Nespresso diwn from €350 to €88 debenhams

craggy2

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sbsquarepants

Damn it, too late!:mad:

CalamariFritti

There's probably a reason for that.

iancm25

CalamariFritti wrote: »

There's probably a reason for that.

Damn. Still on website as €88 but “not available in quantity ordered” (which was 1, although I tried 2 as well!).

Nice spot OP, pity it didn’t work out.

sbsquarepants

Same here.
I even tried the UK site - similar price £80 but out of stock also.
Ah well, it all comes down to timing!

fleet

This is still just an Nespresso machine with off board milk froather.
The same workflow as the very cheapest Nespresso machines have.

No integrated froather, no automatic drink selection... all you get is a larger tank and hot water function (nice, but nothing a €10 kettle doesn't beat).

Worth it for €88, but not much more.

fat bloke

That was a deal alright. Those milk frothers alone are nearly 80 quid.
Though personally I think nespresso should give away free machines given the cost of capsules!

MuffinTop86

it’s 35 or 40c a coffee, that’s actually really good value.

exaisle

I wouldn't buy one for 88cent. I think it's pretentious profiteering crap.
It's just like inkjet printers. The manufacturers reduce the cost of the printer and then screw the consumer on the ink....
Same old same old.

35c or 40c for a coffee is really good value? Oh the boom is back alright.

All of these gadgets will end up in the attic along with the juicers, toasted sandwich makers, spiralizers and smoothie makers

rob316

exaisle wrote: »

I wouldn't buy one for 88cent. I think it's pretentious profiteering crap.
It's just like inkjet printers. The manufacturers reduce the cost of the printer and then screw the consumer on the ink....
Same old same old.

35c or 40c for a coffee is really good value? Oh the boom is back alright.

All of these gadgets will end up in the attic along with the juicers, toasted sandwich makers, spiralizers and smoothie makers

Don't buy one so.

A takeaway coffee is minimum €2 everywhere so it is good value. I use the aldi pods they work out at 17c a cup which is excellent value.

Oafley Jones

fat bloke wrote: »

That was a deal alright. Those milk frothers alone are nearly 80 quid.
Though personally I think nespresso should give away free machines given the cost of capsules!

Nice looking machine, but those milk frothers are fairly poor.

Our experience - which is fairly common - was that it worked for about 6 months and then got incredibly particular if it would work or not. It became super sensitive to temp, milk fat content etc. etc. Nespresso aftersales is excellent and they will replace it, but you're going to end up with the same problem again. Ended up replacing our machine with a Lattissima Plus, which is excellent. There's a newer super expensive Creatista Plus which has a proper steam wand. Both are the only consistent options if you're into latte etc.

Boardnashea

Can I mention the non recyclable waste generated? Banned in a small number of places and hopefully more in future.
It's plunger/french press or aeropress for my brew of choice.

T-Maxx

Enter the usual Nespresso bashers...

rob316

Boardnashea wrote: »

Can I mention the non recyclable waste generated? Banned in a small number of places and hopefully more in future.
It's plunger/french press or aeropress for my brew of choice.

Since I bought one I bought a lot less takeaway coffee's. Coffee cups/lids are non-recyclable too I have been told. Much of much to be honest.

readyletsgo

I've always wanted one of these machines for home tbh. But I just drink black coffee. Not really a fan of milk.

But sometimes I fancy something 'fancy' like a mocha.

Anyone recommend a good machine that can use pods from all markets as apposed to sticking to NEScafe only pods?

Thanks!

Oafley Jones

Boardnashea wrote: »

Can I mention the non recyclable waste generated? Banned in a small number of places and hopefully more in future.
It's plunger/french press or aeropress for my brew of choice.

The capsules are recyclable.

MuffinTop86

readyletsgo wrote: »

I've always wanted one of these machines for home tbh. But I just drink black coffee. Not really a fan of milk.

But sometimes I fancy something 'fancy' like a mocha.

Anyone recommend a good machine that can use pods from all markets as apposed to sticking to NEScafe only pods?

Thanks!

