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Joyces take over Nestors supermarkets

  • 25-08-2017 1:54am
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    Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭


    I feel sorry for those living in Fr Griffin Rd and Ballybane. I have been subjected to Joyces prices for many years in Tuam and Athenry. Oranmore and Doughiska are not too bad as there is existing competition.

    Expect RG Data to pop up if there's any hint of new competition appearing to those stores too

    http://connachttribune.ie/joyces-supermarket-group-to-buy-nestors-galway-stores-990/
    Joyce’s Supermarket Group is set to buy all four Nestor supermarkets in Galway.

    Nestor’s supermarkets, which are currently in receivership, comprise Super Valu stores at Fr. Griffin Road, Oranmore and Ballybane and Centra in Doughiska.

    Joyces was established in 1951 and has stores in Headford, Athenry, Tuam, Indreabhán and Knocknacarra.

    Once the proposed transaction is complete, the four Galway Nestor stores will be re-branded under the Joyce’s name.

    Joyce’s said it will work with employees at the Nestor stores and additional career and promotion opportunities will be available to new and existing staff.

    The deal will have to be approved by the Competition and Consumer Protection Commission.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,237 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    I half agree with you.
    It's already being discussed in the opening/closing thread.
    The city SuperValu's were no angels either though. I'm out the country these days and most things in the local SV are about 15% cheaper than I used to pay in Fr Griffin.

    The pubs here are pulling the pee though but that's for another thread/forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,507 ✭✭✭ArtyC


    I make the extra effort and go to Aldi or Lidl . There's a thread for each in the food forum do I always know what's getting good reviews .

    Joyce's in knocknacara is a seldom special treat for that amazing pizza or deli. I've gone off super valu over the last 3 years , I found the father griffin road one to be expensive for run of the mill stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭westgolf


    how come there isnt even a super value in athenry , does joyce have photos of the entire planning section of galway county council or what ?

    Was a centra near the arch, became a mace, all Musgrave brands, closed bout two months ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭Gaillimh1976


    Lidl and Aldi both applied for planning permission

    Joyce (RGDATA) objected to both & they were shelved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭gandroid


    I don't think this is good for consumers. Although, SuperValu used to be expensive compared to other supermarkets, I think their value, offers and product offering has improved a lot in recent years IMO.

    Joyce's are very expensive and some of their "deals" are dodgy at best. Very expensive for fresh fruit and veg also.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Honestly can't understand how the SV in Oranmore was even viable. A tiny, cramped store competing with Tesco, Lidl and Aldi in a 500m radius. They had a great meat counter to be fair but as an actual supermarket, it was horrible....but it seemed to be continuously packed.


  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It was there before any of the other 3 so had built up a customer base


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Personally, I thought some of the prices in Nestors on Fr Griffin Rd was a bit up there as it is BUT in general, there are few bits and pieces that I would prefer to pick up at a SuperValu. I can't say the same for Joyces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,247 ✭✭✭Greaney


    Lidl and Aldi both applied for planning permission

    Joyce (RGDATA) objected to both & they were shelved

    One of them was not shelved (the one near the community hall in the current co-op site, they got their Planning permission. The co-op have to have their permission accepted on another site to move before the shop can be built.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭etselbbuns


    I got a supervalu 15% off your shopping card in the post.
    Covers all their outlets in Co. Galway until 03/12. Limited to a €500 spend per month too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    etselbbuns wrote: »
    I got a supervalu 15% off your shopping card in the post.
    Covers all their outlets in Co. Galway until 03/12. Limited to a €500 spend per month too.

    Same, a desperate measure to hold some of their customers, won't be using mine as the closest ones to the city are Barna and Moycullen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    Same, a desperate measure to hold some of their customers, won't be using mine as the closest ones to the city are Barna and Moycullen.

    Can you use it online? I heard someone say Barna is possibly going to start the online delivery service. Could be nice to have 15% off before Christmas.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭etselbbuns


    Can you use it online? I heard someone say Barna is possibly going to start the online delivery service. Could be nice to have 15% off before Christmas.
    Yep. 15% off expensive prices though?
    Best thing is to donate to someone in one of the county towns that have Supervalu


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 Laoch'Rione


    Joyces milk has a horrible pungent taste to it. They need to sort it out.:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,413 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Same, a desperate measure to hold some of their customers, won't be using mine as the closest ones to the city are Barna and Moycullen.
    And Loughrea and Gort. The Loughrea one is a seriously well laid out store I must say. I think it might be worth the spin.

    This too shall pass.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭leestone


    Joyces milk has a horrible pungent taste to it. They need to sort it out.:(

    It's arrabawn milk I think


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Same, a desperate measure to hold some of their customers, won't be using mine as the closest ones to the city are Barna and Moycullen.

    Claregalway is probably the handiest from the city.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭youngrun


    Same, a desperate measure to hold some of their customers, won't be using mine as the closest ones to the city are Barna and Moycullen.

