Formula 1 2017 - Round 14 - Singapore

Harika

F1 is back, for the 10 year anniversary of the Singapore race. A fine night race in extreme heat with challenging cars.






TV Times with lights out
Friday Grand Prix first practice live Channel4/Sky Sports F1 09:00
Friday Grand Prix second practice live Channel4/Sky Sports F1 13:00
Saturday Grand Prix third practice live Channel4/Sky Sports F1 10:00
Saturday Grand Prix qualifying live Channel4/Sky Sports F1 13:00
Sunday Grand Prix live Channel4/Sky Sports F1 13:00

Talking Points:
Will Honda finally shine after being kicked out by McLaren?
Will the Sainz move to Renault made public?
Will Ferrari strike back?
Will Mercedes struggle again?

Harika

https://twitter.com/NobleF1/status/907920425757196288

Joeface

FP1 TIMES .

Pos Driver Team Time
1 Ricciardo AUS Red Bull 1'42.489
2 Vettel GER Ferrari 1'42.598
3 Verstappen NED Red Bull 1'42.610
4 Hamilton GBR Mercedes 1'42.904
5 Perez MEX Force India 1'43.423
6 Bottas FIN Mercedes 1'43.434
7 Räikkönen FIN Ferrari 1'43.734
8 Alonso ESP McLaren 1'43.759
9 Hülkenberg GER Renault 1'44.101
10 Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso 1'44.220
11 Vandoorne BEL McLaren 1'44.340
12 Palmer GBR Renault 1'44.961
13 Ocon FRA Force India 1'45.053
14 Massa BRA Williams 1'45.084
15 Grosjean FRA Haas 1'46.456
16 Giovinazzi ITA Haas 1'46.782
17 Stroll CAN Williams 1'47.190
19 Ericsson SWE Sauber 1'47.699
20 Wehrlein GER Sauber 1'47.886

Harika

Looks like a red Bull Ferrari fight.

Joeface

Sandbagging 2//// I mean FP2 times

Pos Driver Team Time
1 Ricciardo AUS Red Bull 1'40.852
2 Verstappen NED Red Bull 1'41.408
3 Hamilton GBR Mercedes 1'41.555
4 Bottas FIN Mercedes 1'42.104
5 Hülkenberg GER Renault 1'42.448
6 Vandoorne BEL McLaren 1'42.501
7 Alonso ESP McLaren 1'42.788
8 Perez MEX Force India 1'42.826
9 Räikkönen FIN Ferrari 1'42.835
10 Ocon FRA Force India 1'43.054
11 Vettel GER Ferrari 1'43.104
12 Sainz ESP Toro Rosso 1'43.236
13 Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso 1'43.608
14 Palmer GBR Renault 1'43.795
15 Massa BRA Williams 1'43.836
16 Stroll CAN Williams 1'44.301
17 Magnussen DEN Haas 1'44.417
18 Grosjean FRA Haas 1'44.928
19 Wehrlein GER Sauber 1'45.673
20 Ericsson SWE Sauber 1'45.721

skipper_G

Ferrari had to be sandbagging, they were arsing around with the soft tyre as well, trying to throw people off in the strategy.

AMKC

First two seasons were ok. Red Bull looking very competitive Verstappen having some nice sliding around but not touching the wall close do. Palmer did touch it do. Lewis made a few small mistakes and got very close to the wall. Alonso moaning again but he was in 7th at the end of Q2 so not too bad. I think a Riccardo win would be great but I also want to see the Ferrari's do well.

flazio

Good job Channel 4 are live this weekend. Massive fail from EirSport. Had the session set to record in the back room. EirSport pick up FP1 with 5 minutes left in the session and then only the last 30 minutes of FP2. Had this been an exclusive I'd be raging.

Vic_08

In the press conference the Honda chief was asked what would promote more involvement in F1 from Japanese manufacturers. His answer was that in Japan, unlike national series, F1 is only broadcast on satellite pay TV and it needs to be available to a wider audience.

