2018 DCM Race Series

Van.Bosch

Anyone know anything about the series for 2018?

There is usually a full page ad in the marathon programme but I didn’t see anything this year?

Singer

My guess is the outcome of Fingal County Council's and the race organiser's review of the event will dictate whether it will go ahead in Newbridge House next year again and that will delay any announcement of what's happening next year. Public submissions to the council (mostly aimed at the local impact) closed last week.

Van.Bosch

Heard a few days ago that the half is back in the park this year.

Bananaleaf

Van.Bosch wrote: »

Heard a few days ago that the half is back in the park this year.

Have been keeping an eye on this one. Nothing official until Jan I believe. Haven't heard a thing myself.

Van.Bosch

Bananaleaf wrote: »

Have been keeping an eye on this one. Nothing official until Jan I believe. Haven't heard a thing myself.

Got mail direct from DCM office, permits to be confirmed before date announced.

Gillo

It's normally Jan from what I remember, although I wouldn't be surprised if there was a bit of a delay as decisions are made between Newbridge House / Phoenix Park / somewhere else.

Singer

The Chairman of Dublin Race Series, Jim Aughney said: “We would like to apologise again to all runners affected by the delay on the day. This was the first year running the event at this location. We had a full and comprehensive traffic management plan in place. It is clear however that there were shortcomings and we will take on board the findings to improve the Race Series for 2018. We will revert to the Phoenix Park for the SSE Airtricity Half- Marathon in 2018.”

https://www.facebook.com/fingalcoco/posts/1550428365012867

Press release and report linked above. Back to the park so! Not a big surprise.

Damo 2k9

Dates and venues have been posted for this year!!

10k - Grange Castle, Clondalkin 22nd July

10 mile - Fingal 26th August

Half Marathon - Phoenix Park 22nd September

charkee

thanks Damo.

10 miler in Fingal/Swords on sun 26 aug.

I am told the stewards got a lot of grief on the 10k route which affects a few estates in the area.10miler may cause more ?

But there is plenty of parking/car parks off swords main st.

colin32

Was looking forward to the 10 miler this year round Phoenix park, but moved to fingal I think I'll give it a miss

adrian522

colin32 wrote: »

Was looking forward to the 10 miler this year round Phoenix park, but moved to fingal I think I'll give it a miss

I'm the opposite, kind of sick of that course in the park, happy for them to do something different.

S.L.F.

Clondalkin for the 10km, could it be any far out.

Testosterscone

S.L.F. wrote: »

Clondalkin for the 10km, could it be any far out.

For any coming from outside Dublin it is actually more convenient.

It's a good spot for a race to be honest;

- Relatively flat area
- Direct public transport from Dublin City
- Multiple entrance points with multilane traffic (M50 and Naas Road)

Probably encourage a more coming from the West and South Direction to do this race.

average_runner

S.L.F. wrote: »

Clondalkin for the 10km, could it be any far out.

Where are you living, its only 7 miles or so from the city centre! Real easy to get to also! Grange castle is served by 151 and 13, also you could get 25a and 25b and do a small 10 min warm up to Grange castle!!!

average_runner

Testosterscone wrote: »

For any coming from outside Dublin it is actually more convenient.

It's a good spot for a race to be honest;

- Relatively flat area
- Direct public transport from Dublin City
- Multiple entrance points with multilane traffic (M50 and Naas Road)

Probably encourage a more coming from the West and South Direction to do this race.

Train there regularly, if they do this right, they could have one of the fastest 10k courses!!!

Kissy Lips

colin32 wrote: »

Was looking forward to the 10 miler this year round Phoenix park, but moved to fingal I think I'll give it a miss

Same here, was looking forward to wearing my red 2008 Frank Duffy (bellytop at this stage) around the Park again. Is it even the Frank Duffy anymore if it moves venue? Like the brush with 2 new heads and 3 new handles.

S.L.F.

average_runner wrote: »

Where are you living, its only 7 miles or so from the city centre! Real easy to get to also! Grange castle is served by 151 and 13, also you could get 25a and 25b and do a small 10 min warm up to Grange castle!!!

Yeah dont mean to be smart but I know where Clondalkin is thats why I'm saying its very far out :P


I suppose moving it south side is only fair since its been north side for so long.

Sounds like your ideal race with you practicing out there and knowing the area.

S.L.F.

Testosterscone wrote: »

For any coming from outside Dublin it is actually more convenient.

