General Rugby Discussion II

RobbieRuns

If he was in a bad team in France, it will be much the same in London. Relegation still a big threat for them. Jackson (I believe) is a marquee player on big money, so of course he will play. Madigan would never have been an option as he is under contract with Bristol.

Big risk by Kidney signing him though. Kidney and Jackson both have a bit to prove.

Bridge93

So it seemed Israel Folau was to return to rugby league and play with Tonga but now it isn’t so certain he’ll be allowed to

ScrubsfanChris

Bridge93 wrote: »

So it seemed Israel Folau was to return to rugby league and play with Tonga but now it isn’t so certain he’ll be allowed to

He'd fit in quite well over there :rolleyes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Tonga

Squidgy Black

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zlMVu9CXgqk&feature=youtu.be#dialog

Short documentary on Rodney Ah-You, well worth a watch.

thomond2006

Fri 7:45pm Ulster vs Ospreys - Eir

Sat 5:45am Argentina vs Tonga - Eir
Sat 8:15am Japan vs Ireland - RTE/Eir
Sat 10:45am South Africa vs Namibia - Eir
Sat 3pm Munster vs Dragons - TG4/Eir
Sat 5:15pm Scarlets vs Connacht - TG4
Sat 5:15pm Benetton vs Leinster - Eir

Sun 6:15am Georgia vs Uruguay - Eir
Sun 8:45am Australia vs Wales - Eir

Pace yourselves.

ScrubsfanChris

thomond2006 wrote: »

Pace yourselves.

Russian Grand Prix...
NFL Sunday...


Saturday Morning




Sunday Night

Cheika and now Hansen, the prevalence of Social Media will shine a light more and more on the cheat merchants. No team will be immune but the dark masters are the ones making noise.

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/hansen-slams-trial-by-social-media/?fbclid=IwAR16z_KNIpd0rRA-PUAjj2U0iBAaceK3XVy73jckjen8LfmLWDiu6GlVVpg

thomond2006

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Russian Grand Prix...
NFL Sunday...


Saturday Morning




Sunday Night

Vikings @ Bears 9:25pm Sunday.
Monday will be rough.

sydthebeat

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/9988123/england-rugby-steffon-armitage-guilty-sexually-assaulting-woman-france/

i havent seen this mentioned anywhere but steffon armitage in trouble :

A FORMER England rugby player has been handed a suspended sentence after being found guilty of groping a woman outside a bar in France.
A court today handed the former flanker a suspended sentence for six months. He was also ordered to pay the victim 5,000 euros (£4,400) compensation.

blackwhite

sydthebeat wrote: »

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/9988123/england-rugby-steffon-armitage-guilty-sexually-assaulting-woman-france/

i havent seen this mentioned anywhere but steffon armitage in trouble :

I wonder is that going to impact on his ability to get a visa to play in San Diego next year?

Dog Botherer

blackwhite wrote: »

I wonder is that going to impact on his ability to get a visa to play in San Diego next year?

Good shout, would a groping like that come under sexual assault? As he’s convicted he’d have a lot of trouble getting in. Paddy Jackson missed us beating the AB’s just from an investigation.

Captain_Crash

Dog Botherer wrote: »

Paddy Jackson missed us beating the AB’s just from an investigation.

That's because he had to attend a police up north station to answer questions on the morning the squad were leaving, it wasn't anything to do with entry to the US.

salmocab

Captain_Crash wrote: »

That's because he had to attend a police up north station to answer questions on the morning the squad were leaving, it wasn't anything to do with entry to the US.

Pretty sure he wasn’t given a visa

razorblunt

blackwhite wrote: »

I wonder is that going to impact on his ability to get a visa to play in San Diego next year?

Didn’t Mils Muliena play over there after leaving Connacht with the Cardiff debacle still hanging over him?

Captain_Crash

salmocab wrote: »

Pretty sure he wasn’t given a visa

Nope, he just wasn't available for the reasons specified above. No charges were filed until July 2017, 8 months after the NZ game. At the time it wasn't public knowledge that PJ was involved, although there were rumors about it.


