Discovery 1x01 & 1x02 – 2-part premiere [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

Sad Professor

The first two episodes of Star Trek: Discovery are airing/streaming on CBS in the US at 20:30 EST on Sunday night and should available on Irish Netflix from 08:00 Irish time on Monday morning.

This is a 2-part premiere consisting of two episodes:

1x01 – "The Vulcan Hello"
1x02 – "Battle at the Binary Stars"

Warning: This thread will contain spoilers for both episodes. Spoiler tags will not be used, so if you don't want to be spoiled read no further.

Sparks43

Interesting start but not sure on theme

FutureGuy

EDIT: A MASSIVE HEADS UP for anyone who is deciding to take a look at online reviews now that the embargo is up. While they are very positive of the show, the ARE spoiling parts of episode 3 too. It seems like some have failed to recognize we have only seen two episodes.

A very solid opener and an easy 8/10

Some things I expected (they stupidly announced Michelle Yeoh as special guest which means only one thing) and some things I did not - T'Kuvma dying and the Klingon ship getting beheaded.

But overall, a very enjoyable opener and looking forward to seeing where this goes. It's definitely not going in the exact direction I expected but very interested.

Trek is back.

jamesbere

Enjoyable first episodes, unsure where this is leading too which makes the next few episodes exciting to look forward to.

_Kaiser_

Just watched the first 2. Will probably need to rewatch later, but initial thoughts...

- Yes it looks visually stunning, but it IS basically JJ Trek the series in terms of designs and overall feel (right down to the lens flare effects) and combat scenes
- TOS bridge sound effects (and other audio cues) are a nice touch
- The initial bit with Burnham in the space suit is very Spock in TMP

- Burnham and the "death" guy bickering just seems out of place
- Those are not Klingons and Sarek seems wayy too emotional
- WTF was with the court martial.. did someone not pay the ESB bill?

- Also, they give away far too much in the post-episode 2 promo.. just as they did in the original trailers which basically covered the entire 2 episodes


Overall though, I'm not sure about it at all. It was good in parts, but I'm not sure I like the tone/approach they've gone with

FutureGuy

I just realized how jarred I was when the first episode ended. I thought "what the hell is happening to my movie, why is it ended" and then remembered it's a 45-min TV show.

Yggr of Asgard

My initial thought is:

meh

Sure, there are some visually stunning elements in JJ style, some great sound elements (the background music they use in the titles is bad however) and some good performances.

But I just could not get interested into the main character, I did not form a bond, nor am I interested in that character nor do I see why it's such a special character.

IvySlayer

It just feels like JJ-verse again.

The technology is arguably ahead of TNG/DS9. It still makes no sense why its set before TOS, why Sarek is involved.

Holocommunications were just being installed on season 4 of DS9 which is what 100 years ahead? I don't recall verbal communications much in TOS, you always had to touch a panel.

Visually it looks great and I like Lieutenant Commander Saru, I feel like the chemistry and cast are too forced. (The acting in the early series of Star Trek is usually woeful though)

A gritty war with Spocks half-sister, sounds like the worst fanfiction....Can Starfleet give you life imprisonment? And for mutiny? Seriously?

I'll watch the rest of the series but so far its underwhelming for me.

crazyderk

Well nuts to you all, I LOVED it!!!!!!!

it was awesome, I won't hear a bad thing said about it and I will end my statement with this.

STAR TREK IS BACK ON TV WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Overall I enjoyed it. Great cliff hangar at the end of episode 1 but so little happened in episode 2 they could have just made episode 1 an hour long and shown the same story.

Like JJ Abrams Trek and arguably anything Abrams does it is inconsistency and plothole galore so don't go over thinking it or you'll ruin it for yourself.

Also, you can see Abrams finger prints on it by all the borrowing from every other scifi movie/series ever made. Like the "Your video camera didn't record anything so we are going to completely ignore what you said you saw" from Contact. Or the bypassing the shields by beaming warheads onto the ship borrowed by Stargate Atlantis.

For an example of the inconsistencies:

Science Officer: They are beaming up their dead.
...
Burnham: Beam us up!
Science Officer: I can't beam up the captain if there is no life sign.

Err, then how were the klingons beaming up their dead from space?

