been injured during the shooting, though it is not clear yet how serious their injuries are.

Albert Gamez, Jr., a Wilson County Texas commissioner told CBS: "There's still a lot of investigation going on the details are kind of sketchy. A number, what they're telling me is 27 deceased and around 25 injured.

"First call it was 15, then 24, and now 27.

BorneTobyWilde

This thread was a long time coming.

Reports of 27 dead

blackcard

27 dead, 24 injured

BorneTobyWilde

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfSxJdpv5NY

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqkcxbRSzDw

ToddyDoody

Nothing on the RTE news website yet.

Seth Brundle

It's important to remember that guns don't kill!
:rolleyes:

jaykay74

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Nothing on the RTE news website yet.

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2017/1105/917673-texas-church-shooting/

wakka12

The average number of people killed in these american shooting rampages seems to be so much higher than in the past
Wasnt the university shooting back in 2000 or so the worst for a long time and only 15 died or something, seems like every shooting the last few years is much more

ToddyDoody

jaykay74 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2017/1105/917673-texas-church-shooting/

Literally just as I posted

bilston

Desperate stuff. You'd like to think you'd be safe in a church but then this isn't the first time.

How they don't toughen their gun laws is beyond me. It's insane that they don't.

Kermit.de.frog

kbannon wrote: »

It's important to remember that guns don't kill!
:rolleyes:

People kill, not the guns.

He would have gone in there and killed them all with his bare fists anyway.

Subtle

2 parallel threads on this... Whilst 'clever', not sure the title of this one is very appropriate myself...

Edit: But you know what, completely agree all the same with OPs comments and can see where they're coming from with the title!

blackcard

The churchgoers should have brought guns with them to the service to take out any potential attacker.

Gatling

In Texas of all places one of the highest population of gun owners in the whole 52 states

BorneTobyWilde

The argument was always

'' this does not happen in Texas, as we have guns in Texas ''

Well it happened in Texas !

EPAndlee

How many tragedies and killing sprees have to happen in America before they introduce gun control. They can't keep letting their citizens die at the hands of these lunatics

we'llallhavetea

should i feign shock?

jaykay74

Subtle wrote: »

2 parallel threads on this... Whilst 'clever', not sure the title of this one is very appropriate myself...

Mass shooting' reported at Sutherland Springs church in Texas
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/05/mass-shooting-reported-at-texas-sutherland-springs-church.html

Mass shooting at Texas church: Live updates
http://www.ajc.com/news/national/reports-authorities-the-scene-mass-church-shooting-texas/ZKAfUa89Web6tIpOJe1LJK/

Texas Church Mass Shooting Leaves At Least 15 Shot, Multiple Deaths
http://www.tmz.com/2017/11/05/mass-shooting-texas-church-multiple-people-shot/

mass shooting is the term all over the place. I didn't see cleverness in it until you pointed it out but I get it now obviously.

BorneTobyWilde

There was a chase after shooting. That he where they chased him down and killed him.
Not reported yet who he was.

Harry Palmr

wakka12 wrote: »

The average number of people killed in these american shooting rampages seems to be so much higher than in the past
Wasnt the university shooting back in 2000 or so the worst for a long time and only 15 died or something, seems like every shooting the last few years is much more

Could it be the type of weapons being used? These days they seem to have greater velocity and rounds per second firing rate.

Wonder which right winger will blame Kingman

Subtle

jaykay74 wrote: »

mass shooting is the term all over the place. I didn't see cleverness in it until you pointed it out but I get it now obviously.

Sorry OP, I edited my earlier post...

Beechwoodspark

Very sad incident but I have no expectation that this will force any change of the LUNATIC gun laws of America.

It's some indictment on Americans and their society that the majority seem fine with atrocities like this happening regularly.

BBDBB

If more priests were armed there would be fewer deaths during Mass


Altar servers should tool up with flick knives and Bishops should be allowed grenades

Cheerful Spring

EPAndlee wrote: »

How many tragedies and killing sprees have to happen in America before they introduce gun control. They can't keep letting their citizens die at the hands of these lunatics

America Militias. Try to take away their guns they will fire back!

blackcard

Gatling wrote: »

In Texas of all places one of the highest population of gun owners in the whole 52 states

52?

