Hey Leo? Why do I bother getting up in the morning?

__..__

Hey Leo?
Why the fcukndonI bother getting up in the morning. People who don't get up get more than me in the budget.
Well?
Leo?
Are you even up yet Leo?

The_Valeyard

Im up and i wish i wasnt. Too early.

Omackeral

__..__ wrote: »

Hey Leo?
Why the fcukndonI bother getting up in the morning. People who don't get up get more than me in the budget.
Well?
Leo?
Are you even up yet Leo?

You address him by his proper title you little bollocks.

uck51js9zml2yt

I've been up since 1:30 am Irish time, had breakfast band calculated my budget increase.
€1 per week better off.
That will definitely buy the shoes for the kids!!
Good news is, Leo and Pascal get a bigger increase as they probably got to bed after I was up:)

Jim Bob Scratcher

When Leo mentioned early risers he was talking about the morning horn. He's probably bumming as we speak while you go out and pay his 20,000 rise and his buddies 5,000 rise.



Mod: Short holiday taken

myshirt

Jim Bob Scratcher wrote: »

When Leo mentioned early risers he was talking about the morning horn. He's probably bumming as we speak while you go out and pay his 20,000 rise and his buddies 5,000 rise.

Ah, the mystery of morning wood, did they ever figure out why that occurs?

Jawgap

Probably be about a fiver a week better off, or about the same increase as I'd get if I was getting the dole.......not much opportunity in the "Republic of Opportunity"

......and yes I'm up early and already at work.

Jim Bob Scratcher

myshirt wrote: »

Ah, the mystery of morning wood, did they ever figure out why that occurs?

It's a west Brit thing, you wouldn't understand

worded

Beware the hissing goose with no money left at the end of a month ....

Now off to work with you


http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2017/10/01/beware-the-hissing-goose

myshirt

worded wrote: »

Beware the hissing goose with no money left at the end of a month ....

Now off to work with you


http://www.davidmcwilliams.ie/2017/10/01/beware-the-hissing-goose

Ah that's bullsh't. He who shouts the loudest. Extract as much as you can get away with. That was for a different time and age. We have a more progressive society now. You are taking it out of context.

The only thing he is right on is that baby boomers need to be taxed more, and that inheritance tax should rise so as to ensure wealth is not passed on without being heavily taxed. Too many baby boomers and early gen'x'ers seem to believe any wealth they have is a product entirely of their own effort, and it is theirs to pass on to their kids. It's not. They don't understand economics.

Neon_Lights

You get what you work for though, this entitlement culture is just unbelievable in our country it's just gimmie gimmie gimmie. For all those sitting on €10 an hour, it's not exactly that hard to get into something more lucrative if that's bothering you.

I do feel agrieved with what the politicians spend their taxes on, I see relatively no benefit as the majority goes into plugging debt. Any initiatives that they do spend on do not benefit me, maybe with the exception of roads but I still have to pay tax and tolls on them for what in some areas a road just looks like black swiss cheese.

dr.fuzzenstein

myshirt wrote: »

Ah that's bullsh't. He who shouts the loudest. Extract as much as you can get away with. That was for a different time and age. We have a more progressive society now. You are taking it out of context.

The only thing he is right on is that baby boomers need to be taxed more, and that inheritance tax should rise so as to ensure wealth is not passed on without being heavily taxed. Too many baby boomers and early gen'x'ers seem to believe any wealth they have is a product entirely of their own effort, and it is theirs to pass on to their kids. It's not. They don't understand economics.

OK, so the idea is to destroy wealth when it's handed down to the next generation? Of course, but whose wealth? Will it be the mansions and millions of the rich?
Laughable. What it will be is the few thousand and semi D's of the middle class, forcing another generation into wage slavery.
Right now that's already the case, if a parent with dementia has to go into care you will see a drain of €3k a month, any house or inheritance is quickly gone that way.
The worst thing possible for the government is a wealthy middle class with enough assets and cash so as to not having to enslave themselves in mind crushing jobs and trying to survive on the grind. A middle class with time and money might get silly ideas above their station in regards to business and politics.
Better keep them desperately try to save every penny they have for that €60k deposit of a house that will then be taken off them by inheritance tax that the next gen can't afford, if there is a house left after 10 years in specialist care.
The beautiful side effect of both spouses having to work full time just to pay the bills and trying to put a few grand aside is that they are now liable for a few €€€€ in child care.
An exhausted middle class with all their cash tied up and no time on their hands will keep nice and quiet, because the mere threat of more sh*t raining down on them will make them keep the head down.