My boyfriend has a really old Nespresso machine that my granny gave him, he’s used the Aldi pods and currently uses the L’Or ones.
I’ve heard it’s meant to break the Nespresso machines but this one works fine.

podgeandrodge

T-Maxx wrote: »

Enter the usual Nespresso bashers...

You can't beat real bean to cup for coffee shop quality. Let's face it, nespresso is not the same.

This one is a steal and makes great americano and has a frother too.

https://www.amazon.de/gp/aw/d/B00400OMU0/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅZÕÑ&qid=1508406257&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=delonghi+magnifica+s+ecam+22.110.b&dpPl=1&dpID=41pid83q8YL&ref=plSrch

CeilingFly

MuffinTop86 wrote: »

My boyfriend has a really old Nespresso machine that my granny gave him, he’s used the Aldi pods and currently uses the L’Or ones.
I’ve heard it’s meant to break the Nespresso machines but this one works fine.

The older compatible capsules had issues but all seem to be fine now.

deadanonymau5

craggy2 wrote: »

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Out of curiosity what model was this? Link shows nothing now

bk

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Nice looking machine, but those milk frothers are fairly poor.

Our experience - which is fairly common - was that it worked for about 6 months and then got incredibly particular if it would work or not. It became super sensitive to temp, milk fat content etc. etc. Nespresso aftersales is excellent and they will replace it, but you're going to end up with the same problem again. Ended up replacing our machine with a Lattissima Plus, which is excellent. There's a newer super expensive Creatista Plus which has a proper steam wand. Both are the only consistent options if you're into latte etc.

That is due to the fat content changing based on the time of year, basically a result of are cows out in the fields eating grass or in the barns for winter.

I know it sounds weird, but true. I found switching to semi-fat milk during the winter months resolved frothing issues.

srsly78

MuffinTop86 wrote: »

My boyfriend has a really old Nespresso machine that my granny gave him, he’s used the Aldi pods and currently uses the L’Or ones.
I’ve heard it’s meant to break the Nespresso machines but this one works fine.

The machines don't last long anyway, pump on mine got really weak after about a year. Now have a bean-to-cup machine (amazon e200), nespresso is inferior.

Oafley Jones

bk wrote: »

That is due to the fat content changing based on the time of year, basically a result of are cows out in the fields eating grass or in the barns for winter.

I know it sounds weird, but true. I found switching to semi-fat milk during the winter months resolved frothing issues.

Worked in a dairy science lab and for my sins had to input the results of thousands of milk samples in my time. Those frothers really shouldn’t be so inconsistent given the fractional differences in the milk.

bk

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Worked in a dairy science lab and for my sins had to input the results of thousands of milk samples in my time. Those frothers really shouldn’t be so inconsistent given the fractional differences in the milk.

I know right, but I had one of these Nespresso frothers for a few years and the same would happen around the same time every year!

BTW I've a lovely Delonghi Bean to Cup machine now

fleet

T-Maxx wrote: »

Enter the usual Nespresso bashers...

Definitely not bashing Nespresso machines.

They're one of the most efficient ways to get an espresso.
A little expensive per shot, and you're restricted to whatever capsules are available, but that's minor really.

The build quality of the machines is usually excellent; there's a Magimix/official Nespresso brand (same factory) one here in the office that brews 50-60 capsules per day, year in, year out, same €100 machine.

My gripe was with the "fancy" Nespresso machines that rely on the same standard milk froather as the cheapest ones. Makes no sense. The coffee is identical from all the machines, so at the very least the milk froather should be the professional wand type seen on any traditional machine.
The jug type agitator is average at best.

Enrico Palazzo

deadanonymau5 wrote: »

Out of curiosity what model was this? Link shows nothing now

Magimix 11380

Tazium

Will Nespresso start to phase out these machines now in favor of their new locked in brewers?  The new capsules require a new machine and the capsules contain barcodes that are read to provide the optimum output.  Also.... stops 3rd party capsules.  https://www.nespresso.com/ie/vertuo-coffee-redefined

exaisle

rob316 wrote: »

Don't buy one so.

A takeaway coffee is minimum €2 everywhere so it is good value. I use the aldi pods they work out at 17c a cup which is excellent value.

Don't worry, I won't.