    Very surprised they did not win the battle to takeover the Nestors outlets, big loss to the brand in Galway


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭etselbbuns


    Noticed on Supervalu.ie Barna are delivering to Galway. €5 charge. Anyone confirm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,971 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    etselbbuns wrote: »
    Noticed on Supervalu.ie Barna are delivering to Galway. €5 charge. Anyone confirm?

    I just had a look in the app there. I'm in the west of the city. Looks like Supervalu Moycullen are delivering now from the site.

    Oh and looks like you get 15 euro off a spend of 75 again! I hope the usual supervalu delivery guy got the delivery job out there, he was such a nice man.


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  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Looks like Joyces mouthpiece, RGdata, are now trying to block Lidl's expansion in Tuam, No surprise really, he utilises that group whenever he wants to stifle competition.

    https://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/uploads/attachments/238517/431340.jpg
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    Could anyone tell me if Joyce's have taken over the SuperValu stores yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,413 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    For a few months now. All the signage has been changed and everything.

    This too shall pass.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    At least 6 months now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭GalwayMagpie


    It looks as if the takeover has been a disaster. The supermarket is half empty, as is the carpark. SuperValu had a few things going for it, namely a good meat/fish counter. I won't be buying there again, I could see the embarrassment on the butchers face yesterday as he sturggled to find decent cuts for me. I've been buying from him for years. I can't see them recover, people have left and they won't be coming back anytime soon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    They've massively improved the old nestors Ballybane, better layout, increased range of products, pricing roughly the same/cheaper. All good really. Shop is as busy as ever by the looks of it too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,808 ✭✭✭spurshero


    It looks as if the takeover has been a disaster. The supermarket is half empty, as is the carpark. SuperValu had a few things going for it, namely a good meat/fish counter. I won't be buying there again, I could see the embarrassment on the butchers face yesterday as he sturggled to find decent cuts for me. I've been buying from him for years. I can't see them recover, people have left and they won't be coming back anytime soon.

    which one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,423 ✭✭✭Gadgetman496


    It looks as if the takeover has been a disaster. The supermarket is half empty, as is the carpark. SuperValu had a few things going for it, namely a good meat/fish counter. I won't be buying there again, I could see the embarrassment on the butchers face yesterday as he sturggled to find decent cuts for me. I've been buying from him for years. I can't see them recover, people have left and they won't be coming back anytime soon.

    Which shop?

    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭D Trent


    It looks as if the takeover has been a disaster. The supermarket is half empty, as is the carpark. SuperValu had a few things going for it, namely a good meat/fish counter. I won't be buying there again, I could see the embarrassment on the butchers face yesterday as he sturggled to find decent cuts for me. I've been buying from him for years. I can't see them recover, people have left and they won't be coming back anytime soon.
    They may well have lost customers in certain departments but by god have they gained them in the off licence, a highly profitable department.
    There's a massive selection of lines to choose from in any of the ones I've been in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭GalwayMagpie


    Which shop?

    Oranmore. Business is down, way down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Which shop?

    Oranmore. Business is down, way down.
    How much? % wise on the year? I'm assuming you're on the inside given you know they're 'down,way down'?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    They've massively improved the old nestors Ballybane, better layout, increased range of products, pricing roughly the same/cheaper. All good really. Shop is as busy as ever by the looks of it too.

    Don't know if it's massively improved.
    The checkouts have been moved, but they still put too many customers through the off-licence/ cigarette counter checkout. The off-licence has been expanded and they have more craft beers in stock. Haven't noticed increased product lines throughout the shop, but I have been caught out by out of date items on 2-3 occasions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    They've massively improved the old nestors Ballybane, better layout, increased range of products, pricing roughly the same/cheaper. All good really. Shop is as busy as ever by the looks of it too.

    Don't know if it's massively improved.
    The checkouts have been moved, but they still put too many customers through the off-licence/ cigarette counter checkout. The off-licence has been expanded and they have more craft beers in stock. Haven't noticed increased product lines throughout the shop, but I have been caught out by out of date items on 2-3 occasions.
    Too many? Do you mean they should open more tills, if so, then it's probably a staffing issue, operating off a light base I'd imagine. Better range of water, speciality bread, ice cream, craft beer and their beef is much better than SV.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,908 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    How much? % wise on the year? I'm assuming you're on the inside given you know they're 'down,way down'?

    My own casual observation is that it's quiet compared to Nestors time.

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    How much? % wise on the year? I'm assuming you're on the inside given you know they're 'down,way down'?

    My own casual observation is that it's quiet compared to Nestors time.
    Lots of competition out there I suppose, I wouldn't go there if I'd an Aldi/Lidl/Tesco in the area.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,237 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Better range of water,

    I've seen it all now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭GalwayMagpie


    Which shop?

    Oranmore. Business is down, way down.
    How much? % wise on the year? I'm assuming you're on the inside given you know they're 'down,way down'?

    Not in the inside, but conversion with staff member told me turnover in Oranmore is down by about 50%
    How much? % wise on the year? I'm assuming you're on the inside given you know they're 'down,way down'?

