Becoming homless !!

A1404

Hi people

Me and my wife in mid 20s need to move out by the end of the this month after 1 year contract ended, and the landlord want the apartment back for him self, we didn't have any success after sending many emails on Daft, we both work full time...

What are our option ? Hostel, hotel, sleep in car ðŸ™

We never been in this situation, if anyone have any suggestions please

Michael D Not Higgins

It's a very competitive market out there. I'd suggest friends or family as a backup plan.

When you email, are you getting a response or not? Have you got alerts set up on Daft? Have you increased the size of the area you're looking in?

bmwguy

Don't email. Seriously. Get on the phone and ring.

Wabbit Ears

and take two weeks leave from work and do nothing but trawl the sites,make calls, goto open viewings, research hotel long stays prices etc.

A1404

A1404 wrote: »

............ we both work full time...

What are our option ? Hostel, hotel, sleep in car ðŸ™

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Look to areas 20 / 30 miles away and commute.
It's preferable to being homeless.

Wabbit Ears

Augeo wrote: »

Look to areas 20 / 30 miles away and commute.
It's preferable to being homeless.

Great advice. My sister just moved to Carlow and she works in Naas. fair distance but its motorway miles.

GGTrek

bmwguy wrote: »

Don't email. Seriously. Get on the phone and ring.

Very bad advice in my opinion since if I put an ad in Daft with my phone number I would stay the whole day on the phone and more than half of the callers would be time wasters. Very difficult nowadays.
My suggestion to the OP, go outside daft: there are big groups in facebook called rent in Dublin or rent a room, ...
Start asking there. Think about a houseshare, think about living outside the city, think about how you approach the agents or landlords when you send email: make sure you present yourselves and especially your capability of paying the rent requested. Getting an email just saying: is there a slot free for the viewing? is a sure way to not getting a slot to the viewing.

Browney7

A1404 wrote: »

Hi people

Me and my wife in mid 20s need to move out by the end of the this month after 1 year contract ended, and the landlord want the apartment back for him self, we didn't have any success after sending many emails on Daft, we both work full time...

What are our option ? Hostel, hotel, sleep in car ðŸ™

We never been in this situation, if anyone have any suggestions please

Ask your current landlord does he know anyone looking for tenants? He's surely wary ye won't leave if you find no place else and so if he knows anyone at all he might put in a word for you?

CruelCoin

Augeo wrote: »

Look to areas 20 / 30 miles away and commute.
It's preferable to being homeless.

You can extend that if it's motoway.

I'm 60km but only 1 hour to city centre dublin, for around 1/3 of the rental costs...

A1404

we are currently renting apartment in Clonskeagh, I work in Stillorgan and my wife work in ballsbridge, we work kinda different times with only one car as she don't drive, we are looking ever in Bray wicklow area but no response from emails we sent, time is going fast and we are really stressed about the situation

CruelCoin

A1404 wrote: »

we are currently renting apartment in Clonskeagh, I work in Stillorgan and my wife work in ballsbridge, we work kinda different times with only one car as she don't drive, we are looking ever in Bray wicklow area but no response from emails we sent, time is going fast and we are really stressed about the situation

Move in with friends and family, contribute to their bills, try find a new place before you brown your hosts off.

jooksavage

CruelCoin wrote: »

You can extend that if it's motoway.

I'm 60km but only 1 hour to city centre dublin, for around 1/3 of the rental costs...

Yeah it mightn't be a very nice thought, moving down the sticks. When we worked in Dublin we had no choice but to move out to Kildare. As per above, we got a place for under half the cost of a Dublin equivalent.

Sparks43

Landlord must give you a notice to quit

Then head straight here

http://www.homelessdublin.ie

iwillhtfu

Wabbit Ears wrote: »

Great advice. My sister just moved to Carlow and she works in Naas. fair distance but its motorway miles.

That's no distance at all and as you say all motorway the hardest part is getting into and out of Naas.

OP look further afield I don't know how people manage with rent prices in Dublin the way they are.

C3PO

Sparks43 wrote: »

Landlord must give you a notice to quit

Then head straight here

http://www.homelessdublin.ie

When two employed people, probably with decent income, have to consider declaring themselves homeless ... the system really has broken down!

Sparks43

C3PO wrote: »

When two employed people, probably with decent income, have to consider declaring themselves homeless ... the system really has broken down!