You're comparing a takeaway coffee with a home-made one. The cost of takeaway coffee is irrelevant because you're not comparing like with like. You're also ignoring the cost of the machine. You don't have to buy the machine when you pay for a takeaway coffee but you do if you make it at home. You're paying for the cup, the water, the energy to heat it and to pressurise it...you're paying to wash the cup...you're paying to dispose of the used pods... etc etc. 17c my ar$e!

Just because you pay 17c for something doesn't mean it's good value. It just means it appears cheap. You're getting shafted paying over the odds for your coffee.

Consider also the plastic rubbish generated from these abhorrent machines...the millions of tons of waste..and the waste from takeaway coffee cups too...especially the plastic lids.

Believe me....these machines are just a fad..and a way for coffee suppliers to maximise their profits. There's a certain snobbery and pretentiousness about coffee in the same way as there is with wine and most people can't tell the difference anyhow. It's the emperor's new clothes. Really. The machines will, in time, end up beside the toasted sandwich and smoothie makers....in landfill...and their gullible owners will move on to the next big thing.

Melendez

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Boardnashea

T-Maxx wrote: »

Enter the usual Nespresso coffee pod bashers...

FYP

bk

Personally I've moved onto a Bean to Cup machine, however I found Nespresso excellent when I used it and the odd time I still use it when visiting family.

It gives you a really good, nice tasting Espresso, in a very easy to do manner. If you like espresso then they are a really nice option. If you don't like espresso then obviously no point to them.

BTW most high end restaurants, including most Michelin Star restaurants use Nespresso machines to make their coffee, as it gives a very good consistent espresso. It definitely isn't just some fad.

Having said that, I am glad I've moved onto a bean machine.

fleet

fleet wrote: »

The coffee is identical from all the machines

I thought this was the case too and I'm not saying that the most expensive machine will be better than a less expensive one at every price point but I have a nespresso Innisia at home and a nespresso "U" at work and while both make very nice coffee the one at work does make it noticeably nicer. I think there is a pressure difference between the models which is what masks the difference.

colm_mcm

Could there be a difference in the water? Or maybe your one needs to be descaled?

ct5amr2ig1nfhp

Well spotted OP. Going to keep an eye on the website in case any come back in stock.

The amount of BS being spouted in this thread is incredible.

Boardnashea wrote: »

Can I mention the non recyclable waste generated?

As mentioned already, Nespresso pods are recyclable.

exaisle wrote: »

Believe me....these machines are just a fad.

Definition
/fad/: an intense and widely shared enthusiasm for something, especially one that is short-lived; a craze

*yawn*
I have had my nespresso machine for 10 years. That's some "fad".

exaisle wrote: »

I think it's pretentious profiteering crap.
It's just like inkjet printers. The manufacturers reduce the cost of the printer and then screw the consumer on the ink....
Same old same old.

35c or 40c for a coffee is really good value? Oh the boom is back alright.

All of these gadgets will end up in the attic along with the juicers, toasted sandwich makers, spiralizers and smoothie makers

I presume you typed your post from your iPhone X? :rolleyes:

exaisle

Kaysen Full Crystal wrote: »

The amount of BS being spouted in this thread is incredible.
<snip>
As mentioned already, Nespresso pods are recyclable.
<snip>
I presume you typed your post from your iPhone X? :rolleyes:

The amount of BS being spouted in this thread is inedible. :-)

Nespresso pods are, indeed recyclable. But they don't give you a credit for each pod returned, so there's no financial incentive to do so and it's hard to see many people going to the trouble of taking them to a Parcel Motel... It's just as easy to bung them in the bin. It's just a guess, but I'd say that the vast majority of coffee pods manufactured end up in landfill. And that's shameful.

And for those who prefer to use Aldi and Lidl nespresso-compatible pods?
Are they recyclable too?

I presume you typed your post from behind a mound of used coffee pods....

colm_mcm

colm_mcm wrote: »

Could there be a difference in the water? Or maybe your one needs to be descaled?

My one is much newer than the one at work and has been the same since it was bought (my parents have the same machine less than 2 months old and its the same too), the work one is in very heavy use and hasn't be descaled ever I reckon (its on the go for around 3 years at this stage) so its not that need of cleaning anyway. Water I doubt it really, if anything the water is better where I live than at work though I will try bottled water in both for a direct comparison. The water in my parents is also very different (different part of the county) and the coffee is the same as my machine.

