Most immature adult (30+) that you know?

jeanjolie

I think it wouldn't be fair to criticize the 18-29 group of being immature as times have changed and more and more live at home.

But there's a certain point where someone doesn't garner respect because they haven't learned how to emulate the behaviors or social norms of society.

I don' t know what's worse, someone who is immature at first glance or what I find too often, adults who look and appear normal but their behavior, work ethics, and beliefs tell you that this person is a waster.

Tsipras

How could someone's beliefs tell you they're a 'waster'?

drake70

:P Me

Wanderer78

What's the definition of a 'waster'?

The Backwards Man

When you're twenty, you realise an odd person you thought was ok was a waster.

When you're forty, you realise half the people you thought were ok are wasters.

But the time you're sixty, you'll have realised most people are wasters.

whiskeygirl

If you can't think of anyone, then it's probably you.

Hugo Stiglitz

Every time I look in the mirror.

PokeHerKing

jeanjolie wrote:

I think it wouldn't be fair to criticize the 18-29 group of being immature as times have changed and more and more live at home.

How about you criticize no-one and worry about your own life.

You'll always be a waster to Bill Gates.

Hector Bellend

This has turned into the most work shy as opposed to the least mature

Permabear

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Winterlong

I dont know him personally but they say you are only as young as the woman you feel.
So Hugh Heffner must be very immature for his age.

alberto67

Someone I know is 34, lives with his parents and doesn't do much. He doesn't want to do any housekeeping, just goes food shopping every now and then. He plays video games most days and doesn't cook, his mother does that for him. He's flirting on FB with some teenagers he knows.

He went for a date with a woman of his age and managed to get her to pay for everything...

Wanderer78

alberto67 wrote: »

Someone I know is 34, lives with his parents and doesn't do much. He doesn't want to do any housekeeping, just goes food shopping every now and then. He plays video games most days and doesn't cook, his mother does that for him. He's flirting on FB with some teenagers he knows.

He went for a date with a woman of his age and managed to get her to pay for everything...

probably more complex issues at play

tomwaterford

Thank god,I'm not over 30 :D

jeanjolie

alberto67 wrote: »

He went for a date with a woman of his age and managed to get her to pay for everything...

I call B.S. on this last bit. I'm sorry but knowing how many men complain that women still want chivalry or expect whoever asks out to pay even though it's always the man, I find it very unlikely that a woman would pay for a guy.

Maybe though I'm mistaking him for an overweight nerd with social issues and wondering how he gets girls. He could be one of those 'posh' kids who likes living elegantly (dressing well, eating well, speaking well) but doesn't want to work for any of it.

Was the girl he dated hot?

alberto67

Wanderer78 wrote: »

probably more complex issues at play

You could be right, maybe other stuff going on in his life that I am not aware of, but I think he should make an effort and try to improve himself.

Wanderer78

alberto67 wrote: »

You could be right, maybe other stuff going on in his life that I am not aware of, but I think he should make an effort and try to improve himself.

human behaviour is complex particularly complex issues such as mental health issues and things such as autism etc. i never try judge people but of course i probably do like most other humans

Potential-Monke

I think i've been waiting for this thread...

Why does conforming to the social norms and expectations of society make you mature? Why do i have to be mature? Why should i have a family, mortgage a house and live the rest of my life in potential misery, all because society expects it?

Me, i'm 34. yes, i'm living at home, but i'm still getting settled after giving up being a Garda for 10 years. I had a house and mortgage and all the hardship that came with it. I had the long term girlfriend, but i ended it because i didn't want kids and she did.

And what's the harm with me? I'll never get a mortgage again, because a: i probably won't be able to afford one again, and b: i think it's a crazy thing to do now. I'm "immature" by society's standards, but i'm harming no one. I have a close group of good friends, and a large group of friends. I have no real responsibilities, other than helping out the parents at home. I wear mostly jeans and t-shirts, because that's what i'm comfortable in. I don't have any labels, i drive a 02 car, the windscreen is full.