It's a good spot for a race to be honest;

- Relatively flat area
- Direct public transport from Dublin City
- Multiple entrance points with multilane traffic (M50 and Naas Road)

Probably encourage a more coming from the West and South Direction to do this race.

The flat part sounds appealing.

Do you know of any mass races that take place there already?
If not then time will tell if its a good spot for a race.
See how it fairs with the locals etc.

If the M50 is close to the race point then that is at least something for northsiders although there is the toll charge.
And if traveling on public transport then its an equal hassle having to be over there before 10 on a weekend.

Definitely encourage more living south like yourself and AR but sure all the club runners from Raheny etc will make their way over no matter where they put it.

Testosterscone

S.L.F. wrote: »

The flat part sounds appealing.

Do you know of any mass races that take place there already?
If not then time will tell if its a good spot for a race.
See how it fairs with the locals etc.

If the M50 is close to the race point then that is at least something for northsiders although there is the toll charge.
And if traveling on public transport then its an equal hassle having to be over there before 10 on a weekend.

Definitely encourage more living south like yourself and AR but sure all the club runners from Raheny etc will make their way over no matter where they put it.

There used to be races help in Adamstown that were fairly well organise (don't quite get the same numbers mind you) as well as cross country championships in Corkagh Park. Also given it's out by business parks should be very few inconvenienced locals

Haha my reference to the south was a bit further afield than south Dublin. Don't worry though it makes you feel better your not the only one inconvenienced (ironically easier it's for me to go to likes of Raheny and Santry) but it opens up the race more to people in Waterford, Kilkenny limerick etc via the naas road.

Van.Bosch

Course details have been added to the website for the three events.

Graham1882

Hi folks

Apologies if this sounds like a silly question but what would the standard be like at these events, more so Clondalkin/ Swords? My PB for 5k is 28.38 just wouldn't want to be last,I know it sounds silly.

Van.Bosch

Graham1882 wrote: »

Hi folks

Apologies if this sounds like a silly question but what would the standard be like at these events, more so Clondalkin/ Swords? My PB for 5k is 28.38 just wouldn't want to be last,I know it sounds silly.

With that time you’d prob do the 10k in an hour or just over, you’ll be far from last.

The race series are great events (last years half excluded) so give it a go.

Graham1882

Van.Bosch wrote:

With that time you’d prob do the 10k in an hour or just over, you’ll be far from last.

Van.Bosch wrote:

The race series are great events (last years half excluded) so give it a go.

Thanks Van Bosch will sign up for the two of them and give it a bash.

S.L.F.

Testosterscone wrote: »

For any coming from outside Dublin it is actually more convenient.

It's a good spot for a race to be honest;

- Relatively flat area
- Direct public transport from Dublin City
- Multiple entrance points with multilane traffic (M50 and Naas Road)

Probably encourage a more coming from the West and South Direction to do this race.

Graham1882 wrote: »

Hi folks

Apologies if this sounds like a silly question but what would the standard be like at these events, more so Clondalkin/ Swords? My PB for 5k is 28.38 just wouldn't want to be last,I know it sounds silly.

Loads walk it as well, you defo wouldn't be last.

You've loads of time to train and could well get under the 55 minutes for the 10k by the time it comes around.

Bananaleaf

So happy to run on home turf with the 10k. Know that route like the back of my hand. In my head, but have never ran it, but it seems like it will be a quick one - certainly the first half of it anyway

Graham1882

S.L.F. wrote:

You've loads of time to train and could well get under the 55 minutes for the 10k by the time it comes around.

Thanks SLF definitely could work on reducing times before it comes around. It gets a bit addictive try ing to reduce/ maintain times.

S.L.F.

Graham1882 wrote: »

Thanks SLF definitely could work on reducing times before it comes around. It gets a bit addictive try ing to reduce/ maintain times.

It is, I agree and although you think 28 minutes is brutal, its not.
If you were really motivated and had the time you could break 50 minutes
come July which seems to be the time a lot of fun runners want to beat.

But even if you don't you wont be at the back. Enjoy it is the best thing - keep the weight down and the mood up.

That's my aim anyway.

BowSideChamp

Damo 2k9 wrote: »

Dates and venues have been posted for this year!!

10k - Grange Castle, Clondalkin 22nd July

10 mile - Fingal 26th August

Half Marathon - Phoenix Park 22nd September

Eh what about the 5miler in June?? Is that gone now?

S.L.F.

BowSideChamp wrote: »

Eh what about the 5miler in June?? Is that gone now?