I enjoyed it. It was a good pilot but the Star Trek porn parody was more true to Star Trek cannon than this was. They could have taken out the starfleet element of it and still made it a decent scifi show. The risk in rewriting events so much is they will alienate firm Trek fans, while not attracting enough non-Trek fans and therefore not gaining enough in the way of ratings to make it viable.

I still hate how the klingons look though.

Evade

It was pretty good overall. The Klingon religious prophecy stuff was very reminicent of that episode of Voyager. Wouldn't the Klingon ship from that episode of Voyager have left around this time period? Are they connected?

The stuff I didn't like mostly tech and visual style related like the JJ Trek viewscreen window. The holographic communicator is pretty anachronistic too since holodecks were pretty new at the start of TNG and holocommunicators didn't come around until the late DS9.

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

- WTF was with the court martial.. did someone not pay the ESB bill?

It looked like a Cardassian court scene.

_Kaiser_

^^ On the transporter thing above, in the flashback when Burnham first comes aboard it's mentioned that the Shenzhou uses an older system. That probably covers that. Also the Klingons use different tech but they were more tractoring the bodies than beaming them in

If you want inconsistencies..

- holo comms decades before DS9
- subspace mind-melds
- Whatever about the ancient Klingon warship, WTF were those other ships? No D5/6/7s?

The Klingon make-up is just wrong IMO and seems to be hampering the actors - seemed very muffled and stilted

_Kaiser_

Evade wrote: »

It looked like a Cardassian court scene.

Completely out of place for the Federation IMO

I think what we have is yet another "gritty" generic sci-fi actioner but with a Star Trek skin.. it's a pity because there were definitely moments with potential.

I lifted this from the Reddit thread ...

Michael may officially be the worst character in this series.
Violates Klingon property and kills notable Klingon figurehead
Yells at Captain on the bridge
When she doesn’t get her way, assaults her mentor and Captain committing mutiny
Immediately yells at Saru for respecting the chain of command
Lying to the bridge crew
And we’re supposed to root for her?

All good points to be fair.. incidentally, the reaction over there is not good.

FutureGuy

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

^^ On the transporter thing above, in the flashback when Burnham first comes aboard it's mentioned that the Shenzhou uses an older system. That probably covers that. Also the Klingons use different tech but they were more tractoring the bodies than beaming them in

If you want inconsistencies..

- holo comms decades before DS9
- subspace mind-melds
- Whatever about the ancient Klingon warship, WTF were those other ships? No D5/6/7s?

The Klingon make-up is just wrong IMO and seems to be hampering the actors - seemed very muffled and stilted

While I enjoyed it, these two points annoyed me a little.

I have no problems about Sarek and Burnham using holotech to communicate privately. She may have been gifted some technology by Sarek which is Vulcan. But then we see it's very common place across multiple ships and multiple species. That is an issue.

Also, the subspace mind-meld was completely out of nowhere. I guess it was the same when Spock suddenly came out of nowhere with the ability to imprint his kotra on Bones on TWoK and we also see that Vulcans also have telepathy in Voyager.

Funnily enough, of the two, it's the holotransmissions that are more problematic. I am perfectly comfortable with this being a visual reboot, but we know that holotransmissions are not commonplace for over 120 years.

_Kaiser_

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

^^ On the transporter thing above, in the flashback when Burnham first comes aboard it's mentioned that the Shenzhou uses an older system. That probably covers that. Also the Klingons use different tech but they were more tractoring the bodies than beaming them in

If you want inconsistencies..

- holo comms decades before DS9
- subspace mind-melds
- Whatever about the ancient Klingon warship, WTF were those other ships? No D5/6/7s?

The Klingon make-up is just wrong IMO and seems to be hampering the actors - seemed very muffled and stilted

In another thread someone asked me to explain the inconsistencies I saw. One example I gave was the Coms Officer saying he was hailing starfleet on all bands and getting no reply, then the scene switches to the Captain in a holo conference with the Admiral.

On the Klingon warships, they've obviously completely rebooted the Klingons keeping only the language so that explains that, but if they are going to completely change a key race, why not just create a new race. Set it after DS9, introduce this new warrior race and let war commense with all the new tech.

And yeah, sub-space Jedi-like mind-melds. Is there anything those Vulcans can't do?

degrassinoel

don't like michael

Hope it's not all about her, she's a crap actor by trek standards.