The system in this country hasn't broken down

It never worked in the first place

crossmolinalad

had a couple of years back a similar problem
Hung notes in the local supermarkets with my phone number on it
wont get the best houses (not up to standard) but got 5 phone calls and could move in the same day
Still live in it and renovating it in cooperation with the landlord and have it for peanuts

iwillhtfu

C3PO wrote: »

When two employed people, probably with decent income, have to consider declaring themselves homeless ... the system really has broken down!

It all depends on a few things firstly what's a decent income relative to where you live.

You'd manage in Leitrim probably on 40k combined.

If you want to live in the capital and busiest city in Ireland then 40k just ain't gonna cut it.

The issue with Ireland is that everything is to focused on Dublin and as such the demand is out of control.

Alanstrainor

OP see if you can take a day or two of holidays asap to focus on viewings and calling/emailing landlords to try and find something. If things are getting close then you have to up your game. Yes its really tough out there, but a professional couple with prior renting experience and full time jobs should be good candidates. Talk to friends, neighbours, family and ask if they know of anywhere or anyone looking to let a place, and ask in case of emergency if you could have somewhere to stay for a little while.

Best of luck.

Wexfordboy89

Maybe even see about house sitting even if its just for a couple of months until you can find somewhere.might sound stupid just a thought

Cushie Butterfield

Check the short term lets on the property websites e.g. http://www.rent.ie/short-lets/renting_dublin/south-dublin-city/

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Fol20

GGTrek wrote: »

Very bad advice in my opinion since if I put an ad in Daft with my phone number I would stay the whole day on the phone and more than half of the callers would be time wasters. Very difficult nowadays.
My suggestion to the OP, go outside daft: there are big groups in facebook called rent in Dublin or rent a room, ...
Start asking there. Think about a houseshare, think about living outside the city, think about how you approach the agents or landlords when you send email: make sure you present yourselves and especially your capability of paying the rent requested. Getting an email just saying: is there a slot free for the viewing? is a sure way to not getting a slot to the viewing.

I'm Completely disagree.having learned from experience I just ignore emails now. People that call at least put in the effort and are more likely not to be time wasters. On top of it, I can get a better feel of a person on the phone and if I'm happy to proceed, I will schedule a viewing.

dudara

A1404 wrote: »

we are currently renting apartment in Clonskeagh, I work in Stillorgan and my wife work in ballsbridge, we work kinda different times with only one car as she don't drive, we are looking ever in Bray wicklow area but no response from emails we sent, time is going fast and we are really stressed about the situation

You should be getting viewings at the very least, so if your emails are not receiving a response, you're either not fast enough or stand out enough.

Draft a standard email to send, which is professional in tone. State that you are interested in the property, give a brief description of you both, attach references if you have them. Request a viewing at their convenience, even outlining when you are free to view. Make sure you stand out from the "Hey bud, room still available?" crowd.

You also have to be prepared to put in the time. The last time we moved was about 3 years ago, and the market was starting to heat up even then. Thankfully, I had a lot of flexibility at work at that time, and I was able to pop out for viewings at very short notice. I rejected about 3 properties due to the poor standards, was not accepted for 1 and then was successful on the 5th. I was a little unprepared for the first one, but quickly copped on to prepare a folder with work references and landlord references and have that with us when we viewed. Always made sure to attend viewing well-dressed etc.

It might also be worth getting in touch with estate agents who specialise in rentals. They may be able to direct you to properties before they come onto the market.

emo72

This country is a disaster. This is a national emergency now. On top of the health emergency. I'm telling yas, the only solution is another revolution. That's my mantra now.

jamesthepeach

A1404 wrote: »

we are currently renting apartment in Clonskeagh, I work in Stillorgan and my wife work in ballsbridge, we work kinda different times with only one car as she don't drive, we are looking ever in Bray wicklow area but no response from emails we sent, time is going fast and we are really stressed about the situation

Bray is one of the most in demand areas.
Try going further south. Wicklow, rathdrum, arklow. All served by bus to stillorgan and ballbridge and train to close ballbridge too.
Get cheaper rent even if you want to go further.

Try Airbnb for short term too if you don't want to commute. Ask your current landlord if he knows anyone who can help too.

jamesthepeach

C3PO wrote: »

When two employed people, probably with decent income, have to consider declaring themselves homeless ... the system really has broken down!

But they aren't really homeless. That's a total eexageration. They are just too fussy.
Plenty of people commute to Dublin. Some people think that everyone working in Dublin can live in Dublin. Not so.
And with less and less properties available for rent in Dublin this is the new way it's going to be. The next problem will be the traffic's is going to get far worse than it already is too.

jamesthepeach

dudara wrote: »

You should be getting viewings at the very least, so if your emails are not receiving a response, you're either not fast enough or stand out enough.

