Kids aged 12 can't run, catch a ball and have poor motor skills.

Shinbin223

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/revealed-irish-kids-aged-12-cannot-run-jump-catch-or-even-hit-a-ball-36043842.html

A study undertaken by the GAA and DCU has found the poor motor skills of 12 year olds, not being able to catch a ball with two hands or use a bat to hit a ball.
As with all of these reports, there may be some exaggeration but the main issues raised are scary enough in my view.

Prickly Pete

Shinbin223 wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/revealed-irish-kids-aged-12-cannot-run-jump-catch-or-even-hit-a-ball-36043842.html

A study undertaken by the GAA and DCU has found the poor motor skills of 12 year olds, not being able to catch a ball with two hands or use a bat to hit a ball.
As with all of these reports, there may be some exaggeration but the main issues raised are scary enough in my view.

They've obviously focussed this study on people from Wicklow only.It explains a lot.

Danjamin1

Can't say I find this surprising, a lot of parents go to move seems to be to shove their kids in front of a screen to entertain them. It's amazing the amount of proper fat kids you see around, not just slightly chubby but really fat. Usually with some form of fried or sugary food in hand. I've no kids myself but I like to think I'll be active with them when I eventually do!

Syphonax

Prickly Pete wrote: »

They've obviously focussed this study on people from Wicklow only.It explains a lot.

I take it you're born and bred from Wicklow then yeah? explains a lot.

Atoms for Peace

Sounds like me at that age with the scares on my knees to prove it. Do we really need a study to tell us kids can be clumbsy the real story here is the lack of physical activity.

Grayson

I was fecking useless at that stuff as a kid. I was ok at football but my hand eye coordination was useless. Hurling, tennis, hocky... useless at them all.
However when i got to university I joined the fencing club. I was great at it. Captained the team and even went to international competitions.

I wonder if there's different types of hand-eye coordination? It would explain why I was useless at so many things but good at another. Might also be able to explain some of those results regarding motor skills.

Kylo Ren

Excellent. They'll be far easier to catch and eat.

gordongekko

That's not the story here. The article goes onto say

Their motor skills are so bad they exercise as if they are in their 30s or older, whenever they have to take part in physical activities or sports.

So why in the name of God can't someone in their 30s catch a ball?

suicide_circus

If they can dodge a wrench, they can dodge a ball.

Syphonax

gordongekko wrote: »

That's not the story here. The article goes onto say

Their motor skills are so bad they exercise as if they are in their 30s or older, whenever they have to take part in physical activities or sports.

So why in the name of God can't someone in their 30s catch a ball?

Cus they're white?

The_Valeyard

suicide_circus wrote: »

If they can dodge a wrench, they can dodge a ball.

Probably cant.

The_Valeyard

Syphonax wrote: »

Cus they're white?

Wascist.

noaddedsugar

My kid has dyspraxia, he's 10. The chances of him being able to hit a ball with a bat are slim to none. He just learnt to ride a bike this year and that was massive achievement for him. But yeah people will look at him and judge us as being rubbish parents who just stick him in front of gadgets.

flutered

back in the day things were the same, in our club the first thing needed to be taught to kids was how to walk properly

Syphonax

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Wascist.

Flaggot

jimgoose

<Slams mag home on 1911 Colt and pulls the slide> Now you goin' dance, Fat Boy. :cool:

Dravokivich

When I was a kid I couldn't hit a ball with a bat. So I didn't play any of those games. What's the big deal?

An issue that's been considered lately, is the availability for children brought up in emergency care or hotels, to have somewhere to socialise or play with other kids.

PandaPoo

noaddedsugar wrote: »

My kid has dyspraxia, he's 10. The chances of him being able to hit a ball with a bat are slim to none. He just learnt to ride a bike this year and that was massive achievement for him. But yeah people will look at him and judge us as being rubbish parents who just stick him in front of gadgets.

My son has CP and is pretty bad at most sports. He's trying harder now whereas before he just didn't want to be bad at it so wouldn't give it a good go.

Obviously this article isn't including children with disabilities, but you definitely get comments and looks. My son was on his scooter earlier while wearing a cast, he wears it for his cerebral palsy not because he broke a leg or anything. Some old lady told me I'm a bad mother for letting him use a scooter when he's obviously after breaking a leg, I must not care about him. Christ people need to mind their own f*cking business.

flutered

Danjamin1 wrote: »

Can't say I find this surprising, a lot of parents go to move seems to be to shove their kids in front of a screen to entertain them. It's amazing the amount of proper fat kids you see around, not just slightly chubby but really fat. Usually with some form of fried or sugary food in hand. I've no kids myself but I like to think I'll be active with them when I eventually do!

in the city last week i saw two obese kids walking out of a cheepo outlet, followed by an equally obese adult, who immediatly handed the kids a high calorie sports drink each

Pwindedd

gordongekko wrote: »

So why in the name of God can't someone in their 30s catch a ball?