Also, wish the klingons would have stayed true to their TNG origins - whatshisname the forgetful was a good idea done wrong imo

i'll keep watching but yeah, it's pretty much on a par with the orville for me atm

James Brown

I haven't seen the second one, so I lightly skimmed the thread. Apologies if already covered.

I think the new look Klingons are pretty bad ass. I did like the way Deep Space 9 had the story about how the Klingons had had some virus or whatever and that's why they looked like poorly dressed Mexican Bandits from the late 1800's back in the Kirk days of the Original series.
I like the first officer perspective too. I think it may succeed where Enterprise failed, in being a more gritty less Mormon Federation. Mutiny in the first episode is pretty good. Also casting Michelle Yeoh as the captain, (however short lived it may be) gave a great dynamic to it.
The opening credits look like an episode of House, but so far so good.

Venom

These two episodes just left me feeling kinda meh.

Didn't like the show's intro. Dunno know what it is but it felt more like something you'd see in a teaser trailer rather than a show's actual intro.

The show's visuals are really very well done but the level of tech shown along with the pre Kirk setting, just feels wrong and out of place with the established lore of previous shows. The whole JJ Trek look but prime universe setting just seems a mess.

As for the new Klingons, WTF were they thinking? Why totally ret con such an established in lore race?

The Federation crew so far were just filler apart from Michael who's a dick and the alien dude who could be interesting down the line.

While this show is not as bad as I feared considering the production woes, I just don't see why it exists.

JayRoc

Postives first: I certainly enjoyed it more than I expected to (but to be fair I went in expecting to hate it). Pace was decent, I didn't find myself clock-watching. Set pieces were visually very impressive.

Oh, and I actually quite liked the theme tune, especially the beginning and end.

Negatives: not to sound like a broken record, but this would have been so much more enjoyable if it wasn't a pre-TOS prequel. Every couple of minutes I was wrenched out of "suspension of disbelief" by something else that looked ludicrously more advanced than stuff that's supposed to be years in the future. Tonally this is the biggest obstacle for me, and specific inconsistencies such as ship design and communications methods have already been highlighted by several others.

The "klingons" didn't really do it for me. Apart from the obvious problems with reimagining a race that's one of the most popular elements of TOS/TNG, they looked really clunky. The prosthetics were so over-the-top that the actors looked and sounded daft, like they were trying to act in a sumo suit with a ball of cotton wool in their mouth.

And the court martial scene was ****ing ridiculous. Turn on a light, lads.


All in all, better than I thought. If it was a standalone sci-fi series it'd be fine. Just doesn't feel like Trek.

Sparko

It was certainly different, which could be a good thing in the long run. I'll continue watching anyway.

The holo communication was a bit jarring but I'll get over it, I guess in theory they could come up with some reason why it disappears until DS9 - faulty firmware or something!

Klingons are just bizarre, I was holding out hope that these particular ones were just a subspecies we'd never seen before but it seems they all look like that now.

I recall Trip and T'Pol having a long distance psychic connection in Enterprise so there's some precedent I guess for Sarek and Michael.

Like I said, I'll keep watching. Was quite entertaining, just perhaps not very Trekky. I was surprised there was no sighting of the Discovery yet.

AMKC

Does not sound like Star Trek at all. I think I will stay watching proper Star Trek and watch this if it gets better. Sounds like it could have been great if they had just set it in the 25th century then they could have had all this new tech and subspace mind melds etc and no one would mind. Hell even the Discovery and the other ships could have been the same sort of styles just neither and cleaner and more futuristic.

_Kaiser_

AMKC wrote: »

Does not sound like Star Trek at all. I think I will stay watching proper Star Trek and watch this if it gets better. Sounds like it could have been great if they had just set it in the 25th century then they could have had all this new tech and subspace mind melds etc and no one would mind. Hell even the Discovery and the other ships could have been the same sort of styles just neither and cleaner and more futuristic.

Yea the insistence that it's a prequel in the same timeline as the other series really hampers it. If they'd either gone with post-Nemesis or officially set it in the Kelvin timeline it would work just fine (especially as the visuals are straight out of the JJ films)

I've just rewatched it there and it's just not Star Trek imo.. It's technically and visually stunning but the whole tone and emphasis on conflict (both pew pew and between the crew) is more BSG than TNG

And then, from the trailer for the third episode/rest of the season,

it looks as though they're almost starting over again with the actual ship and captain?? A reboot within a reboot - maybe there was some truth to the production difficulty rumors after all

Agent Coulson

Meh meh meh meh meh is all I feel after watching the two episodes.

