How often for car service?

CJhaughey

Sitting around will still need servicing on or before the service message comes up.
When you drive the car it still combusts whatever fuel is in it. and the byproducts of the process are acidic and are held in suspension in the oil, not to mention having water present from a humid atmosphere all combine to turn the oil acidic which if left can start to attack metals in the engine.
A low mile car that hasn't been driven regularly can deteriorate faster than a car which is used regularly and gets hot enough to evaporate all the moisture in the oil.

DaveyDave

On the topic of oil, I'm certain I saw somewhere that automatics have a separate oil change interval? Think I saw it on the dash of a car somewhere that had 15k to service, 8k for transmission or something., I'm open to correction of course!

DaveyDave

DaveyDave wrote: »

On the topic of oil, I'm certain I saw somewhere that automatics have a separate oil change interval? Think I saw it on the dash of a car somewhere that had 15k to service, 8k for transmission or something., I'm open to correction of course!

Its every 60k for a DSG box

jca

BrownFinger wrote: »

Its every 60k for a DSG box

That's the 6 speed wet clutch box. The 7 speed are dry clutches the small bit of oil they have is for the control solenoids. The 6 speed is used for higher torque/bhp engines.

sunnysoutheast

jca wrote: »

That's the 6 speed wet clutch box. The 7 speed are dry clutches the small bit of oil they have is for the control solenoids. The 6 speed is used for higher torque/bhp engines.

7 speed wet clutch longitudinal DSG/S-Tronics on Audis too

60k service interval which you miss at your peril!

our cars get oil & filter every 20k kms which works out about every 10 months

fuel, air and cabin filters every three oil and filter changes

brakes, S-Tronic, fluid etc. at next service when required

mikeecho

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

No, the standard intervals on all modern diesel Hyundais is 30k kms. They take just fine to it.

I'm not a fan of Hyundai, but personally I think 30k is far too long between oil change.

If you or anyone cares for their motor , and plans on keeping it beyond its warranty , change the oil and filter every 15k

That's just my option, feel free to ignore/disregard/dispute.

A lot of the filters.. ie air, pollen are super super easy diy jobs

Toyotafanboi

mikeecho wrote: »

I'm not a fan of Hyundai, but personally I think 30k is far too long between oil change.

If you or anyone cares for their motor , and plans on keeping it beyond its warranty , change the oil and filter every 15k

That's just my option, feel free to ignore/disregard/dispute.

A lot of the filters.. ie air, pollen are super super easy diy jobs

I don't know. I reckon modern oils combined with modern oil technology is well capable of doing 30k kms between changes. That's only 18k miles after all.

Hyundai offer probably the longest, most comprehensive warranty on the market at the moment at 5 years with unlimited mileage, they'd hardly offer that if they thought that the cars couldn't sustain the service intervals.

mikeecho

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

I don't know. I reckon modern oils combined with modern oil technology is well capable of doing 30k kms between changes. That's only 18k miles after all.

Hyundai offer probably the longest, most comprehensive warranty on the market at the moment at 5 years with unlimited mileage, they'd hardly offer that if they thought that the cars couldn't sustain the service intervals.

Remember, you're dealing with an industry that has lied about mpg , emissions figures etc.

I agree that a brand new car will operate fine on 30k oil intervals, .... initially... But long term, after the warranty is gone, would you have been better off having a more regular service.

Toyotafanboi

mikeecho wrote: »

Remember, you're dealing with an industry that has lied about mpg , emissions figures etc.

I agree that a brand new car will operate fine on 30k oil intervals, .... initially... But long term, after the warranty is gone, would you have been better off having a more regular service.

Traditionally, I would have thought the same but I think times have genuinely changed in that regard.

Like the Hyundais for example, plenty of examples go on to 2-300k kms comfortably with no issues relating to excessive engine wear from lack or degradation of engine oil, or no more wear than would be consistent with that mileage regardless of oil change frequency.

I havn't done a scientific stud or anything but most cars in Ireland outside of manufacturers warranty are probably lucky to get a service once every 30k anyway and most seem to plod along fine. That said, I wouldn't condone negligence either.

I'm taking one for the team in that regard. I'm using a fully synt oil in my Civic, im now on my third oil change at double the manufacturers recommendations and it seems to have had no adverse effects so far. The engine doesn't even require a top up from service to service.

CIP4

I get mine serviced every 15k Km as per recommended manufacture service interval think the time is 1 year although the computer counts down from 2 years for some reason. For me every 15k is every 6 months or so. I think 15k km is a good rule of thumb but there are exceptions and for low mileage drivers I'd go by time. With my own the oil is still fairly brown (petrol) after 15k km so I suppose that's a good sign the oil has life left in it by the time it's being changed.

mikeecho

Toyotafanboi wrote: »

Traditionally, I would have thought the same but I think times have genuinely changed in that regard.

Like the Hyundais for example, plenty of examples go on to 2-300k kms comfortably with no issues relating to excessive engine wear from lack or degradation of engine oil, or no more wear than would be consistent with that mileage regardless of oil change frequency.

I havn't done a scientific stud or anything but most cars in Ireland outside of manufacturers warranty are probably lucky to get a service once every 30k anyway and most seem to plod along fine. That said, I wouldn't condone negligence either.

I'm taking one for the team in that regard. I'm using a fully synt oil in my Civic, im now on my third oil change at double the manufacturers recommendations and it seems to have had no adverse effects so far. The engine doesn't even require a top up from service to service.

That's fine, I'm not going to argue, but, I've paid a lot for my car, and I want it to last.

I don't mind paying small money at a local indie for correct oil and filter.

Long term yeah the car might run fine with 30k intervals, but 15k intervals can only be better.

Each to their own.

mickdw

30k km is too long.
manufacturers are using these intervals to suit fleet buyers. This interval means less servicing costs and less down time. No doubt the car will be perfectly fine for many years but there can be no doubt that the same car serviced twice as often would be the better car at 5 years old.

EPAndlee

Where I'm working it's every 20,000 kms but some of the other dealers are every 30,000kms. Have some customers that service it every 30k with no problems. The vans are around 38,000 kms tho

uck51js9zml2yt

Got a full service on mine in February. Getting oil and filters changed next week with an early NCT around the corner.
Mine sits outside the house most of the week
Costing me about 140 including parts

jca

Heidi Ripe Beak wrote: »

Got a full service on mine in February. Getting oil and filters changed next week with an early NCT around the corner.
Mine sits outside the house most of the week

And does 1000kms on the weekend.

uck51js9zml2yt

jca wrote: »

And does 1000kms on the weekend.

Almost:)
But seriously, I usually change the oil and filters every 6 months anyway. Supply my own parts and he fits them.

jca

Heidi Ripe Beak wrote: »

Almost:)
But seriously, I usually change the oil and filters every 6 months anyway. Supply my own parts and he fits them.

Can only be good you know what's going into it.