43 here and the only thing I can catch is a cold

gctest50

PandaPoo wrote: »

......Some old lady told me I'm a bad mother for letting him use a scooter when he's obviously after breaking a leg, I must not care about him. Christ people need to mind their own f*cking business.

try ask the next one " Where are your children then ?"

dub_skav

Study run in partr by the GAA explains the bat thing.
Now child, can you hit the ball with this here west brit bat at all?

No, oh terrible shame

jimgoose

dub_skav wrote: »

Study run in partr by the GAA explains the bat thing.
Now child, can you hit the ball with this here west brit bat at all?

No, oh terrible shame

Batting against a fast-bowler requires much the same skill-set as putting a sliotar over the bar at fifty yards. I really wouldn't bother bringing that into it.

Mrs OBumble

Pwindedd wrote: »

43 here and the only thing I can catch is a cold

Adults in denial is part of the problem.

Yes, there are kids with disabilities. And un-coordianted kids. They aren't who the story is about.

But the proportion who are just fat and molly-coddled has increased hugely (pun absolutely deliberate). And most parents aren't even spotting that their kids are too fat.

Danjamin1

You have to feel for the kids, it's not their fault. Presumably kids haven't changed since I was one & they still want to run & play when they can but with the restrictions schools place on activity it can't be easy either. I remember there was no running in the yard when I was in school but the grass was fair game. Now you hear about parents wanting to sue schools cos their precious little fat snowflakes fell & hurt themselves when playing. It's another case of dangerisation gone mad.

I get where people are coming from when they explain that their kids may have developmental diabilities but surely half of the kids included in the study didn't suffer from the same.

dub_skav

jimgoose wrote: »

Batting against a fast-bowler requires much the same skill-set as putting a sliotar over the bar at fifty yards. I really wouldn't bother bringing that into it.

I more meant that they would be glaring at the child for holding a tool of the invader, I'll see myself out

cml387

I presume this is a study that has been testing the motor skills of 12 year olds for 40 years and that this survey shows that they've been getting worse.

Or possibly a one- off press release "survey" that is bullsh!t?

corner of hells

I think the article and the OP are trying to make the point that significant amounts of kids are being reared indoors with little or no encouragement to engage in any activities outdoors .
Years ago kids spent hours out and about roaming around not just hitting a ball with a bit but getting up to all sorts.
I would include robbing orchards and chased by gamers and gardai along with fighting with kids from other estates along with making our own redbull type carts never the hours spent fishing.

jimgoose

dub_skav wrote: »

I more meant that they would be glaring at the child for holding a tool of the invader, I'll see myself out

You'd be surprised, there's a lot of it about - I'll be at Silly Mid-Wicket, chunter over for a shot of tea and a cucumber sandwich.

diomed

It is the attitude of adults that is to blame.
My mother's house is in a gated community of about 15 houses.
There is a lovely bit of grass there, about 20 yards x 10 yards. No ball games allowed.

Vince135792003

Replace 30 minutes of religion teaching per day with 30 minutes of additional PE.

diomed

This is not a religion bashing thread.

Vince135792003

diomed wrote: »

This is not a religion bashing thread.

Not looking to bash. I am a fairly regular church goer who teaches at primary level. Currently religion is allocated 150 minutes a week. PE is allocated 60 minutes. There is room for adjustment there.

angiogoir

Simple explanation, health n safety mentality.

mikeymouse

Young lads can become very dexterous very quickly at that age,
albeit only one handed

beauf

Shinbin223 wrote: »

http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/revealed-irish-kids-aged-12-cannot-run-jump-catch-or-even-hit-a-ball-36043842.html

A study undertaken by the GAA and DCU has found the poor motor skills of 12 year olds, not being able to catch a ball with two hands or use a bat to hit a ball.
As with all of these reports, there may be some exaggeration but the main issues raised are scary enough in my view.

What are they comparing the study with? Did they do the same test 5 or 10 yrs ago? Perhaps they are only realizing now the disparity in ability in kids because they've never tested for it before.

Not everyone has the same natural ability regarding co-ordination. Its not always about fitness. I don't think you improve your ability to hit a ball by running marathons, you do it by hitting a ball a lot. Some people have a natural ability that others don't.

