OCd

Liamalone

I watched a programme slash documentary on this last night. What a load of balls. People claiming to be housebound etc because they can't leave the house without touching things for or five times, can only brush their teeth after carrying out a certain 'ritual'. What a load of horse****.

I actually watched it with someone who is a mental health nurse and despite what she said, I still couldn't fathom wtf was wrong with them. I just kept thinking, wise the fook up.

Some folk will spout any aul crap for dla. Any wonder this world is up the shooter.

suicide_circus

If there was work in the bed, they'd sleep on the floor.

razorblunt

I see what you did with the thread tiTle.

Tom Mann Centuria

I disagree.

Liamalone

razorblunt wrote: »

I see what you did with the thread tiTle.

Unintentional but funny lol. Must have been an 'intrusive' thought. Apparently it's a 'thing'. Thoughts intrude and instead of catching yourself on, you tap things numerous times, spin around clockwise twice then anticlockwise four times, tap your noggin twice and then you are able to catch yourself on.

Liamalone

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

I disagree.

Which part?

McMurphy

Liamalone wrote: »

I actually watched it with someone who is a mental health nurse and despite what she said, I still couldn't fathom wtf was wrong with them. I just kept thinking, wise the fook up.
.

duchalla

Liamalone wrote: »

Which part?

With the "d" obviously....

kev1.3s

You can never underestimate the power of someone's brain, I'm not OCD myself but have came in contact with someone with a severe case.
They know that everything they do is completely irrational and try to tell themselves that but in the end they just can't help themselves. I find myself lucky that I'm able to go about my day to day duties without having to perform any "rituals" before leaving the house.

frankythefish

Had chronic ocd. Now live normal life although medicated. If I never had ocd I would have thought sufferers were talking rubbish. Your mind is your operations centre. And Ocd is very real.

somesoldiers

And people that say "I'm so OCD coz I like to put my books in alphabetical order"no, that just makes them easy to find

Marty Bird

Well OP you haven't a clue,OCD can take many forms not just the cleaning and touching narrow minded people associate it with. It can be really difficult to overcome if at all. The intrusive thoughts can be really bad once you are in the cycle it's very difficult to break.

Tom Mann Centuria

Liamalone wrote: »

Which part?

Well all of it really. Genuine OCD is crippling, same as a lot of things in mental health, you can't just wise up with it.

Jon Richardson the comedian did a good film about OCD. He used to tell a joke about it, but doesn't anymore, after he spent some time with those with the condition, it's quite funny and worth checking out if you can find it. There's also a really sad Canadian doc on YouTube about people tormented by OCD.
https://youtu.be/bKiu1IZcEF0

Sue Pa Key Pa

If you really had OCD, it would be CDO

Esel

Anyone remember COD?

Sue Pa Key Pa

Esel wrote: »

Anyone remember COD?

I read a PIECE about it once

UsedToWait

Sue Pa Key Pa wrote: »

I read a PIECE about it once

Word up.

Liamalone

Marty Bird wrote: »

Well OP you haven't a clue,OCD can take many forms not just the cleaning and touching narrow minded people associate it with. It can be really difficult to overcome if at all. The intrusive thoughts can be really bad once you are in the cycle it's very difficult to break.

I admit that I more or less haven't a clue. I thought it was all about having things in straight lines and that, the program opened my eyes to my 'misunderstanding' about it in that respect.

That said, I still thought it was a load of balls, maybe it was the folk in the program just, the things they were doing was weird and uncalled for. I was actually left wondering how they initially came up with their 'routines' as it was just silly.

One person has OCD for ten or fifteen years and had a 'routine' that I would put money on that they would be too small to do the 'routine' even five years ago. It stunk of bollocks.

Badly Drunk Boy

Liamalone wrote: »

I watched a programme slash documentary on this last night...

I thought this was going to be about how OCD caused the break-up of Guns N'Roses...

Liamalone

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

Well all of it really. Genuine OCD is crippling, same as a lot of things in mental health, you can't just wise up with it.

Hence why I started the topic. I thought it was having things in order etc but it seems to be more than that according to the program that I viewed. The participants in said program were totally unbelievable imo, it sounded like a load of codswallop.

Mental health is indeed nothing to be taken lightly, maybe the program didn't 'shine' the correct light upon it.

Maybe this thread might do something different.

FWIW, the title was unintentional, on phone.

Liamalone

Badly Drunk Boy wrote: »

I thought this was going to be about how OCD caused the break-up of Guns N'Roses...

*Guns N Roses

Outlaw Pete

Liamalone wrote: »

I admit that I more or less haven't a clue.

More.