Draft a standard email to send, which is professional in tone. State that you are interested in the property, give a brief description of you both, attach references if you have them. Request a viewing at their convenience, even outlining when you are free to view. Make sure you stand out from the "Hey bud, room still available?" crowd.

prepare a folder with work references and landlord references and have that with us when we viewed.

A thousand times . This ^^^^

Giblet

jamesthepeach wrote: »

But they aren't really homeless. That's a total eexageration. They are just too fussy.
Plenty of people commute to Dublin. Some people think that everyone working in Dublin can live in Dublin. Not so.
And with less and less properties available for rent in Dublin this is the new way it's going to be. The next problem will be the traffic's is going to get far worse than it already is too.

Not everyone drives

jamesthepeach

Giblet wrote: »

Not everyone drives

Well that would be why I suggested places with trains and buses to the op.

tea_and_cake

jamesthepeach wrote: »

But they aren't really homeless. That's a total eexageration. They are just too fussy.
Plenty of people commute to Dublin. Some people think that everyone working in Dublin can live in Dublin. Not so.
And with less and less properties available for rent in Dublin this is the new way it's going to be. The next problem will be the traffic's is going to get far worse than it already is too.

I personally think it is broken when someone who wants to live in the county they work is is classed as "too fussy". Also OP has said they looked in Bray. Commuting for 2 hours a day each way is not a good standard of living and not what I class as fussy. Public transport isn't amazing depending on where you live.

Best of luck OP.

jamesthepeach

tea_and_cake wrote: »

I personally think it is broken when someone who wants to live in the county they work is is classed as "too fussy". Also OP has said they looked in Bray. Commuting for 2 hours a day each way is not a good standard of living and not what I class as fussy. Public transport isn't amazing depending on where you live.

Best of luck OP.

Hardly a reason to be called homeless though because you might have to take an hour's commute each way and you don't feel like it.
The word homeless has been diluted in Ireland.

jimmycrackcorm

A1404 wrote:

we are currently renting apartment in Clonskeagh, I work in Stillorgan and my wife work in ballsbridge, we work kinda different times with only one car as she don't drive, we are looking ever in Bray wicklow area but no response from emails we sent, time is going fast and we are really stressed about the situation

Move somewhere that you can get a train or bus and use the car if necessary.

y0ssar1an22

Sorry to hear about the situation a1404. Does/would your wife cycle? or would she do the 20/25 minute walk from ranaelagh luas to ballsbridge? if she would, this opens the luas line up for you. depending on your budget you can get a place for €1000 up to what ever you like.

sandyford €1400 per month: http://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-rent/sandyford/beacon-south-quarter-sandyford-dublin-1765891/
on luas lline

rathmines €1000 per month: http://www.daft.ie/dublin/flats-for-rent/rathmines/grove-park-rathmines-dublin-1766158/
30 min walk/15 min cycle. you drive

ranelagh €1010 per month: http://www.daft.ie/dublin/flats-for-rent/ranelagh/89-ranelagh-road-ranelagh-dublin-1766034/
same as above. bit quicker

sandyford €1395 per month: http://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-rent/sandyford/bracken-hill-blackglen-road-simons-ridge-sandyford-dublin-1763064/
on luas line.

ranelagh €1350 per month: http://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-rent/ranelagh/94-ranelagh-road-ranelagh-dublin-1766096/


anyway, theres a few suggestions. i dont know if they're suitable or not, but it may help.

Wesser

I think that the word fussy has the wrong conatations I think a better to put it would be that you have to lower your expectations. Wether or not that us right or wrong is a whole other discussion but fundamentally that is a better way if phrasing it.

Wesser

I think that the word fussy has the wrong conatations I think a better to put it would be that you have to lower your expectations. Wether or not that us right or wrong is a whole other discussion but fundamentally that is a better way if phrasing it.

Eire Go Brach

jamesthepeach wrote: »

But they aren't really homeless. That's a total eexageration. They are just too fussy.
Plenty of people commute to Dublin.

Absolutely ridiculous calling them fussy. Of course they have a right to live in Dublin or close to where they work. Who wants to spend all there time commuting. The problem is demand and high rents pushing people further away not the OP being fussy.

jamesthepeach

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Absolutely ridiculous calling them fussy. Of course they have a right to live in Dublin or close to where they work. Who wants to spend all there time commuting. The problem is demand and high rents pushing people further away not the OP being fussy.