I don't know what visa the players would actually need in the US to play a game (or even if they need one) but it would likely be a H1b which has no questions regarding investigations.

blackwhite

razorblunt wrote: »

Didn’t Mils Muliena play over there after leaving Connacht with the Cardiff debacle still hanging over him?

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/ex-new-zealand-rugby-player-10287921


Charges were dropped before he went to the US.

Armitage actually has a conviction now, so different kettle of fish entirely.

b.gud

razorblunt wrote: »

Didn’t Mils Muliena play over there after leaving Connacht with the Cardiff debacle still hanging over him?

Mils went to Zebre after Connacht and I believe that during his time in Zebre the case against him was dismissed so he would have been free to play in the states

blackwhite

Captain_Crash wrote: »

Nope, he just wasn't available for the reasons specified above. No charges were filed until July 2017, 8 months after the NZ game. At the time it wasn't public knowledge that PJ was involved, although there were rumors about it.


I don't know what visa the players would actually need in the US to play a game (or even if they need one) but it would likely be a H1b which has no questions regarding investigations.

There's a special visa for professional sports - P-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_visa


EB1A or O-1 would also potentially be used either - but higher bar to get them

stephen_n

thomond2006 wrote: »

Vikings @ Bears 9:25pm Sunday.
Monday will be rough.

By the sounds of things Sunday will be worse.

Squidgy Black

PJ gets the starting jersey for LI against Quins.

Looking forward to seeing how he goes.

thomond2006

stephen_n wrote: »

By the sounds of things Sunday will be worse.

NFL Sunday makes winter Sundays great!

stephen_n

thomond2006 wrote: »

NFL Sunday makes winter Sundays great!

stephen_n

stephen_n wrote: »

Lovely consistency to the dry there. Distribution is world class and the combinations across uneven surfaces show just how much prep work was done. Difficult to see how anyone can top this performance but still early in the season so will wait and see.

sydthebeat

its disappointing that ultimate rugby havent got their arse in gear for Pro14 rugby kicking off tonight.

pc7

sydthebeat wrote: »

its disappointing that ultimate rugby havent got their arse in gear for Pro14 rugby kicking off tonight.

Its there for me, have you favourited this years league?

sydthebeat

pc7 wrote: »

Its there for me, have you favourited this years league?

im not talking about android, im talking about on PC

they have all the other tournaments already set up for news, fixtures, results etc apart from the Pro14

Squidgy Black

pc7 wrote: »

Its there for me, have you favourited this years league?

Mine doesn't even differentiate between years, automatically updated to this year's fixtures for me.

pc7

Squidgy Black wrote: »

Mine doesn't even differentiate between years, automatically updated to this year's fixtures for me.

Yeah it was there for me, just thought maybe they needed that if wasn't working (I'm using iPhone)

Zzippy

Noel Reid starting at 10 for Leicester v Exeter

bilston

I know talk of rugby expansion is discussed often particularly around world cups, but what can be done to grow the game and develop more competitive teams, especially now that the Global League has been rejected.

With Japan up to 8th in the world and looking very good at the weekend, surely the time is now to strike and get them into the Rugby Championship. Don't muck around for 10 years like what happened with Italy, get them in as soon as is feasible.

What can be done in Europe. It's only natural that Unions will look after their own interests so it's pointless criticising the likes of the IRFU to embrace change that might ultimately cost Irish rugby, they are, after all a business, but what can be done to get Georgia, Romania, Spain and Russia up to the next level.

I think Georgia should be gaurenteed at least 3 games a year against 6Ns sides and one of those should be in Tblissi (say in November), and maybe a Georgian domestic side should be guaranteed entry into the Challenge Cup to help expose more Georgian players to a higher level of rugby.

I can't see them joining the 6Ns anytime soon, with the CVc takeover underway there is more chance of the USA joining than Georgia, or any other European side.

That said is there anything to say that the 6Ns should be a European tournament?