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  • 29-10-2017 11:20pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭


    News of stabbing incidents and robberies coming more common to me especially this year. Just recently found out a distant friend of mine got held at knifepoint in Dublin, made me think what does one do to avoid it apart from giving the scumbag what he wants. Pepper spray and carrying knifes are illegal, so maybe was thinking of getting those 10 in 1 tool kits, in case anyone causes trouble. What would you do if your house was getting robbed or you were held at gun/knifepoint ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    News of stabbing incidents and robberies coming more common to me especially this year. Just recently found out a distant friend of mine got held at knifepoint in Dublin, made me think what does one do to avoid it apart from giving the scumbag what he wants. Pepper spray and carrying knifes are illegal, so maybe was thinking of getting those 10 in 1 tool kits, in case anyone causes trouble. What would you do if your house was gettimg robbed or you were held at gun/knifepoint ?

    Blast them with piss.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,611 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    What would you do if your house was gettimg robbed or you were held at gun/knifepoint ?

    Get naked and start roaring 99 Luftballons at them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 567 ✭✭✭Burzum


    To be honest chances of getting robbed at knife point are slim and I don't think carrying a 10in1 around on the off chance you will get robbed is the right thing to do as it will more than likely lead to someone getting hurt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    I thought this thread was going to be about johnnies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭Cortina_MK_IV


    News of stabbing incidents and robberies coming more common to me especially this year. Just recently found out a distant friend of mine got held at knifepoint in Dublin, made me think what does one do to avoid it apart from giving the scumbag what he wants. Pepper spray and carrying knifes are illegal, so maybe was thinking of getting those 10 in 1 tool kits, in case anyone causes trouble. What would you do if your house was gettimg robbed or you were held at gun/knifepoint ?

    What are you going to do... Give him a manicure first, open a bottle of wine and fix his bike?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭testicles


    This post has been deleted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    Pepper spray isn't illegal for culinary uses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    What would you do if your house was gettimg robbed or you were held at gun/knifepoint ?
    If I was getting robbed, probably the torque wrench. Not in the toolbox so easier to reach. If held up at gunpoint, eh, take what you want buddy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    Its a good idea to carry a wallet full of old expired cards and a few notes like tens and fives so you can just hand it over fast and let them make their get away. It will also buy you time to run before they realise they've been had.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Beanntraigheach




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  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 23,210 ✭✭✭✭beertons


    Pepper mill. Say you're on the way home from dinner if questioned


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,910 ✭✭✭begbysback


    I use factor 45, any less than that and you're looking for trouble


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Swift kick in the nuts did it when some **** tried to rob me in the street. Dont try to be a hero, Disable them for long enough to get away.

    Had someone attempting to break into the house about a year ago while we were in. Garda were there in mins and got them but had they got in I may have taken a claw hammer to the ***** knees to give me a chance to leg it until help arrived.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Oven cleaner aerosol.
    Pick one that squirts out as far as possible.
    Perfectly legal to carry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Oven cleaner aerosol.
    Pick one that squirts out as far as possible.
    Perfectly legal to carry.

    Can you get that in a pocket size? :)

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭greenflash


    Esel wrote: »
    Can you get that in a pocket size? :)

    Depends on the size of your pockets.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    carrying oven cleaner might be legal but spraying it in some scumbags eyesbwill get you in hassell
    fine if younplannon running awaybbut dont end up innfront of a judge arguing you hadnt carried it with intent and that you hadnt ment to blind the scobie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Tigger wrote: »
    carrying oven cleaner might be legal but spraying it in some scumbags eyesbwill get you in hassell
    fine if younplannon running awaybbut dont end up innfront of a judge arguing you hadnt carried it with intent and that you hadnt ment to blind the scobie

    I'll take my chances!
    When people are too afraid of the legal consequences of defending themselves against robbery or assault, it ceases to be a normal society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,117 ✭✭✭✭Junkyard Tom


    A good gawp at my explosive belt frightens off these types - I wear one at all times.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,644 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Lynx in a travel can sorted.

    If you smell spray it on and if one tries it on spray em as well


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭DubInTheWest


    Jamjamdam wrote: »
    Just talk or roar in the case of a dirty jackeen, they'll run a mile, dublin scumbags.

    lol, why don't you post with your 'real account' ? It's clowns like you who sit there drinking looking for people to bite with your stupid comments. There is a fair few scumbags in Dublin I agree, but shur ye get that in all counties :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,998 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    greenflash wrote: »
    Depends on the size of your pockets.
    Is that a can of degreasing spray in your pocket or are you just pleased to see me?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,853 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    Just wear a stab proof vest, sorted


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    what does one do to avoid it apart from giving the scumbag what he wants.

    Apparently not giving them what they want is the way to go about it. In fact doing the complete opposite of what they want in many situations has been recommended. If they say get in the car - you do not get in the car. If they say do not scream - you scream. And so on.

    At least that is the thinking of people like Gavin de Becker on the subject - who is seeminglz some kind of expert on violence.

    We do Brazilian JuJitsu and a few related things ourselves here and it has come into use on a few occasions. Including an attempted rape attack on a girlfriend.
    What would you do if your house was getting robbed or you were held at gun/knifepoint ?

    Happened once but the canine dealt with it.

    I woke up needing water and on route to the kitchen I found a not altogether unpleasant young man (not a total junkie by any means) sitting with his back against the wall with said canine glaring him out of it with the occasional baring of teeth.

    In a broken and quiet voice - having seen me - he just said "Dude - been here - hours - get this thing - away from me - pleeeeeeease".

    Seemingly the faithful hound had threatened him not only if he tried to move - but if he made any moves to sleep either. So he was kept there in a permanent state of fear for his life AND sleep deprivation for some hours.