McMurphy

I'm fairly left of centre but I know this is a kick in the gonads to the working man and woman.

Why the fook should the people on the dole who don't have to worry about targets, quotas, competitors, courses, customers, lunches, not seeing the kids most of the week, setting the alarm clock, working bloody hard etc etc etc. Get the same (more in many cases) monthly amount for doing diddly squat?

I could see through it if the lads were pandering to vote grab, but I doubt they will see a return in their vote share from their investment.

Leo spoofed to the country with his get up early in the morning spiel.

Between this and the pandering to the Vintners with his "drink is too cheap here bolloxollogy, I'm hoping some people are starting to see through him.

Kermit.de.frog

Neon_Lights wrote: »

I do feel agrieved with what the politicians spend their taxes on, I see relatively no benefit as the majority goes into plugging debt.

That's not true actually.

Rest of your post i have sympathy with though.

Wheeliebin30

The lefties want the wealth to be shared amongst the people who couldn't be arsed listening and working hard in school.

Work hard in school succeed in getting a good job and earn money.

You would like to leave it to your kids when you're gone wouldn't you?

Nope Johnny tracksuit down the road should get it, while your kids struggle and work hard each day.

What a great idea.

Donal55

Rick Shaw wrote: »

I'm fairly left of centre but even I know this is a kick in the gonads to the working man and woman.

Why the fook should the people on the dole who don't have to worry about targets, quotas, competitors, courses, customers, lunches, not seeing the kids most of the week, setting the alarm clock, working bloody hard etc etc etc. Get the same monthly amount for doing diddly squat?

I could see through it if the lads were pandering to vote grab, but I doubt they will see a return in their vote share from their investment.

Leo spoofed to the country with his get up early in the morning spiel.

Leo couldn't win over the members of his own party and also made a cock up of Health and Transport when he was in those Depts also.

Anyone, who believes or believed the soundbites from Leo, really do need their head examined.

Wheeliebin30

Donal55 wrote: »

Leo couldn't win over the members of his own party and also made a cock up of Health and Transport when he was in those Depts also.

Anyone, who believes or believed the soundbites from Leo, really do need their head examined.

Health?

Come on its a poisoned chalice.

Unions will never have it touched.

Kermit.de.frog

Rick Shaw wrote: »

I'm fairly left of centre but I know this is a kick in the gonads to the working man and woman.

Why the fook should the people on the dole who don't have to worry about targets, quotas, competitors, courses, customers, lunches, not seeing the kids most of the week, setting the alarm clock, working bloody hard etc etc etc. Get the same monthly amount for doing diddly squat?

I could see through it if the lads were pandering to vote grab, but I doubt they will see a return in their vote share from their investment.

Leo spoofed to the country with his get up early in the morning .

I suspect it was Fianna Fail that demanded the dole increase.

Stupid policy as it just makes it harder to lower unemployment. Dole should be safety net, not a lifestyle choice.

McMurphy

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

The lefties want the wealth to be shared amongst the people who couldn't be arsed listening and working hard in school.

Work hard in school succeed in getting a good job and earn money.

You would like to leave it to your kids when you're gone wouldn't you?

Nope Johnny tracksuit down the road should get it, while your kids struggle and work hard each day.

What a great idea.

It was FG who kicked the working man in the balls by giving him less for his labour by way of tax cuts, than those who don't have a working man or woman's routine, yet the man on the dole gets more handed to him by way of a dole increase?

You however cry about "lefties?

Wheeliebin30

Rick Shaw wrote: »

It was FG who kicked the working man in the balls by giving him less for his labour by way of tax cuts, than those who don't have a working man or woman's routine, yet the man on the dole gets more handed to him by way of a dole increase?

You however cry about "lefties?

I'm talking about the idea of increasing inheritance tax.

By the way do you know how our current goverment works with fg ff and independents?

Do you think every budget decision gets decided by fg?

That's not how it works. If it was we wouldn't have a government at all.

McMurphy

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

I'm talking about the idea of increasing inheritance tax.

By the way do you know how our current goverment works with fg ff and independents?

Do you think every budget decision gets decided by fg?

That's not how it works. If it was we wouldn't have a government at all.

I'm aware of how a coalition govt works thanks , but the coalition didn't make the "rewarding people who get up early" statement, that was Leo.