Someone didn't get the FOM memo to not criticise the pay tv business model.

JPF82

AMKC wrote: »

First two seasons were ok. Red Bull looking very competitive Verstappen having some nice sliding around but not touching the wall close do. Palmer did touch it do. Lewis made a few small mistakes and got very close to the wall. Alonso moaning again but he was in 7th at the end of Q2 so not too bad. I think a Riccardo win would be great but I also want to see the Ferrari's do well.

Vettel hit the wall too on a fast run i think. Definitely sandbagging there. Really want to see Ricciardo win. Get him a title winning car soon!

Arthur Daley

Track is kinda crap though isn't it. Japanese viewers may have switched off for numerous reasons in recent years.

El_Duderino 09

Poor results for Williams and decent show from Hulk. Maybe the Renault will be suited to this track. I find it very difficult to judge how good the Renault car is. It seems to have improved over the year.

Joeface

Yes your reading it correctly , and I know its FP3 but McLaren p4&p5

Hopefully Q will be as interesting .

Pos Driver Team Time
1 Verstappen NED Red Bull 1'41.829
2 Vettel GER Ferrari 1'41.901
3 Hamilton GBR Mercedes 1'41.971
4 Alonso ESP McLaren 1'42.383
5 Vandoorne BEL McLaren 1'42.439
6 Ricciardo AUS Red Bull 1'42.517
7 Hülkenberg GER Renault 1'42.549
8 Bottas FIN Mercedes 1'42.592
9 Räikkönen FIN Ferrari 1'42.708
10 Perez MEX Force India 1'43.010
11 Ocon FRA Force India 1'43.109
12 Sainz ESP Toro Rosso 1'43.356
13 Palmer GBR Renault 1'43.368
14 Kvyat RUS Toro Rosso 1'43.574
15 Massa BRA Williams 1'43.724
16 Magnussen DEN Haas 1'44.041
17 Stroll CAN Williams 1'44.223
18 Grosjean FRA Haas 1'44.295
19 Wehrlein GER Sauber 1'45.760
20 Ericsson SWE Sauber 1'46.339

Itssoeasy

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Track is kinda crap though isn't it. Japanese viewers may have switched off for numerous reasons in recent years.

Which track ? Singapore or Suzuka ?

Arthur Daley

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Which track ? Singapore or Suzuka ?

Singapore. Not fit to shine Suzuka's boots

Itssoeasy

That wall is going to play a big part in this weekend.

Itssoeasy

The track is evolving big time.

skipper_G

Itssoeasy wrote: »

That wall is going to play a big part in this weekend.

Somebody will clout that in the race, I guess Grosjean

lolie

Interesting stat.
https://twitter.com/alanbaldwinf1/status/909039320027353088

skipper_G

Just a quarter of a second separating the top 5. Pole position shoot out should be interesting!

Cool_CM

lolie wrote: »

Interesting stat.
https://twitter.com/alanbaldwinf1/status/909039320027353088

He's currently the holds the lap record for this circuit, we'll see for how long!

Cool_CM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNLob2E_Q5s

Excellent lap by Seb!

skipper_G

Vettel nailed his lap, the Red Bulls looked immense, so much so I thought Verstappen would sneak it. What's the bets Max has an engine / gearbox issue in the race?

Cool_CM

Taking bets on how long it will take for the first safety car deployment?

HighLine

Great to see Seb so pumped. Some last lap.

Jeff2

That wall must be missing a few mm off the surface.:)

Jeff2

I was thinking earlier that the Merc cars are longer than others and a while ago DC said that was the case.
That means it not be as good going around sharp bends.

I remember once Vettel Walked from the back of a Merc to the front trying to measure it.:)

Burkie1203

Hamilton spoke about trying to get a good start and maybe getting by Kimi. I think he needs to be more wary of Alonso and Hulk getting flyers off the line. Alonso especially has had some cracking starts this year.

