Personal Trainer

Nobby kiedy

Hello,

I am soon to sign up for a personal trainer course, but now I don't know if I want this, as I heard people tend to work all day, 12 or so hours. I don't want this as I want to keep myself fit too.

My question is, how does a day of Personal Trainer looks like? Is it very that busy?

Thanks. Hope I get some good answers.

Alf Veedersane

If you're good enough, you'll be able to work the hours you want, within reason.

Being good enough is the hard part. A course won't do it. You're likely to need to work under a well-respected trainer to learn from them.

Of course that's not the only way but in a market that's becoming more saturated by the day, you'll need to be able to sell yourself to people.

There are plenty of threads here on moving from getting a piece of paper to say you're a qualified PT to being a working PT. You can do a search for them and the inputs from Transform, Hanley and COH in particular

Transform

Nobby kiedy wrote: »

Hello,

I am soon to sign up for a personal trainer course, but now I don't know if I want this, as I heard people tend to work all day, 12 or so hours. I don't want this as I want to keep myself fit too.

My question is, how does a day of Personal Trainer looks like? Is it very that busy?

Thanks. Hope I get some good answers.

Typical day -
Clients from about 6am to 8am, break till 930am ish during which I'm mailing clients, writing programs or maybe even do a Vat return.

930-1pm clients

1-4pm train myself and do more admin

4-8pm more clients

Repeat 20yrs

This time of the year can be less busy (not for me as I've a ton on right now) as clients are away.

Basic take home message - if you want to earn a decent wage and remain self employed you're going to be working far far more than you possibly thought.

Nervous Wreck

Transform wrote: »

Typical day -
Clients from about 6am to 8am, break till 930am ish during which I'm mailing clients, writing programs or maybe even do a Vat return.

930-1pm clients

1-4pm train myself and do more admin

4-8pm more clients

Repeat 20yrs

This time of the year can be less busy (not for me as I've a ton on right now) as clients are away.

Basic take home message - if you want to earn a decent wage and remain self employed you're going to be working far far more than you possibly thought.

Take this with a bit of a pinch of salt. This is only what it's like if you're a successful PT. You're much more likely to be a lot less busy and really poor.

Transform

Nervous Wreck wrote: »

Take this with a bit of a pinch of salt. This is only what it's like if you're a successful PT. You're much more likely to be a lot less busy and really poor.

Sorry yes I should have said that.

Yes basically a bank will laugh at you for even car loan unless you're making good money and even then most trainers pi$$ it all away pretending to be ballers

Deshi Basara

Speaking from experience as a relatively new PT myself - you really have to put a serious shift in to make any worth while income in this market.

Not only do you need to establish your own identity, but you'll be up against other, more experienced trainers with a large client base and respect within the business already.

A big saving grace is that most people you'll meet are sound and will help you along the way if they see you have a good head on your shoulders.

You certainly can train yourself during this period, but your own workouts may take a hit while you're getting your certs and after when you're trying to get the word out.

It's a tough nut to crack but it can be great fun if you're willing to work hard at it.

Best of luck with whatever you choose to do.

Transform

Deshi Basara wrote: »

Speaking from experience as a relatively new PT myself - you really have to put a serious shift in to make any worth while income in this market.

Not only do you need to establish your own identity, but you'll be up against other, more experienced trainers with a large client base and respect within the business already.

A big saving grace is that most people you'll meet are sound and will help you along the way if they see you have a good head on your shoulders.

You certainly can train yourself during this period, but your own workouts may take a hit while you're getting your certs and after when you're trying to get the word out.

It's a tough nut to crack but it can be great fun if you're willing to work hard at it.

Best of luck with whatever you choose to do.

i might add that if the OP is already thinking about time off to train then maybe you're not entering into the industry for the right reasons.

Alf Veedersane

Which course gives you a 9-5 PT job at the end?

Asking for a friend.

Transform

Alf Veedersane wrote: »

Which course gives you a 9-5 PT job at the end?

Asking for a friend.

9-5 is part time PT, lol

But honestly its just not suited to most and there are an increasing number of people leaving the industry as they have to move on to actually doing adult things now and realise that they cant survive on the money they get paid, the hope of becoming sponsored so they can get free stuff and that their content isnt bringing any added value to the reader when its just another girl showing their red rum in every video and the guy acts like every guy I will do my best to ensure my daughter (in the future) never ever dates.

Jayesdiem

Without naming and in no particular order, the amount of arse-licking, naysaying, self-aggrandising, self-indulgent and negative sh1t in the space of eight posts here is nauseating. To the OP, give it a good lash if you're passionate about it. If you are the type that won't take no for an answer, you'll find your niche.

jimbobaloobob

What are ballers? Transform mentioned it up a few posts.

Transform

jimbobaloobob wrote: »

What are ballers? Transform mentioned it up a few posts.

a person thats got a truck ton of money and behaves like Dan B - https://www.instagram.com/danbilzerian/?hl=en

Alf Veedersane

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Without naming and in no particular order, the amount of arse-licking, naysaying, self-aggrandising, self-indulgent and negative sh1t in the space of eight posts here is nauseating. To the OP, give it a good lash if you're passionate about it. If you are the type that won't take no for an answer, you'll find your niche.

If someone came in an said "I was thinking of doing accounting in college but I heard there are long hours when you qualify and I don't think I want that" then people would be inclined to advise then accounting isn't for them.

If the OP had said he was passionate about being a trainer, the answers would have been different and more encouraging.