Yggr of Asgard

I think these were just stretched out trailers which got quite a lot of references wrong (from wrong name pronunciations to who can do what).

Sure, it was an optical spectacle but overall as I previous said "meh".

Now let's see if Episode 3 brings some story line and kicks this off.

Venom

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Yea the insistence that it's a prequel in the same timeline as the other series really hampers it. If they'd either gone with post-Nemesis or officially set it in the Kelvin timeline it would work just fine (especially as the visuals are straight out of the JJ films)

Has any reason being given why they didn't go the pre JJ Trek universe Kirk and crew route? It would of solved so many fan and lore issues and seeing as it's a prequel, wouldn't impact future JJ Trek universe movies!

Yggr of Asgard

I also wonder, is this really Star Trek?

If I look at this separate from any expectation I have to a Star Trek show (and what makes Star Trek Star Trek), than this show is not really bad and an interesting war in space show (too bad that space above and beyond never took off).

_Kaiser_

Venom wrote: »

Has any reason being given why they didn't go the pre JJ Trek universe Kirk and crew route? It would of solved so many fan and lore issues and seeing as it's a prequel, wouldn't impact future JJ Trek universe movies!

The only reason I can think of is marketing..

They know the JJ films split the fan base but that everyone loves the TOS era so by saying this was in the original timeline, just before that era but with JJ tone and style, I guess they thought they'd appeal to both sides

The problem is that many of the original fans see that as an insult to their intelligence, and don't like the JJ films anyway - and this IS basically JJ Trek: the Series - and on top of that, many of the JJ film fans wouldn't be paying to watch an entire series.

Venom

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

The only reason I can think of is marketing..

They know the JJ films split the fan base but that everyone loves the TOS era so by saying this was in the original timeline, just before that era but with JJ tone and style, I guess they thought they'd appeal to both sides

The problem is that many of the original fans see that as an insult to their intelligence, and don't like the JJ films anyway - and this IS basically JJ Trek: the Series - and on top of that, many of the JJ film fans wouldn't be paying to watch an entire series.

It just seems for every solution they came up with to try and appease both fan bases, they created multiple problems instead that would rile up the original fans such Spock having an adopted sister, the JJ style tech and the new Klingons?

I'd love to know the reason post Nemesis Trek is such a no go for TV and movies.

jamesbere

Venom wrote: »

It just seems for every solution they came up with to try and appease both fan bases, they created multiple problems instead that would rile up the original fans such Spock having an adopted sister, the JJ style tech and the new Klingons?

I'd love to know the reason post Nemesis Trek is such a no go for TV and movies.

I don't get it either, there was plenty of material to work with post nemesis. What happened to the borg, future of the cardassians and dominion. The future alliance with the Klingons and federation. I know star trek online covers some of this but a TV series or film would be better

This is fantastic. Great TV. Fantastic action. Great opening two episodes.

expectationlost

feels like there a redoing the USS Defiant story

degrassinoel

degrassinoel wrote: »

don't like michael

Hope it's not all about her, she's a crap actor by trek standards.

Ha. Sorry, but Trek has some notoriously bad actors throughout the various franchises.

_Kaiser_

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ha. Sorry, but Trek has some notoriously bad actors throughout the various franchises.

Usually not as the lead though.

Although I can't say I saw the big fuss over Michelle Yeoh either. Best one really was the guy playing Saru

Sad Professor

I'm too tired to offer any detailed thoughts, but I really liked it, especially the new Klingons, Yeoh, and the fresh visual approach. Very solid start. The question now is whether they can deliver on the promise they've made. I'd feel a lot better if Fuller was still involved.

LeBash

Yggr of Asgard wrote: »

I also wonder, is this really Star Trek?

If I look at this separate from any expectation I have to a Star Trek show (and what makes Star Trek Star Trek), than this show is not really bad and an interesting war in space show (too bad that space above and beyond never took off).

I agree with that. The uniform, insignia, some terminology link it to star trek but it hasn't followed what has made us all gobble up about 20 movies and the guts of 40 seasons.

pinkypinky

I was hooked by it but knowing that she ends up on a different ship didn't help me engage with this crew. It's an extended origin story for Michael and now we see how she goes from here.