I don't make espressos with it, I heat milk and run a coffee into the milk then essentially making a latte. Its hard to describe but essentially there is a slightly different flavour and a difference in the consistency of the drink. Also I use original nespresso pods and the same flavour in both.

podgeandrodge

bk wrote: »

Personally I've moved onto a Bean to Cup machine, however I found Nespresso excellent when I used it and the odd time I still use it when visiting family.

It gives you a really good, nice tasting Espresso, in a very easy to do manner. If you like espresso then they are a really nice option. If you don't like espresso then obviously no point to them.

Having said that, I am glad I've moved onto a bean machine.

So DeLonghi ( which I also have) or nespresso (also have) - I think DeLonghi is the clear winner. Not saying that nespresso is bad, but can't be compared to bean to cup. Surprised Michelin restaurants would do that, I wouldn't think the quality was sufficient for those restaurants, but then if George drinks it...

Oafley Jones

podgeandrodge wrote: »

So DeLonghi ( which I also have) or nespresso (also have) - I think DeLonghi is the clear winner. Not saying that nespresso is bad, but can't be compared to bean to cup. Surprised Michelin restaurants would do that, I wouldn't think the quality was sufficient for those restaurants, but then if George drinks it...

It’s consistent, that’s the key for them. Its not unusual for even three star restaurants to use nespresso.

mrcheez

Nespresso got me hooked on caffeine...nuff said.

I drank coffee sparingly before the nespresso arrived at work.

jive

Oafley Jones wrote: »

It’s consistent, that’s the key for them. Its not unusual for even three star restaurants to use nespresso.

Nobody goes to Michelin star restaurants for coffee, though. It's consistent but it's just 'ok' tasting coffee. I'd say the convenience factor is the major reason why any restaurant would use it, same as why everyone else uses it really.

Nespresso a good bit better than instant coffee with very little extra effort, if any. It's nowhere near as good as a proper home espresso machine but it's waaaay more convenient.

mrcheez

Nespresso is on par with 90% of bean to cup machines (and in many cases superior) I've tried, and I've tried a lot.

Quite remarkable achievement.

Personally id rate a coffee I tried in Ethiopia as the best though, but for flavour I'd still choose nespresso given the choice between a bean to cup or nespresso.

bk

With Bean To Cup machines, it of course depends on what beans you use. Use cheap beans and it is only ok, use good beans and it is great. Also how you store your beans and how fresh they are is important too.

I find Nespresso gives you a coffee that is some where in the middle of the above range. Much better then cheap beans in a Bean to Cup machine, but not quiet as good as freshly roasted, high quality beans.

Thing is a Nepresso pod costs 40 cent.
A 1kg bag of cheap beans (€12) would work out at 6 cent per shot
A 1kg bag of good beans (~€22) would work out at 11 cent per shot

Note above based on the same per gram size, in reality most bean machines use a bit more coffee per shot, so would be a little high cost per shot (probably 10 cent and 20 cent above).

So either way you will definitely save money moving to a bean machine and potentially better coffee. But I also get the attractiveness of the ease and consistency of a Nespresso machine.

mirrorwall14

bk wrote: »

With Bean To Cup machines, it of course depends on what beans you use. Use cheap beans and it is only ok, use good beans and it is great. Also how you store your beans and how fresh they are is important too.

I find Nespresso gives you a coffee that is some where in the middle of the above range. Much better then cheap beans in a Bean to Cup machine, but not quiet as good as freshly roasted, high quality beans.

Thing is a Nepresso pod costs 40 cent.
A 1kg bag of cheap beans (€12) would work out at 6 cent per shot
A 1kg bag of good beans (~€22) would work out at 11 cent per shot

Note above based on the same per gram size, in reality most bean machines use a bit more coffee per shot, so would be a little high cost per shot (probably 10 cent and 20 cent above).

So either way you will definitely save money moving to a bean machine and potentially better coffee. But I also get the attractiveness of the ease and consistency of a Nespresso machine.