Of course their actions are weird and uncalled for, it'd hardly be a disorder otherwise would it

Tom Mann Centuria

Liamalone wrote: »

Hence why I started the topic. I thought it was having things in order etc but it seems to be more than that according to the program that I viewed. The participants in said program were totally unbelievable imo, it sounded like a load of codswallop.

Mental health is indeed nothing to be taken lightly, maybe the program didn't 'shine' the correct light upon it.

Maybe this thread might do something different.

FWIW, the title was unintentional, on phone.

No harm in being a bit sceptical, I dare say there are people who take the p*ss, same with whiplash injuries, back pain etc etc There will always be some tossers who try to fool the system, and there are varying degrees of OCD, some that people can exist comfortably alongside and others who's life it takes over.

Steve F

Liamalone wrote: »

Hence why I started the topic. I thought it was having things in order etc but it seems to be more than that according to the program that I viewed. The participants in said program were totally unbelievable imo, it sounded like a load of codswallop.

Mental health is indeed nothing to be taken lightly, maybe the program didn't 'shine' the correct light upon it.

Maybe this thread might do something different.

FWIW, the title was unintentional, on phone.

Edit it then

OCD is a serious psychiatric illness. The rituals needed can cause the person to feel so trapped by their compulsion to carry them out. It can be anything from washing hands ten times to intrusive thoughts of harm coming to people they love. One of the causes is thought to be abuse in early childhood or a very stressful life event. Anxiety disorder and high rates of suicide are often present.

So no OP, it's not rubbish or whatever else you think.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

Hey lay off OCD everyone, 'How Bizarre' was a classic one hit wonder.

El Weirdo

Liamalone wrote: »

I watched a programme slash documentary on this last night. What a load of balls. People claiming to be housebound etc because they can't leave the house without touching things for or five times, can only brush their teeth after carrying out a certain 'ritual'. What a load of horse****.

I actually watched it with someone who is a mental health nurse and despite what she said, I still couldn't fathom wtf was wrong with them. I just kept thinking, wise the fook up.

Some folk will spout any aul crap for dla. Any wonder this world is up the shooter.

Liamalone wrote: »

Unintentional but funny lol. Must have been an 'intrusive' thought. Apparently it's a 'thing'. Thoughts intrude and instead of catching yourself on, you tap things numerous times, spin around clockwise twice then anticlockwise four times, tap your noggin twice and then you are able to catch yourself on.

Liamalone wrote: »

I admit that I more or less haven't a clue. I thought it was all about having things in straight lines and that, the program opened my eyes to my 'misunderstanding' about it in that respect.

That said, I still thought it was a load of balls, maybe it was the folk in the program just, the things they were doing was weird and uncalled for. I was actually left wondering how they initially came up with their 'routines' as it was just silly.

One person has OCD for ten or fifteen years and had a 'routine' that I would put money on that they would be too small to do the 'routine' even five years ago. It stunk of bollocks.

Liamalone wrote: »

Hence why I started the topic. I thought it was having things in order etc but it seems to be more than that according to the program that I viewed. The participants in said program were totally unbelievable imo, it sounded like a load of codswallop.

Mental health is indeed nothing to be taken lightly, maybe the program didn't 'shine' the correct light upon it.

Maybe this thread might do something different.

FWIW, the title was unintentional, on phone.

Backtracking much?

Thought you'd get a rake of likes for your edgelordlike OP, yeah? How'd that go?

WoollyRedHat

I used to have OCD. In my case I grew out of it.

Would have to turn off devices x number times, before leaving the house. Had to pull door shut certain amount of times even though it was quite clearly closed over and would make me late for things as a result.

There was a little voice in my head that said if I didn't follow through with these repetitive actions, that people close to me would die. So one day I decided let them die, and I stopped!

uch

Only ritual I have when leaving the house is to make sure the Bladder and Bowels are empty, then I can leave happily

sbsquarepants

A lot of people tell you they have OCD when in reality they just like things done in a certain way - that is little more than a habit. It's much the same as people will tell you they are depressed when in fact they are just in a bad mood or having a shítty day.
Genuine OCD, much like genuine depression, is a very different beast altogether!

jamesbere

I'd say having ocd must be horrible, I've seen someone whose had it and they nearly had a nervous breakdown when something wasn't right.

Our brains are fascinating and complex but can be a total c***t for some people

Academic

Liamalone wrote: »

I watched a programme slash documentary on this last night. What a load of balls. People claiming to be housebound etc because they can't leave the house without touching things for or five times, can only brush their teeth after carrying out a certain 'ritual'. What a load of horse****.

