Formula 1 2017 - Round 18 Mexico

Burkie1203

Honda changed engine in VanDoornes car this morning and now have to change it again.

Toro Rosso must be chuffed

Vic_08

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Honda changed engine in VanDoornes car this morning and now have to change it again.

Toro Rosso must be chuffed

On his 10th power unit and 12th turbo.

Next year the limit before penalties is 3. They have been at this for 4 years, unreliable or slow would be a poor show but unreliable and slow is just a joke.

In order to get them on board Honda must have shown Red Bull something that made them think that they could get their act together by 2019, the only thing I can imagine is that they finally admitted they were unable to do the job and have farmed out the design work to someone more competent.

Harika

Vic_08 wrote: »

On his 10th power unit and 12th turbo.

Next year the limit before penalties is 3. They have been at this for 4 years, unreliable or slow would be a poor show but unreliable and slow is just a joke.

In order to get them on board Honda must have shown Red Bull something that made them think that they could get their act together by 2019, the only thing I can imagine is that they finally admitted they were unable to do the job and have farmed out the design work to someone more competent.

How about a bag of money, filled with enough to cover all costs for 2018/2019 and the promise to buy the team in 2020?

Vic_08

Harika wrote: »

How about a bag of money, filled with enough to cover all costs for 2018/2019 and the promise to buy the team in 2020?

Could be, supposedly Torro Rosso costs the Red Bull group more to run than the main team after prize money and sponsorship costs.

Harika

Vic_08 wrote: »

Could be, supposedly Torro Rosso costs the Red Bull group more to run than the main team after prize money and sponsorship costs.

RedBull is rumored to sell all operations after 2020, here Honda and Aston Martin come in handy.

AMKC

Vic_08 wrote: »

On his 10th power unit and 12th turbo.

Next year the limit before penalties is 3. They have been at this for 4 years, unreliable or slow would be a poor show but unreliable and slow is just a joke.

In order to get them on board Honda must have shown Red Bull something that made them think that they could get their act together by 2019, the only thing I can imagine is that they finally admitted they were unable to do the job and have farmed out the design work to someone more competent.

I was reading a bit about it today.
Next years power unit is going to be the one they are currently using just refined to make more power, be more efficient,reliable etc. That,s what they say anyway.
Its in the latest F1 mag.

Harika wrote: »

How about a bag of money, filled with enough to cover all costs for 2018/2019 and the promise to buy the team in 2020?

Honda have said they have no interest in becoming a works team again so unless something changes in the next few years I can not see that happening.

Burkie1203

Carlos Sainz is one clever man. Bailing out at the right time

boardsuser1

As we know "FIAT" is dropped again.

Who'd bet against Verstappen winning?

Jordan 199

I like the top of Ricciardo's helmet:

MuddyDog

Going to be a very close race judging by P2/P3 times. I'm on Daniel at 20s EW.

Ghost Train

Jordan 199 wrote: »

I like the top of Ricciardo's helmet:

I guess it's to do with day of the dead thing like last year? Although are they able to change the helmet design more than once during the year

http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/formula-one/red-bull-drivers-spirit-day-9141966

blackdog2

That awkward silence when Horner asked Brundle if Hamilton should have been penalised last year for going off in Mexico at turn 1 was gas!

Ghost Train

I guess a fair risk of someone sliding off with the circuit being a bit slippy

Ghost Train

Perez and Alonso doing well.

Vandorne not keeping up with Alonso

Edit: Alonso having some issue with turbo maybe or maybe not

Ghost Train

That's pretty good from Max
Track must suit the car

skipper_G

Vettel improved but still not as quick as Verstappen. His lap was miles quicker than the Ferrari and Mercedes

kopite386

Looks like Torro Rosso were testing out those Honda engines in Quali today
Both drivers out because of engine problems guess they're going to have to get used to that

flazio

Good ear from Ben Edwards, same turbo squeak that took out Gasly in FP3.

Was it just my TV or did Eir Sport 1 fall off air for a couple of minutes?

Ghost Train

kopite386 wrote: »

Looks like Torro Rossi were resting out those Honda engines in Quali today
Both drivers out because of engine problems guess they're going to have to get used to that

I was thinking they might have been targeted by Russian hackers

skipper_G

Verstappen under investigation for blocking Bottas.....oh boy

kopite386

Max being investigated for impeding Bottas ffs - it's not like it's affects anything, Bottas could have went again rather than going straight to garage ?

Itssoeasy

skipper_G wrote: »

Verstappen under investigation for blocking Bottas.....oh boy

Whats the dutch for "you can't be ****ing serious"

Itssoeasy

Sebastian Vettel pulled a lap of the bag there.

kopite386

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Whats the dutch for "you can't be ****ing serious"

Je kan niet serieus zijn - that's without the f**king in it though

skipper_G

Mercs not looking great but maybe the race pace will be more competitive. Stark contrast between teammates at Ferrari, Red Bull and Force India.