Its not part of the race series anymore. It was run as an independent event by The Irish Runner last year for the first time.

I imagine it will be the same this year,

SeeMoreBut

Routes are up.

Back the previous route in the park

Arsenium

I see they have a message saying anyone who couldnt do last years half can request a code for one of the race series events this year. Which is a nice touch I think.

Problem is I dont have my race number any more.

Anyone know what can be done in that case?

quickbeam

It was the same race number for all three in the race series. If you ran any of the others you can look up the results and get your race number.

Otherwise, email them?

Arsenium

quickbeam wrote: »

It was the same race number for all three in the race series. If you ran any of the others you can look up the results and get your race number.

Otherwise, email them?

Only entered the 1/2. Just sent them a mail there.

Thanks for the reply.

Arsenium

Wow. Sent them a message on Facebook and within 20 mins I had the no!

Cant complain about that service :-)

Murph_D

The new 10k course looks very interesting. Terrific that it uses the Grand Canal and Corkagh Park, and the section through Clondalkin Village should be good too if a bit of support comes out. The Frank Duffy route is interesting too - a long variation of the Fingal 10k route, I suppose. Bring them on!

quickbeam

Looks interesting alright. I was wondering if there'd be a bottle neck getting on and off the canal though?

Murph_D

quickbeam wrote: »

Looks interesting alright. I was wondering if there'd be a bottle neck getting on and off the canal though?

Seven miles in - should be grand! The canal path is pretty wide there too.

quickbeam

Murph_D wrote: »

Seven miles in - should be grand! The canal path is pretty wide there too.

On a 10K route - yeah, should definitely be grand so :P

Murph_D

quickbeam wrote: »

On a 10K route - yeah, should definitely be grand so :P

D'oh!

7k in is of course what I meant to say.

average_runner

Murph_D wrote: »

The new 10k course looks very interesting. Terrific that it uses the Grand Canal and Corkagh Park, and the section through Clondalkin Village should be good too if a bit of support comes out. The Frank Duffy route is interesting too - a long variation of the Fingal 10k route, I suppose. Bring them on!

Not a fan of the course, know the route well and the part in Corkagh Park will cause a bottle neck.

If its a windy day from the West you can say good bye to a good time, if from the east you can say hello to a good time

From 9k mark its fast.

Murph_D

average_runner wrote: »

Not a fan of the course, know the route well and the part in Corkagh Park will cause a bottle neck.

If its a windy day from the West you can say good bye to a good time, if from the east you can say hello to a good time

From 9k mark its fast.

Possibly - would have thought though by 3k the field would be spread out enough to avoid Corkagh being a bottleneck. The Fingal 10k included narrow roads (albeit from km 5 on) and was never a problem. From what I remember from Corkagh parkrun that's a nice stretch of park with good surface and not particularly narrow (much wider than some of the P Park stretches that were part of the Frank Duffy course in the past).

Time will tell. I'll be signing up anyway!

The Muppet

Graham1882 wrote: »

Hi folks

Apologies if this sounds like a silly question but what would the standard be like at these events, more so Clondalkin/ Swords? My PB for 5k is 28.38 just wouldn't want to be last,I know it sounds silly.

The truth is these events are for all standards, with your 5k time you would be far from last .

jhammer

average_runner wrote: »

Not a fan of the course, know the route well and the part in Corkagh Park will cause a bottle neck.

If its a windy day from the West you can say good bye to a good time, if from the east you can say hello to a good time

From 9k mark its fast.

From 9k is downhill basicially!
Is 7k-9k actually on the canal? If so that could be tight coming off the canal onto the bridge, if that's what happens?

I'd also be concerned about car capacity in the business park. How many normally compete in fingal, 3/4 thousand?

average_runner

jhammer wrote: »

From 9k is downhill basicially!
Is 7k-9k actually on the canal? If so that could be tight coming off the canal onto the bridge, if that's what happens?

I'd also be concerned about car capacity in the business park. How many normally compete in fingal, 3/4 thousand?

Business park is big, Pfizer has a massive car park, hopefully this is available.
Plus there is more space at the top of the park in other factories.
Public transport is also good, 25A/25B will leave you in Lucan and a 10 min jog to the start line.

The turn off the canal to the bridge will be tight but at 9k, runners will be spread out. After that its a quick finish.

fletch

average_runner wrote: »

Business park is big, Pfizer has a massive car park, hopefully this is available.
Plus there is more space at the top of the park in other factories.
Public transport is also good, 25A/25B will leave you in Lucan and a 10 min jog to the start line.