Weekly welfare increase is more than what an average worker gets in tax cuts.

All sound bites, zero substance.

Wheeliebin30

Rick Shaw wrote: »

I'm aware of how a coalition govt works thanks , but the coalition didn't make the "rewarding people who get up early" statement, that was Leo.

Weekly welfare increase is more than what an average worker gets in tax cuts.

All sound bites, zero substance.

Judging by your post history you never voted fg in your life, so I don't know why you feel so aggrieved.

Unless you're just blowing a gasket to further your political beliefs personally.

SEPT 23 1989

I wouldn't like to be waking up this morning knowing that I was living on a few hundred quid a week

I thought people would be getting far more animated about the developer bonanza announced yesterday

Wheeliebin30

Most of the money is going on housing and health.

Everyone is screaming about this so called housing crisis.

But once money is directed towards it and not in people's pockets they loose their minds.

Maybe if people stopped swallowing this nonsense about everyone deserves a house by just putting their name on a list their might be more to go around.

Wheeliebin30

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

I wouldn't like to be waking up this morning knowing that I was living on a few hundred quid a week

I thought people would be getting far more animated about the developer bonanza announced yesterday

It's typical though.

People whinge and moan about homelessness, poverty blah blah whatever other myth they swallow.

But once the money has to come from their taxes they go ape ****.

Richard Hillman

Another communist creeping budget. No matter how much they say we are better off, when you look at interest, the time value of money and the rising cost of living, we're still going to be worse off this time next year. They know what they are doing when they "tweak" the tax rates.


And they are still bewildered into why young medical professionals are jumping on the plane in their graduation robes :pac:

nice_guy80

Why do you get up?

probably because the alarm goes off

pjohnson

Surely you guys who whinge so much get up so you can lord it over the common peasants?

elperello

Rick Shaw wrote: »

I'm fairly left of centre but I know this is a kick in the gonads to the working man and woman.

Why the fook should the people on the dole who don't have to worry about targets, quotas, competitors, courses, customers, lunches, not seeing the kids most of the week, setting the alarm clock, working bloody hard etc etc etc. Get the same monthly amount for doing diddly squat?

I could see through it if the lads were pandering to vote grab, but I doubt they will see a return in their vote share from their investment.

Leo spoofed to the country with his get up early in the morning spiel.

Between this and the pandering to the Vintners with his "drink is too cheap here bolloxollogy, I'm hoping some people are starting to see through him.

Any meagre increase in income that ordinary workers get from the budget will be wiped out by MUP if they enjoy a few drinks at home.

__..__

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Judging by your post history you never voted fg in your life, so I don't know why you feel so aggrieved.

Unless you're just blowing a gasket to further your political beliefs personally.

I actually voted for Leo.
Looking for somewhere else to put my.vote for next time now.
What a slap in the face.

Wheeliebin30

__..__ wrote: »

I actually voted for Leo.
Looking for somewhere else to put my.vote for next time now.
What a slap in the face.

Wasn't talking to you.

__..__

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Wasn't talking to you.

Well.i thought I'd throw it out there anyway if you don't mind.

VinLieger

Rick Shaw wrote: »

I'm aware of how a coalition govt works thanks , but the coalition didn't make the "rewarding people who get up early" statement, that was Leo.

Weekly welfare increase is more than what an average worker gets in tax cuts.

All sound bites, zero substance.

Obviously you aren't aware of how it works because right now we don't even have a coalition government, we have a minority FG government supported by FF in opposition.

Wheeliebin30

__..__ wrote: »

Well.i thought I'd throw it out there anyway if you don't mind.

Fire away.

tomwaterford

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

It's typical though.

People whinge and moan about homelessness, poverty blah blah whatever other myth they swallow.

Homelessness and poverty are myths??

jester77

myshirt wrote: »

Ah, the mystery of morning wood, did they ever figure out why that occurs?

When you fall asleep all that blood and rage that is in your head thinking about the government flows down the body and accumulates causing you to wake up with a raging horn. It usually doesn't last long and quickly transfers been to the head once you see the morning news.

Badly Drunk Boy

__..__ wrote: »

Are you even up yet Leo?

I'd say he was because he was on Ireland AM at 7.35. And the poor man was still in the Dáil 'til midnight...

Poor Uncle Tom

So when is this budget you're all yammering on about?........:p

That wasn't a budget, #accountancylite

GhostyMcGhost

Omackeral wrote: »

You address him by his proper title you little bollocks.