I got my nespresso machine on sale for around 90e. Bean to cup machines appear to be incredibly expensive by comparison. I’m a one cup a day person so I just can justify the outlay on a bean to cup. And I imagine the beans would be drying out at that level of use?

bk

mirrorwall14 wrote: »

I got my nespresso machine on sale for around 90e. Bean to cup machines appear to be incredibly expensive by comparison. I’m a one cup a day person so I just can justify the outlay on a bean to cup. And I imagine the beans would be drying out at that level of use?

Yep, at just one coffee a day, your Nespresso is probably perfect for your needs. My sister and parents use Nespresso machines for the same reason.

I'm up to three cups a day, usually double shots, plus the other half and visiting family, I'm probably looking at 10 shots a day, at that level, Bean machines easily pay for themselves.

BTW you can pick up entry level bean to cup machines for €200, so they aren't that expensive, but as you say your issue would simply be beans going off. The nice thing about Nespresso is you don't have that issue.

I think Nespresso is great for many people like yourself. It makes a very decent espresso, very consistent and very convenient and easy to use. They are a good option for casual coffee drinkers who want quick and easy.

jones

Snapping I missed this I need one for work. Can't see it anywhere for anything close to this price

Jay_Cee1985

Anybody ever used effectivemart.com? Looks too good to be true

tedpan

Jay_Cee1985 wrote:

Anybody ever used effectivemart.com? Looks too good to be true

One of the dodgiest sites I've ever seen! Complete scam unfortunately

sbsquarepants

bk wrote: »

BTW you can pick up entry level bean to cup machines for €200, so they aren't that expensive, but as you say your issue would simply be beans going off. The nice thing about Nespresso is you don't have that issue.
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The major issue I have with nespresso is the damn size of the drink you end up with. I don't want a dainty little childs cup, I want a big hairy arsed builders mug full, a bucket with a handle on the side.

On the adds the new vertuo machines seem like they make a decent sized cup but I haven't seen one in the flesh so I'm not too sure. Has anyone got one of these?

sillysocks

sbsquarepants wrote: »

The major issue I have with nespresso is the damn size of the drink you end up with. I don't want a dainty little childs cup, I want a big hairy arsed builders mug full, a bucket with a handle on the side.

On the adds the new vertuo machines seem like they make a decent sized cup but I haven't seen one in the flesh so I'm not too sure. Has anyone got one of these?

You can program the old machines to make any size cup you want. And then it's just down to picking stronger coffees if you want a bigger cup, and I think even they make capsules designed for larger cups.

sbsquarepants

I have one of those - even the strongest ones aren't great if you make something the size of a tea cup say. A proper mug you need two capsules for though. I only like my coffee strongish, not like treacle or anything! If it was instant coffee I'd put 2 heaped teaspoons in for example.

bk

sbsquarepants wrote: »

The major issue I have with nespresso is the damn size of the drink you end up with. I don't want a dainty little childs cup, I want a big hairy arsed builders mug full, a bucket with a handle on the side.

On the adds the new vertuo machines seem like they make a decent sized cup but I haven't seen one in the flesh so I'm not too sure. Has anyone got one of these?

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I have one of those - even the strongest ones aren't great if you make something the size of a tea cup say. A proper mug you need two capsules for though. I only like my coffee strongish, not like treacle or anything! If it was instant coffee I'd put 2 heaped teaspoons in for example.

Thing is, if you want to make great big cups of coffee, then you aren't drinking espresso. Espresso is a very specific style of coffee, it is a small, strong shot of espresso that you either drink as is or add shots to a milk drink to make a Latte, etc. And Nepresso excels at making those, it is what it is designed for.

What you are looking for is more American style drip coffee. This is what gives you a big mug of coffee or as Italians like to say, coffee flavoured tea

https://uponatimeitaly.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/american-coffee-espresso-italian-caffe/

You can sort of make a Caffe Americano for a Nespresso machine, but you aren't really making either a good espresso or a good drip coffee then. You really need to use the right tool for the job.

As you say, the Nespresso Vertuo machines were specifically designed for the US market and for people who like those big style of mugs of coffee. I've no idea if they are any good, you could check them out in the Nespresso store or Brown Thomas/Arnotts probably.