Hmmm it's still one road in and one road out albeit a relatively quiet dual carraigeway. It won't be Newbridge House levels of carnage but I do predict traffic management will be an issue. The run route is on the access roads too so will need to closed in sufficient time before the race so late arrivers will be forced to park "far" away.

Edit - I see there are actually 2 entrances...

average_runner

fletch wrote: »

Hmmm it's still one road in and one road out albeit a relatively quiet dual carraigeway. It won't be Newbridge House levels of carnage but I do predict traffic management will be an issue. The run route is on the access roads too so will need to closed in sufficient time before the race so late arrivers will be forced to park "far" away.

Edit - I see there are actually 2 entrances...

There will be three entries, new one at the very back of it also.

Many ways to each entry also.

S.L.F.

average_runner wrote: »

Not a fan of the course, know the route well and the part in Corkagh Park will cause a bottle neck.

If its a windy day from the West you can say good bye to a good time, if from the east you can say hello to a good time

From 9k mark its fast.

jhammer wrote: »

From 9k is downhill basicially!
Is 7k-9k actually on the canal? If so that could be tight coming off the canal onto the bridge, if that's what happens?

I'd also be concerned about car capacity in the business park. How many normally compete in fingal, 3/4 thousand?

fletch wrote: »

Hmmm it's still one road in and one road out albeit a relatively quiet dual carraigeway. It won't be Newbridge House levels of carnage but I do predict traffic management will be an issue. The run route is on the access roads too so will need to closed in sufficient time before the race so late arrivers will be forced to park "far" away.

Edit - I see there are actually 2 entrances...

If this race and the 10 miler is not a success in regards to routes and location it could mark the end of the series or partial end for some of the races.

Nobody will have any faith in them if they change the route and location again after this or if there's mayhem like with the half.

Cant remember what the reason was for taking them out of the park but if it was a numbers issue they really should've just capped the races and maybe increased the cost of entry to cut any losses.

They ran so well over the years with a couple of low entries here and there which can happen to any race.

Always a lovely run up to the marathon for prepping and a source of inspiration for some who were new to the sport if they hadn't managed to get past 5 miles, 10km etc. Something to aim for.

The Davestator

S.L.F. wrote: »

If this race and the 10 miler is not a success in regards to routes and location it could mark the end of the series or partial end for some of the races.

Nobody will have any faith in them if they change the route and location again after this or if there's mayhem like with the half.

Cant remember what the reason was for taking them out of the park but if it was a numbers issue they really should've just capped the races and maybe increased the cost of entry to cut any losses.

They ran so well over the years with a couple of low entries here and there which can happen to any race.

Always a lovely run up to the marathon for prepping and a source of inspiration for some who were new to the sport if they hadn't managed to get past 5 miles, 10km etc. Something to aim for.

I'd imagine that a lot of people, like me, won't do races in the park anymore as there have been so many races there over the years.

I wouldn't do another race in the park unless it was for a very specific reason (Jingle bells 5 k PB target or something like that)

Hopefully the new events run smoothly - I think they will be very mindful of the need to get these right after last year.

S.L.F.

The Davestator wrote: »

I'd imagine that a lot of people, like me, won't do races in the park anymore as there have been so many races there over the years.

I wouldn't do another race in the park unless it was for a very specific reason (Jingle bells 5 k PB target or something like that)

Hopefully the new events run smoothly - I think they will be very mindful of the need to get these right after last year.

Yeah I know what you mean but that's to be expected over the lifetime of the sport. An old (for want of a better word ) one leaves and a new one comes in.

Or maybe you're right, maybe when figures fell they were trying to jazz it up a bit offering new locations.

Really do hope they've thought this through thoroughly and checked it out with the locals and route experts (whoever they might be)

average_runner

S.L.F. wrote: »

Yeah I know what you mean but that's to be expected over the lifetime of the sport. An old (for want of a better word ) one leaves and a new one comes in.

Or maybe you're right, maybe when figures fell they were trying to jazz it up a bit offering new locations.

Really do hope they've thought this through thoroughly and checked it out with the locals and route experts (whoever they might be)

Would love a city 10k or 10 miler. Real pity they can't get the council in on this!

S.L.F.

average_runner wrote: »

Would love a city 10k or 10 miler. Real pity they can't get the council in on this!

Do you mean in Dublin city centre or...?