I hope Ricc wins

El_Duderino 09

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Hamilton spoke about trying to get a good start and maybe getting by Kimi. I think he needs to be more wary of Alonso and Hulk getting flyers off the line. Alonso especially has had some cracking starts this year.

I hope Ricc wins

Alonso has had fliers in the past but recently he's been at the back with the runts of the litter. So you'd expect him to get the best of them in the first fewer corners.

Though his Ferrari days also had good starts. So it will be interesting to see how he does tomorrow.

AMKC

Jeff2 wrote: »

I was thinking earlier that the Merc cars are longer than others and a while ago DC said that was the case.
That means it not be as good going around sharp bends.

I remember once Vettel Walked from the back of a Merc to the front trying to measure it.:)

Its not there cars thats longer its there wheelbase that is longer than the Ferrari's and all the other cars. There wheelbase been longer makes a big difference on a tight track like this. The cars are all the same length.

Here is a very good video on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAVJBVMjImE

Burkie1203

Teams are posting on twitter that its raining in singapore

Harika

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Teams are posting on twitter that its raining in singapore

Same as last days during this time. Correction Seems to stay https://mobile.twitter.com/RenaultSportF1/status/909329206760267777

JimmyMcGill

What time is blast off here guys?

Harika

JimmyMcGill wrote: »

What time is blast off here guys?

13:00 we hope

Charlie-Bravo

No delays are permitted to the start. Mayo are playing at 3.30pm.

Harika

astrofluff wrote: »

No delays are permitted to the start. Mayo are playing at 3.30pm.

I have to leave home also at 3:30, we should call F1 to tell them that. :pac:

flazio

Cool_CM wrote: »

Taking bets on how long it will take for the first safety car deployment?

Instant start behind the safety car but I think they've tweaked the rules to say that they will do a grid lights start after the safety car.

Harika

Looks quite dry now:

ScrubsfanChris

Channel 4 have got the brollies out with 30 minutes till the start.

boardsuser1

Regardless of the rain let them do a standing start as normal.

A safety car start is annoying and takes the unpredictability out of the race start.

Carnage in the midfield and the 2 Mercedes taking each other out (again) :P

Rossi IRL

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

Regardless of the rain let them do a standing start as normal.

A safety car start is annoying and takes the unpredictability out of the race start.

Carnage in the midfield and the 2 Mercedes taking each other out (again) :P

Think they changed the rules for this year, didnt they?

You might get a few laps behind the safety car but then they will line up on grid for a proper start.

Would be super to get a shower half way through the race.

boardsuser1

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Think they changed the rules for this year, didnt they?

You might get a few laps behind the safety car but then they will line up on grid for a proper start.

Would be super to get a shower half way through the race.

They were supposed to be changed, not sure if it was passed by the FIA though.

We need proper starts in all weathers.

I mean come on, who here says Belgium 1998 for example wasn't a classic due to the weather causing havoc?

Rossi IRL

Cork Truck Driver wrote: »

They were supposed to be changed, not sure if it was passed by the FIA though.

We need proper starts in all weathers.

I mean come on, who here says Belgium 1998 for example wasn't a classic due to the weather causing havoc?

Unpredictability creates great races.

boardsuser1

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Unpredictability creates great races.

Which a safety car start kills off.

What is the weather like there at present? haven't switched on the tv just yet and wont until it's light's out (and away we go:mad:)

Charlie-Bravo

Did Mark Webber just touch Ricciardo's helmet without him knowing? What a way to jinx the man.

boardsuser1

astrofluff wrote: »

Did Mark Webber just touch Ricciardo's helmet without him knowing? What a way to jinx the man.

Webber likes to drive an F1 car without a helmet in the rain :pac:

EPAndlee

Looks like the rain is here

Harika

Inters, Wet or dry, can be an interesting gamble

skipper_G

It's not wet enough for a safety car start. C4 making the point the teams will be trying to decide whether to start on inters or slicks

kopite386

Rain is coming down now a lot heavier than it was a few minutes ago

Jordan 199

Go #44!!