    I calmly proceeded to the kitchen - had my water - stuck the kettle on - called the police - made the young reprobate a nice tea - gave it to him - sat down on a couch near by and turned late night television on - and basically we both watched TV until the cops got there. (Not a satisfactory response time by them as it happens).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,419 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    what does one do to avoid it apart from giving the scumbag what he wants.

    Apparently not giving them what they want is the way to go about it. In fact doing the complete opposite of what they want in many situations has been recommended. If they say get in the car - you do not get in the car. If they say do not scream - you scream. And so on.

    At least that is the thinking of people like Gavin de Becker on the subject - who is seeminglz some kind of expert on violence.

    We do Brazilian JuJitsu and a few related things ourselves here and it has come into use on a few occasions. Including an attempted rape attack on a girlfriend.
    What would you do if your house was getting robbed or you were held at gun/knifepoint ?

    Happened once but the canine dealt with it.

    I woke up needing water and on route to the kitchen I found a not altogether unpleasant young man (not a total junkie by any means) sitting with his back against the wall with said canine glaring him out of it with the occasional baring of teeth.

    In a broken and quiet voice - having seen me - he just said "Dude - been here - hours - get this thing - away from me - pleeeeeeease".

    Seemingly the faithful hound had threatened him not only if he tried to move - but if he made any moves to sleep either. So he was kept there in a permanent state of fear for his life AND sleep deprivation for some hours.

    I calmly proceeded to the kitchen - had my water - stuck the kettle on - called the police - made the young reprobate a nice tea - gave it to him - sat down on a couch near by and turned late night television on - and basically we both watched TV until the cops got there. (Not a satisfactory response time by them as it happens).

    You're Batman ? Right.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    You're Batman ? Right.

    Did he own a dog and liked to make tea for intruders?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I thought this thread was going to be about johnnies.

    If you're attacked outside the Iona Institute...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭spaceHopper


    Small can of deep heat spray.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Augme


    If you honestly need to carry oven cleaner in your pockets to feel safe in Dublin city you should get counselling. And I'm not being flippant, I seriously think that would be the best thing to do.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Augme wrote: »
    If you honestly need to carry oven cleaner in your pockets to feel safe in Dublin city you should get counselling. And I'm not being flippant, I seriously think that would be the best thing to do.

    Should I wait till after I'm a victim of some little scrote , and just go for the victim counselling, or should I get started with the pre-attack counselling now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Should I wait till after I'm a victim of some little scrote , and just go for the victim counselling, or should I get started with the pre-attack counselling now?

    I'd wait til after.

    In the 20 years living in Dublin I've never had to carry or use oven cleaner to defend myself. Or anything else for that matter.

    So the counselling was wasted :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    I'm sorry you spent so much money, and still haven't been attacked :D
    And no I don't walk around with a can of oven cleaner, that was just a response to someone wondering about getting Mace spray.
    If I feel threatened, I just thread my car keys through my fingers. Never been assaulted, bar the usual drunks roaring and shouting etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,768 ✭✭✭✭tomwaterford


    What's so special about oven cleaner that it scares away knackers :confused:



    And where can I buy some


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭mugsymugsy


    Unagi!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    What's so special about oven cleaner that it scares away knackers :confused:

    Cleanliness.



    And some caustic soda.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    i saw a guy on the luas once eating ham that he was pulling out of his pocket, maybe thats a protection mechanism?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭judeboy101


    Used to live in NY in late 1980's , ppl used to go jogging and had a backed razor blade stuck to underside of their watch. Not much good against a gun but might make a lad with a knife think twice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    Ill just leave this here too, it might help some of the pussycats on this forum :D:D:D



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭gumbo1


    If you do get stopped by someone who demands your wallet an phone just ask them if they want a game of "Roshambo" winner takes all, tell them "I'll go first"! Winner winner I'm having chicken dinner


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭Augme


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    Should I wait till after I'm a victim of some little scrote , and just go for the victim counselling, or should I get started with the pre-attack counselling now?

    Get some pre-attack counselling. You'll feel a lot better when you aren't scared to walk the tame streets of Dublin.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    Augme wrote: »
    Get some pre-attack counselling. You'll feel a lot better when you aren't scared to walk the tame streets of Dublin.

    You seem to be mixing me up with the OP! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    I'll take my chances!
    When people are too afraid of the legal consequences of defending themselves against robbery or assault, it ceases to be a normal society.

    you missunderstand me
    i have ninissue with peolle defending themselves and if some attacker gets blinded then thats their issue
    however you would also get into alot of trouble so dont think you wouldnt and let yourself get caught


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    I'm sorry you spent so much money, and still haven't been attacked :D
    And no I don't walk around with a can of oven cleaner, that was just a response to someone wondering about getting Mace spray.
    If I feel threatened, I just thread my car keys through my fingers. Never been assaulted, bar the usual drunks roaring and shouting etc.

    car keys are very dear these days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,769 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    34” Hurley. The great leveller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,130 ✭✭✭talla10



    Happened once but the canine dealt with it.

    I woke up needing water and on route to the kitchen I found a not altogether unpleasant young man (not a total junkie by any means) sitting with his back against the wall with said canine glaring him out of it with the occasional baring of teeth.

    In a broken and quiet voice - having seen me - he just said "Dude - been here - hours - get this thing - away from me - pleeeeeeease".

    Seemingly the faithful hound had threatened him not only if he tried to move - but if he made any moves to sleep either. So he was kept there in a permanent state of fear for his life AND sleep deprivation for some hours.

    I calmly proceeded to the kitchen - had my water - stuck the kettle on - called the police - made the young reprobate a nice tea - gave it to him - sat down on a couch near by and turned late night television on - and basically we both watched TV until the cops got there. (Not a satisfactory response time by them as it happens).

    Never happened....


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