Working life

timthumbni

Does anyone else think that working is one of the biggest cons ever pulled?

Working 5/6 days a week in the year 2017 seems absurd to me.

Also the fact that those on welfare seem to be better or as well off than those of us who actually are working makes no sense at all.

We are here for a short time. I understand the need for money to live etc but do we really need to work Monday to Friday, 9 to 5 etc?

Ninthlife

Thinly veiled Ive got an office job post!!!

SwD

timthumbni wrote: »

I understand the need for money to live etc but do we really need to work Monday to Friday, 9 to 5 etc?

No. Go on welfare. You'll be better off.

BillyBobBS

timthumbni wrote: »

Does anyone else think that working is one of the biggest cons ever pulled?

Working 5/6 days a week in the year 2017 seems absurd to me.

Also the fact that those on welfare seem to be better or as well off than those of us who actually are working makes no sense at all.

We are here for a short time. I understand the need for money to live etc but do we really need to work Monday to Friday, 9 to 5 etc?

Oh look another "those on welfare have two mercs in the driveway, go on two holidays a year and eat caviar for breakfast" thread. Who'd have thought it?

Solomon Pleasant

I'm a college student but this is something that has really been bothering me over the last year or so.

When I graduate it'll probably be in some kind of office job (if I get a job) where I'll probably be working for some manager who I quite dislike but I'll probably become similar to over the next 40 years. Anyway, work your life away while the founder becomes rich and you earn a wage which is sufficient for survival but not really sufficient for growth and self actualisation.

Perhaps this is just me being slightly anti capitalist as it seems to be the done thing. I view it as working your life away and I would imagine it could become my greatest regret.

I'm still in college though, studying to gain one of these jobs so I do feel very hypocritical at times.

Entrepreneurship is honestly the only viable solution that I can see as I don't see a life on social welfare as particularly fulfilling either.

snowflaker

Boards is beginning to crawl up its own hole to die sometimes.

Everyone has it better than me!!!! Cry me a river!

munster87

Sure what else would you be doing?

Ulysses Gaze

munster87 wrote: »

Sure what else would you be doing?

Living

SwD

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

I'm a college student but this is something that has really been bothering me over the last year or so.

When I graduate it'll probably be in some kind of office job (if I get a job) where I'll probably be working for some manager who I quite dislike but I'll probably become similar to over the next 40 years. Anyway, work your life away while the founder becomes rich and you earn a wage which is sufficient for survival but not really sufficient for growth and self actualisation.

Perhaps this is just me being slightly anti capitalist as it seems to be the done thing. I view it as working your life away and I would imagine it could become my greatest regret.

I'm still in college though, studying to gain one of these jobs so I do feel very hypocritical at times.

Entrepreneurship is honestly the only viable solution that I can see as I don't see a life on social welfare as particularly fulfilling either.

It sounds like you definitely made some bad choices on the old CAO.

Pac1Man

Snow is falling, all around us...

wally1990

http://extra.ie/news/irish-news/family-of-ten-were-on-too-much-welfare-to-get-a-home

A couple whose sole income from welfare payments totals €48,000 have taken a court case over getting pushed off the waiting list for a council house after having their eighth child

snowflaker

Working or not working?

Working gives you a sense of achievement and worth and a reason to get up each day.

Not having a job tears away at you.

DontThankMe

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Living

And how would you be "living" without a source of income?

Ulysses Gaze

wally1990 wrote: »

http://extra.ie/news/irish-news/family-of-ten-were-on-too-much-welfare-to-get-a-home

A couple whose sole income from welfare payments totals €48,000 have taken a court case over getting pushed off the waiting list for a council house after having their eighth child

It's all in the surname

SwD

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Living

Its not one or the other.

Science/Medicine. We live longer, healthier lives because of people who occupy their time working.

Ulysses Gaze

snowflaker wrote: »

Working or not working?

Working gives you a sense of achievement and worth and a reason to get up each day.

Not having a job tears away at you.

80% of Irish people are disengaged with their work and workplace.

They are only there for the cash.

D Trent

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

I'm a college student but this is something that has really been bothering me over the last year or so.

When I graduate it'll probably be in some kind of office job (if I get a job) where I'll probably be working for some manager who I quite dislike but I'll probably become similar to over the next 40 years. Anyway, work your life away while the founder becomes rich and you earn a wage which is sufficient for survival but not really sufficient for growth and self actualisation.