    My own casual observation is that it's quiet compared to Nestors time.
    Lots of competition out there I suppose, I wouldn't go there if I'd an Aldi/Lidl/Tesco in the area.
    The competition was there before the takeover, Aldi is fairly new, Tesco and Lidi are there a long time.


  • Posts: 15,362 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lots of competition out there I suppose, I wouldn't go there if I'd an Aldi/Lidl/Tesco in the area.

    Which is why Joyces mouthpiece, RG Data, lodges objections by the bucket load anytime there is any mention of competition near any Joyces stores.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Better range of water,

    I've seen it all now!
    Bualadh bos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,399 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Which shop?

    Oranmore. Business is down, way down.
    How much? % wise on the year? I'm assuming you're on the inside given you know they're 'down,way down'?

    Not in the inside, but conversion with staff member told me turnover in Oranmore is down by about 50%
    How much? % wise on the year? I'm assuming you're on the inside given you know they're 'down,way down'?

    My own casual observation is that it's quiet compared to Nestors time.
    Lots of competition out there I suppose, I wouldn't go there if I'd an Aldi/Lidl/Tesco in the area.
    The competition was there before the takeover, Aldi is fairly new, Tesco and Lidi are there a long time.
    Big drop, can't be sustainable in the long term.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    The Oranmore store definitely is laid out a lot better than it was when it was Supervalu. Only in there the rare time now though, so no idea how business is. Never understood people shopping in a tiny, cramped local supermarket with a major lack of choice when there's a huge Tesco around the corner as well as Lidl and Aldi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭GalwayMagpie


    The Oranmore store definitely is laid out a lot better than it was when it was Supervalu. Only in there the rare time now though, so no idea how business is. Never understood people shopping in a tiny, cramped local supermarket with a major lack of choice when there's a huge Tesco around the corner as well as Lidl and Aldi.
    I can give a part explanation. SuperValue had a very good butcher/fish counter. It wasn't exceptional but you knew the meat/fish was of decent quality. Discerning mammys would give up their first born before they'd buy meat from a Tesco butcher. That was their edge over all the other supermarkets in the area, and Joyce's threw it away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,547 ✭✭✭sgthighway


    I can give a part explanation. SuperValue had a very good butcher/fish counter. It wasn't exceptional but you knew the meat/fish was of decent quality. Discerning mammys would give up their first born before they'd buy meat from a Tesco butcher. That was their edge over all the other supermarkets in the area, and Joyce's threw it away.
    +1 on this comment
    Butcher service is what attracted me to the store. Good quality meat/fish and advice from the Butcher/Fish Monger. It wasn’t a huge selection but ample enough. Quality of that along with fruit and veg has gone downhill. I would love to follow the lifecycle of the meat from when Joyce’s buy it to me buying it. I don’t think it lasts as long; especially chicken. I do my shop in Aldi and pick up some bits afterwards in Tesco. I would never buy meat from Tesco.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭shenanagans


    Joyce's well known for poor butcher counter and bad expiration dates on food. They don't even put expiration dates on fruit and veg. Crazy stuff. Not surprised Oranmore store is doing so badly. Wait til the new supervalu opens in Oranmore, there'll be no one going into Joyce's at all then. From my observations tesco in oranmore busier since joyce's opened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭westgolf


    Joyce's well known for poor butcher counter and bad expiration dates on food. They don't even put expiration dates on fruit and veg. Crazy stuff. Not surprised Oranmore store is doing so badly. Wait til the new supervalu opens in Oranmore, there'll be no one going into Joyce's at all then. From my observations tesco in oranmore busier since joyce's opened.

    New SuperValu ? Where ? Haven't seen that on any threads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭shenanagans


    westgolf wrote: »
    New SuperValu ? Where ? Haven't seen that on any threads

    Heard they are building new store near the Lidl. As you turn towards the village from old Limerick Rd. Corner site there. Just what I heard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    They don't even put expiration dates on fruit and veg. Crazy stuff.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/21/tesco-scrap-best-dates-fruit-vegetables/


    Tesco is removing "best before" dates from most of its fresh fruit and vegetable packs, leaving consumers to use common sense to decide when they are no longer fit to eat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭westgolf


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/21/tesco-scrap-best-dates-fruit-vegetables/


    Tesco is removing "best before" dates from most of its fresh fruit and vegetable packs, leaving consumers to use common sense to decide when they are no longer fit to eat.

    Tesco copying Joyce's ? Wow,just wow


  • Posts: 24,714 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    westgolf wrote: »
    Tesco copying Joyce's ? Wow,just wow

    As far as I know it’s a new initititiave that all stores are being asked to do. Fruit and veg don’t need expiry dates. You decide based on the condition.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    They don't even put expiration dates on fruit and veg. Crazy stuff.

    Expiration dates on fruit and veg? Are you serious? Really?

    Do you have eyes and a nose? If so, ignore "best before" dates and use your eyes and nose like people have done for generations.

    Expiration dates on fruit and veg are a joke and foolish people throw our perfectly good food because they don't use basic human senses and prefer to believe something printed.

    Aldi and Lidl no longer put expiration dates and tesco are finally following suit.


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