Did Leo find the rabbits?

VinLieger

tomwaterford wrote: »

Homelessness and poverty are myths??

SF are actively crowing about more funding for homelessness while at the same time cynically cutting LPT in Dublin by 15%, that's money that would go directly to building houses and helping homeless if it was collected.

They want money but they don't want the money to come from anyone that votes for them.

__..__

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

I'd say he was because he was on Ireland AM at 7.35. And the poor man was still in the Dáil 'til midnight...

Dishing out the bonuses to his new spin team.

tomwaterford

VinLieger wrote: »

SF are actively crowing about more funding for homelessness while at the same time cynically cutting LPT in Dublin by 15%, that's money that would go directly to building houses and helping homeless if it was collected.

They want money but they don't want the money to come from anyone that votes for them.

Why are they cutting it then....if it's gaurenteed to go towards building more houses?

Why is all the rest of the councils around the country not leading the way and ramping up this to solve homelessness outside of dublin??..

Fantastic idea for a tax to be soley used for social housing....how the fcuk is there so many homeless around the country??

Wheeliebin30

tomwaterford wrote: »

Why are they cutting it then....if it's gaurenteed to go towards building more houses?

Why is all the rest of the councils around the country not leading the way and ramping up this to solve homelessness outside of dublin??..

Fantastic idea for a tax to be soley used for social housing....how the fcuk is there so many homeless around the country??

Because most go homeless to jump the list and they won't take a house due to ridiculous reasons, see Erica Fleming.

And there isn't that many homeless.

It's a tiny tiny percent of the population.

One of the lowest in Europe.

seamus

__..__ wrote: »

Hey Leo?
Why the fcukndonI bother getting up in the morning. People who don't get up get more than me in the budget.
Well?
Leo?
Are you even up yet Leo?

So I take that you're handing in your notice this morning, right?

sbsquarepants

myshirt wrote: »

.

The only thing he is right on is that baby boomers need to be taxed more, and that inheritance tax should rise so as to ensure wealth is not passed on without being heavily taxed. Too many baby boomers and early gen'x'ers seem to believe any wealth they have is a product entirely of their own effort, and it is theirs to pass on to their kids. It's not. They don't understand economics.

You seem to have that in common.
Any wealth you may have accrued during your lifetime was already taxed to the hilt - the money you earned was taxed, any stuff you bought with your taxed money was taxed again, if you took your taxed money and invested it - any profits you made were taxed, if you just stuck it in the bank the interest was taxed.
Tax, tax and more tax - yet you reckon it's only right and proper to tax it again should you be lucky enough to die!
And this is for what reason exactly?
To avoid the scourge of hard working parents passing on what little the tax man has left them with, so that their kids might not have it so hard?

tomwaterford

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Because most go homeless to jump the list and they won't take a house due to ridiculous reasons, see Erica Fleming.

.

I struggle to believe that tbh....so your saying that most people who are homeless can afford housing (and those complaining about too expensive housing are therefore raving? )??

And that then upon getting housing...the most won't take it??


You know this,how??
(I'm assuming you work in DSP,or a homeless charity?)

__..__

seamus wrote: »

So I take that you're handing in your notice this morning, right?

No. Because I have a mortgage to pay at the end of every month too and property tax to save up for. If I didn't have that I'd hand in my notice tomorrow for sure. I'd get more out of the budget anyway. Oh and I have to pay for a doctor visit yesterday too also the prescription I had to get from the chemist is outstanding on my credit card from yesterday. Have to pay that as well. Pretty sure a lot of people who were up this morning won't be getting a Christmas bonus either.

Hitman3000

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

People whinge and moan about homelessness, poverty blah blah whatever other myth they swallow.

So the homeless crisis is a myth? Jesus wept.

Hitman3000

VinLieger wrote:

They want money but they don't want the money to come from anyone that votes for them.

Don't FG supporters claim it's only scroungers that vote for SF. Not too many scroungers subject to property tax or have you a new defination of scrounger?

Falcon L

Ah lads, will ya keep the noise down a bit. It's a shyte morning and I'm in no hurry to get out of the scratcher. Should you lot not be out earning my Christmas bonus?






Sarcasm, in case someone blows a fuse.

Hitman3000

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

And there isn't that many homeless.

I'm sure the 8000 classed as homeless (including 3000 children) will take comfort in your wise words.