I actually watched it with someone who is a mental health nurse and despite what she said, I still couldn't fathom wtf was wrong with them. I just kept thinking, wise the fook up.

Some folk will spout any aul crap for dla. Any wonder this world is up the shooter.

There's nothing to fathom. It's a real disorder. Been recognized as such for many years. Are you perhaps new to planet earth? :pac:

Liamalone

El Weirdo wrote: »

Backtracking much?

Thought you'd get a rake of likes for your edgelordlike OP, yeah? How'd that go?

Yeah, because my mood depends on thanks from folk who have no bearing on my actual life. If you think like that then you have a very apt username.

Liamalone

Academic wrote: »

There's nothing to fathom. It's a real disorder. Been recognized as such for many years. Are you perhaps new to planet earth? :pac:

I always thought it was just having to have things in an orderly fashion or having an obsession with hygiene. The programme told a different story, featured the different people and two of which I thought were taking the hand.

topper75

Rick Shaw wrote: »

I'm glad the big Indian wised up in the end.

Maybe we should all wise up.

Academic

Academic wrote: »

There's nothing to fathom. It's a real disorder. Been recognized as such for many years. Are you perhaps new to planet earth? :pac:

Liamalone wrote: »

I always thought it was just having to have things in an orderly fashion or having an obsession with hygiene. The programme told a different story, featured the different people and two of which I thought were taking the hand.

In any event, welcome. I think you'll find earth pleasant, although it's not quite what it used to be.

elefant

Sometimes when cycling, I'll consistently be counting the number of pedals I take in between trees, or other repeating objects, along side the cycle path. I'll constantly be changing my rhythm and gears to try and keep the number of pedals in between each tree the same. Now, I don't do it all the time, and if I really forced myself I could stop it and direct my attention to something else. But while I'm doing it it's annoyingly important to me, for such an obviously trivial thing.

I'm far from having OCD, but if I imagine what it must be like to have that type of compulsion, all the time and unquenchable, and with issues that are much more frequent and debilitating, I can well imagine how crippling that must be.

Hammer89

Now we know why Liam is alone I guess.

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HairyCabbage

I had OCD as a child, between the ages of 11-13. I had been extremely afraid of death since about the age of 6/7 as I didn't believe in heaven and the thought of what that was terrifying as a child. I would scream my head off and start running about or jumping or rocking (almost as if I was trying to run away from it) and, obviously, my parents reassurances that we would all go to heaven did the opposite of comfort me. This sounds crazy already but I'd say it only happened 2/3 times a year so it wasn't something I was actively worrying about. Suddenly, around the age of 10-11 I started 'freaking out' about it a lot more. The fact that it was a good 70 years off at the time, was the only comfort I had. None of this is OCD so far (I don't think).

As if my brain wanted to rob me of my only comforting thought, I started becoming more and more attune to incidents of sudden death in the news that were occurring and the fact that I could technically die any day (I specifically remember an incident, in the UK I think, of a girl swallowing links off a charm bracelet she got free with a pair of Clarks shoes and the metal in the bracelet, nickel I think, poisoned and killed her). Somehow, I became convinced that everything was going to kill me or that I was going to die soon. I began washing my hands for so long and so often to the point that they would bleed (and still keep washing) because I didn't want the bacteria on my hands to kill me, I became terrified of not waking up in the morning and made my mother say in exact words that "I promise that my daughter (in case someone else had my name) First name, all middle names, Last name will wake up in the morning" this phrase became more and more specific over time. My parents couldn't sleep at night for the number of times I would get up at night and spend up to 30 mins in the bathroom both to wash my hands and because the idea that I was going to wet myself was another one of my intrusive thoughts.

I can go into more detail and how it unravelled if you want but I'm in work so consider this part one!

Wildcard7

Liamalone wrote: »

I actually watched it with someone who is a mental health nurse and despite what she said, I still couldn't fathom wtf was wrong with them. I just kept thinking, wise the fook up.

"Despite what a professional person said about the topic, I still was perfectly sure I knew better". Good way to go through life, keeps you from unnecessarily having to face and rethink your own opinions, I suppose.

Whenever someone who thinks mental illnesses are something that you could just miraculously switch off if only you wanted to, I ask them the same thing: Have you ever been lying awake in bed and couldn't sleep? Why didn't you just decide to sleep?

Sadly, the brain doesn't work that way.