Kids sports also mainly only encourage kids with natural ability. because they want to win stuff. Those that do it for exercise, or social skills are often excluded and discouraged. The fact that 99% of the population will only ever do sports for exercise or fun, seems to have been lost somewhere.

A lost of schools are built with no sports ground, or playing fields. We prefer as a society to let the developers built right up to schools especially new ones.

nice_guy80

No running in school at break times - wtf? children learn how to move in the chaos of other children moving.

No playgrounds or climbing frames in schools - wtf? every school should have one!

Playgrounds closed due to public liability insurance costs - claim culture from silly greedy parents

Children sitting inside on computers all day - get outside parents and bring them with you!

Children learn all their behaviour from their parents and those around them. If the guardians are lazy, the children will be.


As a GAA coach I couldn't care if children can kick a ball (we kicked each other), throw a ball (we threw stones as kids) or swing a bat (we just swung random sticks at each other) as long as they are out running, jumping, landing, rolling, crawling, climbing and using their bodies for exercise

razorblunt

gordongekko wrote: »

That's not the story here. The article goes onto say

Their motor skills are so bad they exercise as if they are in their 30s or older, whenever they have to take part in physical activities or sports.

So why in the name of God can't someone in their 30s catch a ball?

All the good men are married?

andekwarhola

Isn't Gaelic football just about shouldering other players and assaulting referees anyway?

Kids that aren't any good at ball sports might be OK at other activities like swimming, martial arts or gymnastics etc

Syphonax

Vince135792003 wrote: »

Not looking to bash. I am a fairly regular church goer who teaches at primary level. Currently religion is allocated 150 minutes a week. PE is allocated 60 minutes. There is room for adjustment there.

That depends on whether you want to be more healthy in spirit or in mind and body.

r93kaey5p2izun

These seem like very basic skills that should come naturally? I'm in my 30s and I can do all these things and I could as a child too. I'm not a sporty person, and I dodged PE as much as I could as a teen. I never played outside because the place was infested with antisocial scummy behaviour, running in the yard was banned in my school right back in the 80s and there was no opportunity to get involved in local teams. I feel there must be something else at play if children fail at such basic tasks, beyond simply lack of physical activity.

Syphonax

andekwarhola wrote: »

Isn't Gaelic football just about shouldering other players and assaulting referees anyway?

Dont forget brawling, with parents living through their kids forcing them to play a sport that the parents themselves probably like but the kids hate.

jimgoose

Syphonax wrote: »

Dont forget brawling, with parents living through their kids forcing them to play a sport that the parents themselves probably like but the kids hate.

YE WERE FUCKIN' USHELESS!!!

Syphonax

jimgoose wrote: »

YE WERE FUCKIN' USHELESS!!!

Whats the vid I cant watch in work? A good el brawl?

jimgoose

Syphonax wrote: »

Whats the vid I cant watch in work? A good el brawl?

The great Timmy Ryan, hurling coach extraordinaire.

Alf Veedersane

Syphonax wrote: »

That depends on whether you want to be more healthy in spirit or in mind and body.

That's what I put my spiritual health down to alright....those extra 30 minutes spent at it in school across a week which might otherwise have been spent doing something pointless.

corner of hells

corner of hells wrote: »

I think the article and the OP are trying to make the point that significant amounts of kids are being reared indoors with little or no encouragement to engage in any activities outdoors .
Years ago kids spent hours out and about roaming around not just hitting a ball with a bit but getting up to all sorts.
I would include robbing orchards and chased by gamers and gardai along with fighting with kids from other estates along with making our own redbull type carts never the hours spent fishing.

I imagine them throwing dice at you

corner of hells

Deleted User wrote: »

corner of hells wrote: »

I think the article and the OP are trying to make the point that significant amounts of kids are being reared indoors with little or no encouragement to engage in any activities outdoors .
Years ago kids spent hours out and about roaming around not just hitting a ball with a bit but getting up to all sorts.
I would include robbing orchards and chased by gamers and gardai along with fighting with kids from other estates along with making our own redbull type carts never the hours spent fishing.

I imagine them throwing dice at you

ðŸ˜
I'd a tough childhood.

judeboy101

Not allowed run in most school yards. The Gods of H&S are cruel masters.

Syphonax

jimgoose wrote: »

The great Timmy Ryan, hurling coach extraordinaire.

Nods clueless in your direction thinking "who the fook is he on about?" :pac:"

Syphonax

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

That's what I put my spiritual health down to alright....those extra 30 minutes spent at it in school across a week which might otherwise have been spent doing something pointless.

Pointless like keeping fit?