Perhaps this is just me being slightly anti capitalist as it seems to be the done thing. I view it as working your life away and I would imagine it could become my greatest regret.

I'm still in college though, studying to gain one of these jobs so I do feel very hypocritical at times.

Entrepreneurship is honestly the only viable solution that I can see as I don't see a life on social welfare as particularly fulfilling either.

Not necessarily

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0758758/

messy tessy

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

When I graduate it'll probably be in some kind of office job (if I get a job) where I'll probably be working for some manager who I quite dislike but I'll probably become similar to over the next 40 years. Anyway, work your life away while the founder becomes rich and you earn a wage which is sufficient for survival but not really sufficient for growth and self actualisation

So young and so bitter!

OldMrBrennan83

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Solomon Pleasant

SwD wrote: »

It sounds like you definitely made some bad choices on the old CAO.

Honestly, I do enjoy my course and I worked extremely hard to get into it. I get to study a foreign language as part of it which i find very interesting and stimulating, but the whole concept of going into an office for 5 days a week for the rest of my life seems like borderline madness.

It's probably a little but idealist of me to think otherwise but I would like to imagine that there is a way to live without conforming to the "work until you die" approach.

lazybones32

Ah tim, if you don't see your job as your way of supplying some service that people need, you are in the wrong job or are doing it for the wrong reasons.

Be glad you have a 40 hr week.

snowflaker

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

80% of Irish people are disengaged with their work.

They are only there for the cash.

If they weren't working they would notice the effect very quickly.

timthumbni

wally1990 wrote: »

http://extra.ie/news/irish-news/family-of-ten-were-on-too-much-welfare-to-get-a-home

A couple whose sole income from welfare payments totals €48,000 have taken a court case over getting pushed off the waiting list for a council house after having their eighth child

I know that's an extreme case but is does slightly take the piss...

munster87

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Living

You'd go mad. The living would go to your head. Would be fine not working for a month or two but after that the free time would kill you

SwD

Solomon Pleasant wrote: »

Honestly, I do enjoy my course and I worked extremely hard to get into it. I get to study a foreign language as part of it which i find very interesting and stimulating, but the whole concept of going into an office for 5 days a week for the rest of my life seems like borderline madness.

It's probably a little but idealist of me to think otherwise but I would like to imagine that there is a way to live without conforming to the "work until you die" approach.

As my grandmother used to say:

Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life.

Find a job that gives you purpose.

Solomon Pleasant

messy tessy wrote: »

So young and so bitter!

Young and bitter or realistic and future focused?

Solomon Pleasant

SwD wrote: »

As my grandmother used to say:

Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life.

Find a job that gives you purpose.

Believe me I'm trying to find it!

Ubbquittious

timthumbni wrote: »

Does anyone else think that working is one of the biggest cons ever pulled?

Working 5/6 days a week in the year 2017 seems absurd to me.

Also the fact that those on welfare seem to be better or as well off than those of us who actually are working makes no sense at all.

We are here for a short time. I understand the need for money to live etc but do we really need to work Monday to Friday, 9 to 5 etc?

Most people don't really provide anything valuable that society can't live without or even benefits from in any significant way.

Loads of people are working for companies who do little more than purchase cheap, often useless stuff from China to sell on over here. Often it's disposable plastic crap that the world would be better off without. Moving money around is also a huge business, as are lawyers who basically make their living from resolving (or excarberating) other people's petty squabbles.

Then you have industries that only exist because the government created a demand for them by law (BER assesors, 3rd party insurance providers)

Lots of things are just a money spinner. What seems a con to me is getting 1000s of young people to move to the city, pay a massive chunk of their wages on rent, get them to buy €7 pints, €4 coffees, €100s on designer garments made in China for a few cent. Some people really fall for that lifestyle but its sickening to see how much they spend and how little they actually get in return.

Ulysses Gaze

SwD wrote: »

As my grandmother used to say:

Do what you love and you'll never work a day in your life.

Find a job that gives you purpose.

Most people don't ever find that.

OldMrBrennan83

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Solomon Pleasant

D Trent wrote: »

Not necessarily

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0758758/

I've watched that film, I loved it!

Sadly, he doesn't exactly live very long. I loved his motives within the film but I'm not sure he found closure. A great story nonetheless.