But there are a lot of people who will think that it's a case of getting a cert and posting more regularly on Instagram. Even if they don't think it's that easy, they probably don't understand the reality of how hard it is to establish it. I know I certainly didn't, but over time here you get an appreciation of how hard that is from the various people who post here and who have walked that path.

If the OP was put off by the concept of having to work long days, then it's nor harm painting that picture. If they know what's involved and want to go ahead, that's someone who really wants it.

Transform

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Without naming and in no particular order, the amount of arse-licking, naysaying, self-aggrandising, self-indulgent and negative sh1t in the space of eight posts here is nauseating. To the OP, give it a good lash if you're passionate about it. If you are the type that won't take no for an answer, you'll find your niche.

Im going to assume you're talking about me so to address that -

I answered the OP original question which was what does a typical day look like but then expanded upon how hard the industry actually is. I could be wrong but i thought that was more useful than a bog standard answer ending with "follow your dreams and #crush1t #garyvaynerchuck "

I breakdown exactly what the industry is like on this podcast i did with a course provider - http://elitefpa.ie/episode-8-dominic-munnelly/

(they're going a live call today at 11am re programming and being a trainer BTW, couldnt make the call to help out as busy with clients).

They themselves would suggest you know what you're getting into before dropping €2000 on a course you'll possibly never use.

What potential trainers need to know is that they have far more chance of success if they chatted with people that have a track record of working in the industry for years and are able to make a legit business of it long term and no amount of never taking no for an answer is going to help if youve not set yourself up for success first.

There are more interviews the guys did on that podcast with coaches I respect that will give the same advice.

Edit - I thought one if the main benefits of forums is honesty, openness and being frank when needed, that's why I enjoy them more than the oftentimes fake saccherine you can do it if you believe of insta and Facebook

deadlybuzzman

Transform wrote: »

the guy acts like every guy I will do my best to ensure my daughter (in the future) never ever dates.

Do you mean they squat high and have crappy mobility?

whippet

I would assume gaining success as a PT is no different to gaining a success as any other sole trader / tradesman.
You need to be willing to put in massive hours to get established; for that you need to very passionate about what you do; need to have a business head when needed and most importantly actually be good at what you do.

If you can do all these .. get a 9-5 and continue with flyfit to keep the gains

Transform

deadlybuzzman wrote: »

Do you mean they squat high and have crappy mobility?

Yes but it's more the attitude that gets me and the overuse of "bro"

Jayesdiem

Transform wrote: »

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Without naming and in no particular order, the amount of arse-licking, naysaying, self-aggrandising, self-indulgent and negative sh1t in the space of eight posts here is nauseating. To the OP, give it a good lash if you're passionate about it. If you are the type that won't take no for an answer, you'll find your niche.

Im going to assume you're talking about me so to address that -

I answered the OP original question which was what does a typical day look like but then expanded upon how hard the industry actually is. I could be wrong but i thought that was more useful than a bog standard answer ending with "follow your dreams and #crush1t #garyvaynerchuck "

I breakdown exactly what the industry is like on this podcast i did with a course provider - http://elitefpa.ie/episode-8-dominic-munnelly/

(they're going a live call today at 11am re programming and being a trainer BTW, couldnt make the call to help out as busy with clients).

They themselves would suggest you know what you're getting into before dropping €2000 on a course you'll possibly never use.

What potential trainers need to know is that they have far more chance of success if they chatted with people that have a track record of working in the industry for years and are able to make a legit business of it long term and no amount of never taking no for an answer is going to help if youve not set yourself up for success first.

There are more interviews the guys did on that podcast with coaches I respect that will give the same advice.

Edit - I thought one if the main benefits of forums is honesty, openness and being frank when needed, that's why I enjoy them more than the oftentimes fake saccherine you can do it if you believe of insta and Facebook

There is nothing wrong with honesty and openness. You obviously won't agree with my comments but that is what I was aiming for myself. I don't post that often here but do read a bit and I feel most of your "help" seeks to discourage while also furthering your own reputation. It hardly comes across as altruistic or selfless. Even in this thread you've mentioned twice that you are too busy (or something to that effect). Likewise, advice will often be given with a link to a podcast you did, your own blog (I'm pretty sure you have/had one) or your (brother's?) gym in Kildare. There is a lot of self-promotion intertwined with your advice is what I am trying to say. A cynic might think you are discouraging entry to the field. If the OPs life circumstances are suitable they are better off trying and to be not left wondering rather than not trying at all.

Brian?

Jayesdiem wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with honesty and openness. You obviously won't agree with my comments but that is what I was aiming for myself. I don't post that often here but do read a bit and I feel most of your "help" seeks to discourage while also furthering your own reputation. It hardly comes across as altruistic or selfless. Even in this thread you've mentioned twice that you are too busy (or something to that effect). Likewise, advice will often be given with a link to a podcast you did, your own blog (I'm pretty sure you have/had one) or your (brother's?) gym in Kildare. There is a lot of self-promotion intertwined with your advice is what I am trying to say. A cynic might think you are discouraging entry to the field. If the OPs life circumstances are suitable they are better off trying and to be not left wondering rather than not trying at all.

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Jayesdiem

Why would I report him or his post? He didn't break any rules. My posts were relevant because they encouraged the OP to ignore the group think and maximise their opportunity, if it exists.

Brian?

Jayesdiem wrote: »

Why would I report him or his post? He didn't break any rules. My posts were relevant because they encouraged the OP to ignore the group think and maximise their opportunity, if it exists.

I asked that you PM me with any questions. Please don't reply in the thread again or it will lead to an infraction