AnneFrank

Not again

Kermit.de.frog

"Dozens" killed according to CNN.

Outlaw Pete

Couple of weeks before the Vegas shooting there was a racially motivated church shooting also...it was in revenge for a previous church shooting:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/church-shooter-referenced-revenge-dylann-roof-massacre-article-1.3531505

Beechwoodspark

EPAndlee wrote: »

How many tragedies and killing sprees have to happen in America before they introduce gun control. They can't keep letting their citizens die at the hands of these lunatics

It seems they are just fine with the situation as it is. Sick society

Atlantic Dawn

Perhaps Brass Eye was ahead of its time, this don't seem so farfetched now...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAQy8v0d_qo

Turtwig

jaykay74 wrote: »

Lots of people dead it seems. Its a shame but its the way it goes in the US. They dont seem to care so much about doing anything about it (beyond offering prayers obviously).[/url]

They only care about action if the attacker(s) is from a certain race or religion.

Edward M

Gatling wrote: »

In Texas of all places one of the highest population of gun owners in the whole 52 states

It'd be simple enough to set an explosive device up too, its not the guns as was pointed out, its the lunatics behind them.
Killers always find a way, lately its been a spate of vehicles driven in to crowds, aeroplanes being taken out, should we ban them all?
How about people, they do it all, exterminate?

gandalf

BBC just said some sources are saying the gunman targeted members of their own family first.

AndyBoBandy

EPAndlee wrote: »

How many tragedies and killing sprees have to happen in America before they introduce gun control. They can't keep letting their citizens die at the hands of these lunatics

But gun sales generate far too much money for them to ever want to stop selling them.

The colour & religion of the shooter is the most important topic in these crimes. The amount of victims doesn't really matter sadly.

All My Stars Aligned

There has been 376 mass shooting (a mass shooting being defined as 4 of more casualties) so far this year. The country is pathetic in its disregard for human life. More will die tomorrow and the next day and each day after yet nothing will change.

EPAndlee

RoboKlopp wrote: »

The colour & religion of the shooter is the most important topic in these crimes. The amount of victims does'nt really matter sadly.

It's only important if the shooter isn't white

Doltanian

Obligatory Trump-bashing post.

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/SpeakerRyan/status/927269491045695488

Same old sh!t. Send your prayers etc. Fcuk off and do something about it you spineless NRA bitches.

RIP.

Once again the perverse consequences of the 'the right to keep and bear arms' is apparent.

Geuze

Gatling wrote: »

In Texas of all places one of the highest population of gun owners in the whole 52 states

50 states in USA.

Guy Sajer

RoboKlopp wrote: »

The colour & religion of the shooter is the most important topic in these crimes. The amount of victims does'nt really matter sadly.

The amount of victims doesn't give leads on how to prevent similar crimes or to learn the whys od such attacks.

Turtwig

Doltanian wrote: »

Obligatory Trump-bashing post.

Strange, you're the first to directly focus on potus.

Geuze

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SpeakerRyan/status/927269491045695488

Same old sh!t. Send your prayers etc. Fcuk off and do something about it you spineless NRA bitches.

I've noticed this again and again.

Praying as a response to mass shootings.

Crazy.

Beechwoodspark

All My Stars Aligned wrote: »

There has been 376 mass shooting (a mass shooting being defined as 4 of more casualties) so far this year. The country is pathetic in its disregard for human life. More will die tomorrow and the next day and each day after yet nothing will change.

They couldn't go banning or even tightening up their gun laws. Too much money to be made.

Crocodile tears and prayers now for the next while. Trump might even send a nice tweet.

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SpeakerRyan/status/927269491045695488

Same old sh!t. Send your prayers etc. Fcuk off and do something about it you spineless NRA bitches.

Yep, prayers are really gonna help. Talk about patronising for the families. They may as well send bottles of air.


Sorry for your loss. We won't change anything, but here's lots of prayers :rolleyes:

Outlaw Pete

Two year old among the dead. Christ.

A Little Pony

Only a few amendments matter in America, the 2nd one is one of them. They will never give up guns.

bodhrandude

Why?