Intrusive obsessive thoughts are definitely a thing, I have been plagued by them every day since I was at least 11 (usually depressing or distressing stuff). I don't consider myself to suffer from OCD since I don't feel the sort of compulsions commonly associated with the disorder like handwashing but having suffered severely from intrusive thoughts for about 16 years I am very well acquainted with the reality that we don't have total freedom of will to decide what our thoughts are, our thoughts "just" happen and they can end up being thoughts that cause us distress. Our efforts at controlling our thoughts through willpower is akin to trying not to think of a pink elephant. And our capacity to control our thoughts with willpower is *itself* not something we are fully responsible for. I would guess that OCD like many psychiatric illnesses falls on a gradient of sorts, and people with definite OCD fall at the far end of this gradient of "degree of distress suffered by intrusive thoughts". I am utterly burnt out by my late 20s from constantly having to deal with depression, obsessions, etc. so I have every sympathy for those truly suffering from what can appear to non-sufferers to be a strange mental disorder.

DEFTLEFTHAND

I've had it for as long as I remember, it's a very real thing.

I was formally diagnosed with it at 17 along with mild misophonia which is oftentimes linked with OCD.

It's impossible to explain to a non sufferer without coming across as a total wackjob. At my worst as a teenager I had to kiss the toilet bowl at night to ensure my parents didn't die, that's how insane this condition can get if left untreated.

Once I undertook cognitive therapy my situation improved but it's still always there, there's cure as per se.

My big thing is even numbers, when it flares up I'll have to flick a light switch twice, close the fridge twice, turn on and off the tele twice. Any odd number throws me off. In my sports playing days I refused to wear an odd number on my back, if I did my mind told me I would die on the field from Sudden Adult Syndrome.

It's so debilitating at times, you become agitated, angry, fearful, panicked. However the therapy encourages you to face down the fears and not give into the urges. It's hard but it does get better if you follow the guidelines and push yourself.

LadyMacBeth_

I hope everything stays fine for you OP.

marklazarcovic

this is terrifying and heartbreaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQWsfdwa14U

jamesbere

marklazarcovic wrote: »

this is terrifying and heartbreaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQWsfdwa14U

That was tragic really, he's trapped in his ocd.

TheZenMonkey

Liamalone wrote: »

Some folk will spout any aul crap for dla. Any wonder this world is up the shooter.

Maybe because disabled people are constantly being accused of "faking it" by uninformed, nondisabled people. The world would certainly be a better place if that stopped happening.

frankythefish

My ocd hit hard in early adulthood. Playing a game called championship manager 4, I could not progress on the game because I wanted to have a 'perfect game'. Restart, restart, restart.
Back to college i went. A straight A student, I was now bottom of the class in grades. I had the standard issue with lightswitches. But so much more. Ocd wore me out. I was drugged heavily. Ultimately I did nt have the energy to let the ocd go on. And thus it faded. At its worst I would spend large part of the day in bed. Bed was my safe zone. Getting out meant I might make a mistake. It was all about not making mistakes. The obsession part caused other issues. I fell for a girl. She did not feel similiar. I was probably just a few steps away from getting a Garda warning to leave her alone. It was mainly pestering via text. The times I have stopped taking drugs I have slipped back into proper ocd mode. Now I am doing fine. Still have ocd. Just not impacting on my life negatively. You would not know I have it. Ocd is anxiety. It is doubt. It is indecisiveness. When I was 11 I started supporting Liverpool. Next week Everton. Then Blackburn. Finally settled on Newcastle. I think it was always there. I think I was always going to end up with it. Growing up I had irritable bowel syndrome which caused huge anxiety. My dad decided he wanted out of this world in my mid twenties. So mental health issues perhaps were in the genes, amongst other issues. I now have a lovely fiancee, a beautiful child, a good home and a great job. But it's there in the background. I could write a book about it. It has pushed me to some bad places. Cheating in exams. But the main thing it has thought me is to let go off the past. I now work hard to build a good life.

TheZenMonkey

frankythefish wrote: »

But the main thing it has thought me is to let go off the past. I now work hard to build a good life.

Thanks for sharing that (and to everyone else who has shared their stories too). It's amazing what you've been through and come out on the other side with such a positive outlook.

Collie D

Not sure I'd describe myself as OCD but I definitely have a couple of anal traits.

If I have a few books to read I have to read them in the order they were published. I've rationalised this to myself by thinking a later book may contain a spoiler to an earlier despite not even being by same author.

Coins, notes are sorted by value. Smallest to top and biggest to back. I used to play a history game based on coin dates but introduction of EUR and more recent coins ruined that.

Counting off the number of stops on a bus or train. Not too bad I suppose.

When flying trying to figure out when I am over the destination country to put my watch forward/back.

Being more than a little bothered about the lower case "d" in the thread title.

Just a few I can think of but reckon I'm just a bit odd or anal and it doesn't affect my day to day life apart from being a bit of a clean freak about touching things.