Exactly.
Nobody wants to spend anytime commuting.
But the less you want to commute the more you pay. It's always been like that.
And now with the legislation knocking supply out of the market big time, the commutes for the same price point are getting bigger.
But homeless they are not.

Mycroft H

That's all very nice and all, but it's not going to find them a home. I'd love to live somewhere nicer but price drives me to live where I live. It's only temporary, much like I suspect this is.

However they'd rather be out on their ear, be 'homeless' instead of spending a 40-60 minutes on the Dart. That's fussy.

Full Marx

OP if you literally have no other option than sleeping in your car or a hostel I would just refuse to leave the house, you will get a while longer to find somewhere. Not ideal for the landlord but better than the streets.

Check the details of the notice the landlord gave you, he probably did something wrong.

Afroshack

Full Marx wrote: »

OP if you literally have no other option than sleeping in your car or a hostel I would just refuse to leave the house, you will get a while longer to find somewhere. Not ideal for the landlord but better than the streets.

Check the details of the notice the landlord gave you, he probably did something wrong.

In which case you've lost out on a reference and will make things even more difficult for yourselves. Lower your expectations right down and up your price range. If you have to commute for a year, tighten your belts or get another car, so be it.

Guy:Incognito

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

Absolutely ridiculous calling them fussy. Of course they have a right to live in Dublin or close to where they work. Who wants to spend all there time commuting. The problem is demand and high rents pushing people further away not the OP being fussy.

A right ? Nobody has a "right " to live anywhere they can't afford or there isn't any accomodation.

Do every one of the 5m people in the country have a "right" to live on Dublin if they want to?

Sparks43

I'm lost

At what point did the op say they were fussy?

They said in a post that wicklow would suit as well.
Some of the remarks about being homeless are well off the mark and quite disgusting

Donal55

If the OP gets time I believe he and his wife should also call or visit all their local TDs, of all parties and none and make them aware of their circumstances.

I'm of the view that most TDs probably assume that those who are homeless are those who are either on the dole, single mothers, on drink or drugs, involved in crime or those who want a 'forever home', as they're described on here.

Perhaps if politicians actually saw young, married,productive members of society becoming homeless they might address it with a tad more urgency.
In contrast to Damian English's performance on SOR this morning.

Good luck OP to you and your wife for the future.

Full Marx

Full Marx wrote: »

OP if you literally have no other option than sleeping in your car or a hostel I would just refuse to leave the house, you will get a while longer to find somewhere. Not ideal for the landlord but better than the streets.

Check the details of the notice the landlord gave you, he probably did something wrong.

And where will the LL live that needs the place back for his own use?

Overstaying is not an option, present as homeless if necessary but you can't stay in another persons property.

Try Gumtree as well as daft and myhome etc. I found my current property in there.

The best of luck to you. I know it seems very dim right now.

TheQuietFella

emo72 wrote: »

This country is a disaster. This is a national emergency now. On top of the health emergency. I'm telling yas, the only solution is another revolution. That's my mantra now.

From where are you starting the revolution?

mrslancaster

nothing new here - our first house was in leixlip, we had only one car and worked in D7 & D4.

No M50 that time either just old country roads and we commuted for 8 years until we could afford to move, not easy trying to juggle commute, jobs then kids.

We would have loved to live in Dublin 4 or 6 and nearer to work & family but we just couldn't afford it,

Semms to me things haven't changed a whole lot

hopefully OP you will find somewhere nice that you can afford soon & be able to move closer to where you want when more houses are built or prices level out a bit.

Autochange

Book a flight and get out of this backwater while you can.

A1404

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

Sorry to hear about the situation a1404. Does/would your wife cycle? or would she do the 20/25 minute walk from ranaelagh luas to ballsbridge? if she would, this opens the luas line up for you.

ranelagh €1350 per month: http://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-rent/ranelagh/94-ranelagh-road-ranelagh-dublin-1766096/


anyway, theres a few suggestions. i dont know if they're suitable or not, but it may help.

Thanks a lot for your time sharing thos links, to be honnest we emailed most of them, either no answer from them or an answer saying that the viewing is fully booked....

Thanks to everyone for helpful suggestions and comments.

Its very stressful and depressing that with your own money and cannot rent a place to call home. time is flying, I will just keep looking this week hopefully to get somethings.

WoollyRedHat

Sorry to hear OP. We are in the middle of a crisis and government are so slow to act. We desperately need emergency legislation and to quash the likes of Teagasc and the County Councils who are inhibiting progress in stock.

Have you thought about digs too, for now at least. Some B & B's might be willing to negotiate short term lets for a discount..might be worth ringing some.