There's always going to be a tech looking better problem. I agree with some of the other posters: why not just set it after Voyager and have 2 separate Star Trek timelines (films and tv)? Retconning that Spock has an adopted sister is just a way of making fans care.

I'll keep watching so I can say hello to Jason Isaacs.

All that said, I still enjoyed the episode of TNG today more where Mrs Troi tries to get off with Capt Picard and he hides in the holodeck. I reckon I've seen it about 8 times before.

LeBash

LeBash wrote: »

I agree with that. The uniform, insignia, some terminology link it to star trek but it hasn't followed what has made us all gobble up about 20 movies and the guts of 40 seasons.

Well... last time they did that was Enterprise ... and we know how that turned out.

Trek needed an overhaul. Only way it could have survived.

stevenmu

I'm in the "liked it a lot" camp.

I think they had to break continuity with some of the technology, holographic comms in particular. We've had smart phones for 15 years now, even mid-90s era mobile phones were way more advance than TOS communicators. Holographic communication is probably 10 years away, 20 at most, and certainly much closer than warp drive or even just common place space travel.

I like the new style and tone. It's very different to anything that was Star Trek in the past, but TV has changed a lot since the last series, doubly so if you discount Enterprise. Star Trek had to change too.

I don't know why they had to change the Klingons yet again, but there's plenty of precedent for it, and they could work out ok. One positive was that they did come across as very alien.

Cantstandsya

Hated it. Thought the acting was rubbish and the dialogue was crap. It looks terrible, the aesthetic was far more like Andromeda or one of those crappy 90s sci fi shows than any of the old Star Trek series.

Not gonna pick it apart beyond that. I was sad when Enterprise was cancelled and remember many a conversation with friends wondering if Trek would ever return to the small screen. Feel a bit depressed tonight that this is what it's come to.

AMKC

Sad Professor wrote: »

I'm too tired to offer any detailed thoughts, but I really liked it, especially the new Klingons, Yeoh, and the fresh visual approach. Very solid start. The question now is whether they can deliver on the promise they've made. I'd feel a lot better if Fuller was still involved.

I'd feel a lot better if Fuller was still involved.

I think most of us would. Then maybe all the inconsistency's might not be there and it might have been a better show. Maybe he was trying to tell them and they were not listening. I also might actual want to watch it too as well.

silverharp

its like dumbed down Star Trek for the movie going masses except no sense of humor. I could have got behind behind a sun tsu quoting captain , a pity they killed her off. They seem to be going with op females that can attack klingons head on, I dont remember Janeway or Beverly dropping aliens twice as strong as them.
The sets are great but they have unnecessarily added technology which clearly wasnt part of any prior series. See where it goes, its not "Star Trek" yet

DMcL1971

I thought it was fantastic! The visual effects were excellent. The Klingon uniforms were beautiful and their prosthetics were great. I reckon Saru is going to be a lot of fun. I will definitely be watching this.

The season preview gave away way too much though.

Goodshape

Thought it was really good! Potentially great but it all felt like too much of a prologue to make that call just yet.

The two episodes flew by. Hope the pace settles down a bit from here on, give us a chance to soak it in, because mostly it looks like it could be the modernised Trek I'd hoped for.

pixelburp

I've only watched the first episode so I've been a bit circumspect in reading this thread,but I think that opener was solid, but nothing groundbreaking just yet; and that's fine, I think theres a danger in expecting too much from any pilot (crashes and burnings straight out the gate notwithstanding ), and 45 minutes isn't near enough to do anything but lay the groundwork. I've watched plenty of pilots that led to garbage seasons, and terrible pilots that grew into favourite shows - it's too early to tell.

Yes, the technological gap is a big misstep, and the klingons are incredibly jarring - BUT - the Federation was there, all the concepts and layers that inform the ships of starfleet were present in postage stamp moments; I think there's a danger in losing sight of what is there, in favour of what isn't

Admldj

I watched the first two episodes and somewhat enjoyed them, visually they look well and I think there is a lot of room for this show to develop into something good.

