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Wombatman wrote: »

So you are knowingly a two to one dog pre with possible action behind. What is the next step pray tell?

Let me guess..... outplay them post flop?

Yup. Tight player misses flop. Bets or checks... you float....and take it on the turn or river.

At this point position is assumed.

Rumpy Pumpy

Wombatman wrote: »

So you are knowingly a two to one dog pre with possible action behind. What is the next step pray tell?

Let me guess..... outplay them post flop?

893bet wrote: »

Yup. Tight player misses flop. Bets or checks... you float....and take it on the turn or river.

At this point position is assumed.

Watch out dudes, we have serious sharks in town.

Wombatman

Wombatman wrote: »

So you are knowingly a two to one dog pre with possible action behind. What is the next step pray tell?

Let me guess..... outplay them post flop?

Yeah. This is a useless conversation because it's obvious you have absolutely no idea how poker is played, except for maybe some homegames where everyone gets to turn their cards over.

eeguy

Jesus Wept wrote: »

ONline is totally fixed

My problem with online is you don't know who you're playing.

When its 11pm and you've had a few drinks are you playing some guy in a 3pm time zone. It's 12.12 where I am in the US. If I log into an Irish poker room I'm bound to be up against lads playing at 5.12am after Friday night drinks.
Are the players on your table all sitting in a room together somewhere teaming against you.
Are you playing against someone with an odds calculator.
Are you playing against someone who has a way of gaming the system.

Who knows. The online aspect of it is also unnerving. I heard a great podcast from an engineer who built virtual casino games that were programmed to win more times than not.
One of these games had a double or nothing feature based on the optional flip of a virtual coin. The system already knew which way the coin would fall, even before you decided to take the chance of the coin toss.

Dice75

Jesus Wept wrote: »

ONline is totally fixed

eeguy wrote: »

My problem with online is you don't know who you're playing.

When its 11pm and you've had a few drinks are you playing some guy in a 3pm time zone. It's 12.12 where I am in the US. If I log into an Irish poker room I'm bound to be up against lads playing at 5.12am after Friday night drinks.
Are the players on your table all sitting in a room together somewhere teaming against you.
Are you playing against someone with an odds calculator.
Are you playing against someone who has a way of gaming the system.

Who knows. The online aspect of it is also unnerving. I heard a great podcast from an engineer who built virtual casino games that were programmed to win more times than not.
One of these games had a double or nothing feature based on the optional flip of a virtual coin. The system already knew which way the coin would fall, even before you decided to take the chance of the coin toss.

I think he's referring to the fact the computer dealer is dealing from the bottom of the deck...

But i suppose if you have to point out the joke its a bit pointless....

The mans work will only truely be recognised long after he is gone.

rekluse

Poker actually has had a huge impact on my life, was working a ****ty job and just grinding online / live back home in the mid naughties, won a live tournament for a few hundred but also a ticket for a 300 euro live event. Managed to bink 3rd in that for almost 5k. Quit my job and moved to Barcelona, completed a CELTA there and then travelled Asia for 4 years teaching English. Some of the best years of my life. Haven't really played much since, but will always have a love for the game.

pickarooney

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Used to work for Full Tilt in Cherrywood when the Feds decided to have a go at them for illegally offering online poker in the US, those were not fun times (they were before hand though, stupid excessive lunches / canteen / parties etc). Got out before the **** really got everywhere though.

I could never understand why, in America of all places, gambling was banned. Except in a couple of states, which makes even less sense to me.

Neon_Lights

pickarooney wrote: »

I could never understand why, in America of all places, gambling was banned. Except in a couple of states, which makes even less sense to me.

Online wasn't properly taxed like physical casinos and the government got a tad ticked off. Same auld story really.

Mr. CooL ICE

pickarooney wrote: »

I could never understand why, in America of all places, gambling was banned. Except in a couple of states, which makes even less sense to me.

Land of the free!

Like Neon pointed out, it was down to taxes. There were massive amounts of money coming in and out of the country through an online game and the government had no control over it.

Neon_Lights

Nicolas Cage wrote: »

Land of the free!

Like Neon pointed out, it was down to taxes. There were massive amounts of money coming in and out of the country through an online game and the government had no control over it.

As a side note I predict similar will happen to bitcoin if the government get ticked off its "too decentralised"... Yet we cannot say the government is to inefficient or wasteful, the gold standard has been replaced by the double standard, thank you Richard Nixon

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eeguy wrote: »

My problem with online is you don't know who you're playing...

Are the players on your table all sitting in a room together somewhere teaming against you.
Are you playing against someone with an odds calculator.
Are you playing against someone who has a way of gaming the system.

Who knows. The online aspect of it is also unnerving. I heard a great podcast from an engineer who built virtual casino games that were programmed to win more times than not.

One of these games had a double or nothing feature based on the optional flip of a virtual coin. The system already knew which way the coin would fall, even before you decided to take the chance of the coin toss.

Exactly, way too many uncontrolled variables, compared to real-world events.

1). In very high-stakes you could be up against a highly coordinated small team, it may only go on the offense for a short period of sit and go play, before disembarking, any collusion under the radar. Then there is element of bot play, key access, testers and team VPN(IP) access points, all very hard to verify for the average Joe.

2). Secondly the Engineer's source code, who knows what variables and functions exist within that. Only the CTO of the 3rd party vendor. Yes there may be a (RNG) random(); script function, but what other factoring?

3). Percentiles. It could be fair to assume you don't have 50:50 up against any physical/virtual machine. It's generally accepted FOBT's generally run at 97.2%, as both site operator & remote supplier need paid. Anyone even glancing at a shop machine would need their head examined, quickly.

The non-physical 'virtual space' mightn't be much different, after all fees have to be paid e.g. licensing, vending, software development, and all other associated operating costs. That's before you consider any standard play commission.

buck65

Always bet on black.

Neon_Lights

buck65 wrote: »

Always bet on black.

25% chance on a four colour deck