Some job from Ocon to get in front of Ricciardo

Ghost Train

Wonder will there be a penalty for Max. I suppose it's quite likely

Top Dog

Missed qualy - what happened Gasly? F1 site says "Q1 107% Time - 1:22.944 Note - Gasly failed to set a time within the Q1 107% requirement, races at stewards' discretion"

Did he set any time?

kopite386

Top Dog wrote: »

Missed qualy - what happened Gasly? F1 site says "Q1 107% Time - 1:22.944 Note - Gasly failed to set a time within the Q1 107% requirement, races at stewards' discretion"

Did he set any time?

No he didn't set a time, engine problem with his car

Ghost Train

Wonder are Toro Rosso going to suffer with two new drivers, they've sort of lost any benchmark or somebody who knows how the car should feel

kopite386

No further action against Verstappen
https://twitter.com/F1/status/924395659020652544

AMKC

Wow that was some lap from Vettel and Max set a great lap too. Don,t think he deserves a penalty he done no wrong so hoping the stewards do not give him one. Great to see a couple of cars ahead of Hamilton. Hope its a good race tomorrow.

Ghost Train

It good that no penalty, hopefully good battle for the win tomorrow

Jeff2

Watching on +1

Should be fun race.
I got to avoid news to watch it on c4 but all good.

the_pen_turner

kopite386 wrote: »

No further action against Verstappen
https://twitter.com/F1/status/924395659020652544

it has to be no penalty . where was he supposed to go. he is as far off line as he can get and still be on the track. he didn't stop bottas from seeing or breaking for the corner and didn't cause him to lock up

Sparks43

No penalty imho

Cookie_Monster

So what of the revelation from Bernie the FIA does indeed stand for Ferrari International Assistance?

I'm surprised about the lack of impact such a statement has had, I would have thought it's finally confirmed what most people would have thought but been some pretty serious outcomes, but it's been pretty quiet.

Rossi IRL

Can't wait for tonight's race. I can see there being fireworks between the top 4.

If the Renault engine lasts then I can see Ricciardo causing Hamilton alot of problems.

As long as the 2 boyos up front don't wreck again on the start then it will be a cracker of a race

Spudman_20000

Is anyone else really enjoying Ocon putting it up to Perez this season? Perez trying to run him off the road a couple of times this season hasn't worked, and I'm enjoying listening to Perez asking the team to let him by Ocon.

boardsuser1

Listening to Sky yesterday and they made a point of note.

If Hamilton finishes the remaining races, he will be only the second person since 1962 after Michael Schumacher (2002) to finish every race of the season.

The only difference between then and now is Schumacher finished every race on the podium and has a 100% podium finish rate from that year.

skipper_G

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

So what of the revaluation from Bernie the FIA does indeed stand for Ferrari International Assistance?

I'm surprised about the lack of impact such a statement has had, I would have thought it's finally confirmed what most people would have thought but been some pretty serious outcomes, but it's been pretty quiet.

You mean the comments made by an old man in his last desperate attempt to be relevant one more time? I'm not sure comments from Bernie classify as any kind of confirmation. As much as I enjoy bashing Ferrari i'm going to assume he was talking crap.

boardsuser1

Chase Carey is Irish?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chase_Carey

skipper_G

Spudman_20000 wrote: »

Is anyone else really enjoying Ocon putting it up to Perez this season? Perez trying to run him off the road a couple of times this season hasn't worked, and I'm enjoying listening to Perez asking the team to let him by Ocon.

I'm enjoying the battle between them but they have both been over the edge at times and it took the incidents in Spa for the team to finally lay down the law. They should have done it immediately after Baku. And don't forget it was Ocon who caused that one and ruined a chance of a podium for the team.

Joeface

If Ocon finishes ahead of Perez at the end of the season he really should be up for Driver of the year. Seriously good first full season.

Harika

Joeface wrote: »

If Ocon finishes ahead of Perez at the end of the season he really should be up for Driver of the year. Seriously good first full season.

Another season like this and he might be in a Mercedes.

boardsuser1

Harika wrote: »

Another season like this and he might be in a Mercedes.

The 2019 Mercedes Driver lineup will be changed.

Bottas is only a stop gap!

Joeface

What is the actual race start time

kopite386

Joeface wrote: »

What is the actual race start time

7pm

skipper_G

Ricciardo took a new combustion unit so has a grid penalty. Seen it reported on motorsport.com

Rossi IRL

skipper_G wrote: »

Ricciardo took a new combustion unit so has a grid penalty. Seen it reported on motorsport.com

Shame for today's race

LollipopJimmy

A new low for sky, discussing the fact they feel that Lewis would still have been ahead in the championship if Seb was in the second Merc

boardsuser1

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

A new low for sky, discussing the fact they feel that Lewis would still have been ahead in the championship if Seb was in the second Merc

https://youtu.be/mq0CSqivIDg

The TV stations have been sickening when it comes to him.

“Oh no one is better than our Lewis”