Unfortunately, every so often I sighed to myself "why is this a prequel?" From what I can see if they changed sarek to some other Vulcan and that's it, this could have been set 100 years after nemesis! they could even have the whole Klingon thing being that they have never regained their empire since the Dominion war and have become xenophobic and nationalistic, you know do what star trek has always done and echo the times we live in with aliens!

degrassinoel

Deleted User wrote: »

Ha. Sorry, but Trek has some notoriously bad actors throughout the various franchises.

as a lead?

Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Archer, they were all likeable from the first episode, Michael is a load of me hole - whether its the vulcan aspect of her character or the fact that she's just not that good an actor remains to be seen.
Personally, i think she's ****e, didn't like her in this and she was as unlikable in TWD too.

AtomicHorror

Liked it a lot. Burnham is a very unusual lead for Star Trek- a character in need of serious redemption, whose failings have been shown to us in much more frank and visceral terms than we're used to. That flawed character seems to have been a problem for most here, which I think is a shame.

The Klingons would have been easier to accept if some effort were made to explain their difference. Most seem fixated on the prosthetics- my issue is their reverence for the bodies of the dead. That is not in line with Klingon culture of the 24th century. Cultures change, of course.

I think though that all of this can fit in the canon- two episodes is not much time to do the work required for that.

squonk

I have to say I like it based on what I’ve seen so far. Really though we’ve just got a prologue and I feel that the real story will begin next week.

I think it’s what I expected really. It was never going to be like TNG Or TOS Or any other trek that has gone before. Since enterprise finished we’ve had BSG Which redefined the genre And we had those awful JJ movies which redefined the look of Trek.

I think they did well. Yes, I’m not sure about the Klingons and I too thought that the holograms were out of place But we moved on a lot technology wise since trek last aired so I’m willing to give them that leeway if it helps them tell the story they want to tell. I just hope that there is a compelling story there. I think Burnham could be a grower. Yes, she is a loose cannon and not very likeable yet it’s early days and I think we need to get to know her better.

I think it’s an interesting calling card and I am willing to see where it goes. At the end of the day we’ve got trek back on our TV and, unlike the recent films, we don’t have to be embarrassed about it.

Pelvis

It was alright, I probably liked it more than expected. I thought Michelle Yeoh was pretty poor and agree with others that the actor playing Burnham is not very good, I also didn't think much of her in TWD.

The Klingon dialogue is painful. I'd rather they just stick to English tbh.

TheIrishGrover

Overall I liked it. For a pilot it was VERY strong: Just look at every other Trek pilot/first episode for comparison. I like Michelle Yeoh as an actress but I was a bit disappointed with her performance in this. Not really at her best in English.

I actually really liked Burnham. Thought she was an interesting character. Very interesting to see a flawed main character in trek for once. And she is flawed - She done f*cked up. Not the epitome of Federation values like Picard or Kirk (Well, epitome of 60's Federation ). Not the arrogant and rigid Janeway or bland Archer. More like the anger of Sisko but without the experience.

I also really liked Sarek. Thought the actor played him well and had the right level of gravitas. I mean, if you want to nitpick, he ages badly in 10 years (when he appears in TOS) for such a long lived species. But, hey ho.

I liked Doug Jones' character too. Thought initially that he was going to be very annoying but by the end of the first episode, when he confronts Burnham, I was growing to like him. And let's face it: Jones is the best prosthetic actor in the business.

The stilted delivery of the main Klingon was quite annoying (I NEVER liked the usual stilted delivery of Klingon whenever spoken in the movies or series). But I did like Kor's more fluid delivery: It was spoken as a language as opposed to just a series of words read off one-by-one.

I didn't like the informal, paly nature of the crew at the start. Reminded me of The Orville. But that toned down a bit when it got series and I presume a few of those will be gone or toned down now they are at war.

Thought it looked very nice. There was obviously a lot of money put into it. But it was a very limited range of sets and locations. Will be interesting to see how that fares though when they start going to different locations/sets.

Could have lightened up a little bit though. Just a wee bit.

Wasn't gone on the music/credit sequence. Trying to pull off a "Westworld" vibe. Liked the initial call back and the end of course. But the rest was quite forgettable. Even Enterprise had a hummable tune.

tldr: Overall I liked it. Strong pilot. Liked main character. Little bit serious but certainly has me interested. The story could be interesting as long is it's not the only story. I know they are aking a big deal about

Mudd

being in it but I hope there's more than that.

Jmccoy1

Absolutely loved it, can’t wait for the next episode.