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Words change their meaning when you get inside an airport.

  • 14-10-2017 12:48am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭


    Is anyone else annoyed at the way simple words have a different meaning when used in relation to air travel?

    “Boarding” means that the inbound plane is over the Irish Sea.
    “Gate Closing” means that the inbound plane has landed.
    “Final Call” means that boarding will begin in a half hour or so?
    "Enjoy your flight"? Yea - right.

    Are there any others?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 352 ✭✭jasT1981


    Slight delay - you're flying with Ryanair, you're screwed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Not as much annoyance, but amusement whenever a gate has announced that they are "paging" someone.

    "KLM FLight 111 is paging Mr. Joe Bloggs. Mr. Bloggs to the gate please"

    The immediate response in my head is: "Good luck with that...he probably left is pager back in 1987. Better off sending him an SMS :D"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭Noxegon


    One specific to a certain well known middle-eastern carrier – "we will be landing shortly" means that "we're now overhead Amsterdam".

    I develop Superior Solitaire when I'm not procrastinating on boards.ie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭john boye


    "Coffee" often seems to mean a strange vaguely brown water


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,414 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Never ever greet your friend Jack with the word "Hi"

    This too shall pass.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    Nothing in the airport is "da bomb"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Years ago I gave up expecting truth in airports.
    I now expect the worst and in a strange way it's led to a much less stressful experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 452 ✭✭__..__


    "sit back relax and enjoy the flight".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    "Gate closing" on the boarding card means the time the gate will open if the incoming flight is on time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    15 minute boarding delay = maybe 30-40 minutes and no update for passengers.
    “Boarding” means that the inbound plane is over the Irish Sea.

    In some places you wouldn't see that word, goes straight to final call!

    Ready for Boarding = been stuck on steps or air bridge for 10 minutes...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭term


    Departure time is when the doors closed, not when the wheels left the ground.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,064 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    "Taxiing" doesn't mean moving, it means 20 minutes sitting in a long queue of planes without any information from the cockpit as to how many planes are in front of us or how long we may be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    term wrote: »
    Departure time is when the doors closed, not when the wheels left the ground.

    Is it not when the plane is pushed back from the gate? I believe if the plane sits there with the doors closed, it has not yet 'departed'.

    I think that's how it works according to Flightradar24.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,287 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    coylemj wrote: »
    Is it not when the plane is pushed back from the gate? I believe if the plane sits there with the doors closed, it has not yet 'departed'.

    I think that's how it works according to Flightradar24.

    FR24 quotes actual take off and landing times, and compares them with scheduled departure/arrival times, which are two completely different things.

    Departure and arrival times to me are the times an aircraft pushes back off stand and arrives on stand and engines shut down.

    It is comparing apples and oranges.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,624 ✭✭✭✭coylemj


    LXFlyer wrote: »
    FR24 quotes actual take off and landing times, and compares them with scheduled departure/arrival times, which are two completely different things.

    I never suggested otherwise.
    LXFlyer wrote: »
    Departure and arrival times to me are the times an aircraft pushes back off stand and arrives on stand and engines shut down.

    Which matches what I said if we take 'gate' and 'stand' to mean the same thing......
    coylemj wrote: »
    Is it not when the plane is pushed back from the gate? I believe if the plane sits there with the doors closed, it has not yet 'departed'.

    I'm not sure why you quoted my post - do we disagree on something :confused:


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Departure, now there's a challenge. A long time ago, it was SOP for some American operators to check with the push back team that the tug was connected, and the chocks clear, and if they were, the brakes were released, even if they were going to be on stand for quite some time, as their systems recognised Brakes off and sent the relevant message to their flight operations department (presumably via ACARS), which meant they were "in the clear" regarding delays. The fact that there might still be a period of time before they got the clearance to push was not a factor. In some cases, the brakes were off even though there were still last minute bags, buggys etc to go in the rear hold and the belt loader to be removed, and on one occasion, the high loader was still putting bags into the rear hold, but "the system" was happy because they were "on time".

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,287 ✭✭✭✭LXFlyer


    @Coylemj

    No - I was merely expanding on it and pointing out the fact that people should be aware of those idiosyncratic facets when looking at FR24.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,613 ✭✭✭server down


    Rawr wrote: »
    Not as much annoyance, but amusement whenever a gate has announced that they are "paging" someone.

    "KLM FLight 111 is paging Mr. Joe Bloggs. Mr. Bloggs to the gate please"

    The immediate response in my head is: "Good luck with that...he probably left is pager back in 1987. Better off sending him an SMS :D"

    Paging was used before pagers. It meant summoning over a public address system


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Paging was used before pagers. It meant summoning over a public address system

    I had an inkling that it probably meant something like that :) Thank you for confirming.

    I my head I can't help but still compare this verb to a pocket pager :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭kurtainsider


    "In the unlikely event of landing on water life jackets may be found....."

    It should be:
    "In the unlikely event of anyone surviving a landing on water life jackets may be found....."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,431 ✭✭✭✭smurfjed


    and if they were, the brakes were released, even if they were going to be on stand for quite some time, as their systems recognised Brakes off and sent the relevant message to their flight operations department (presumably via ACARS), 
    It also helps when one is paid by block time.
    Rawr said:
    Not as much annoyance, but amusement whenever a gate has announced that they are "paging" someone


    Our onboard PA system is labelled PAGE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,204 ✭✭✭PukkaStukka


    "In the unlikely event of landing on water life jackets may be found....."

    It should be:
    "In the unlikely event of anyone surviving a landing on water life jackets may be found....."

    Expanding a little further on that, you are also supplied with a whistle to attract attention. Now, if everyone is fortunate enough to survive and use their whistles, the ensuing racket will be reminiscent of something from One Man and his Dog :)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,218 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    "In the unlikely event of landing on water life jackets may be found....."

    It should be:
    "In the unlikely event of anyone surviving a landing on water life jackets may be found....."

    Expanding a little further on that, you are also supplied with a whistle to attract attention. Now, if everyone is fortunate enough to survive and use their whistles, the ensuing racket will be reminiscent of something from One Man and his Dog :)

    The whistle also has to mentioned in the safety demonstration or video, maybe the regulator was inspired by James Cameron’s Titanic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭xper


    Go To Gate = Time for a swift one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭kurtainsider


    xper wrote: »
    Go To Gate = Time for a swift one

    or two


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    Priority passengers may board now = you may stand on the stairs down to the door for 15 minutes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Rawr


    xper wrote: »
    Go To Gate = Time for a swift one

    Gate Closing = Gate not open yet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,368 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Gate closed = boarding commencing (have been greeted with this at DUB once or twice before)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,802 ✭✭✭✭Ted_YNWA


    Rawr wrote: »
    Gate Closing = Gate not open yet

    More like the plane you will be boarding is on the final approach for landing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭Bazzy


    "In the unlikely event of landing on water life jackets may be found....."

    It should be:
    "In the unlikely event of anyone surviving a landing on water life jackets may be found....."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭kurtainsider


    Bazzy wrote: »

    Thanks for supporting my point Bazzy. It was such an unlikely outcome that they made a movie about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Dr. Kenneth Noisewater


    Travelator = Somewhere for you to stand and hold up other people so you don't have to bother your fat hole walking


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