I've a very dark sense of humour, and i believe everything is fair game. I push the boundaries of comedy, and i do it more to get a reaction than anything.

I'm a gamer, i've no interests in sports, and i don't drink very often if at all. As far as i'm concerned, i'm doing what i want to do. And i'm harming no one. I've no intention of ever having kids, and i'll be moving out within the next few months hopefully, new job started this week. So, on the outside, one would consider me "immature" because i haven't stuck to societal norms. And if you think that about someone living their own life, well, that's your problem, and says more about you than me (you and me are general terms, not directed at anyone).

So yeah, suck a Richard!

alberto67

jeanjolie wrote: »

I call B.S. on this last bit. I'm sorry but knowing how many men complain that women still want chivalry or expect whoever asks out to pay even though it's always the man, I find it very unlikely that a woman would pay for a guy.

Maybe though I'm mistaking him for an overweight nerd with social issues and wondering how he gets girls. He could be one of those 'posh' kids who likes living elegantly (dressing well, eating well, speaking well) but doesn't want to work for any of it.

Was the girl he dated hot?

Maybe it wasn't true but it's what he told us. There is always a chance that someone is boasting. I wouldn't be surprised that the woman paid...

Well, I think it's not fair to talk about somebody's physique. He doesn't seem to have trouble in finding dates. Whether they go out more than once is another question.

I don't know about that, never met her.

alberto67

Wanderer78 wrote: »

human behaviour is complex particularly complex issues such as mental health issues and things such as autism etc. i never try judge people but of course i probably do like most other humans

How true.

Tim Robbins

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I think i've been waiting for this thread...  

Why does conforming to the social norms and expectations of society make you mature?  Why do i have to be mature?  Why should i have a family, mortgage a house and live the rest of my life in potential misery, all because society expects it?  

Me, i'm 34.  yes, i'm living at home, but i'm still getting settled after giving up being a Garda for 10 years.  I had a house and mortgage and all the hardship that came with it.  I had the long term girlfriend, but i ended it because i didn't want kids and she did.  

And what's the harm with me?  I'll never get a mortgage again, because a: i probably won't be able to afford one again, and b: i think it's a crazy thing to do now.  I'm "immature" by society's standards, but i'm harming no one.  I have a close group of good friends, and a large group of friends.  I have no real responsibilities, other than helping out the parents at home.  I wear mostly jeans and t-shirts, because that's what i'm comfortable in.  I don't have any labels, i drive a 02 car, the windscreen is full.  

I've a very dark sense of humour, and i believe everything is fair game.  I push the boundaries of comedy, and i do it more to get a reaction than anything.  

I'm a gamer, i've no interests in sports, and i don't drink very often if at all.  As far as i'm concerned, i'm doing what i want to do.  And i'm harming no one.  I've no intention of ever having kids, and i'll be moving out within the next few months hopefully, new job started this week.  So, on the outside, one would consider me "immature" because i haven't stuck to societal norms.  And if you think that about someone living their own life, well, that's your problem, and says more about you than me (you and me are general terms, not directed at anyone).  

So yeah, suck a Richard!

Anyone who has been a cop for even a week isn't a waster. Fair play mate.

Bambi985

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I think i've been waiting for this thread...

Why does conforming to the social norms and expectations of society make you mature? Why do i have to be mature? Why should i have a family, mortgage a house and live the rest of my life in potential misery, all because society expects it?

Me, i'm 34. yes, i'm living at home, but i'm still getting settled after giving up being a Garda for 10 years. I had a house and mortgage and all the hardship that came with it. I had the long term girlfriend, but i ended it because i didn't want kids and she did.

And what's the harm with me? I'll never get a mortgage again, because a: i probably won't be able to afford one again, and b: i think it's a crazy thing to do now. I'm "immature" by society's standards, but i'm harming no one. I have a close group of good friends, and a large group of friends. I have no real responsibilities, other than helping out the parents at home. I wear mostly jeans and t-shirts, because that's what i'm comfortable in. I don't have any labels, i drive a 02 car, the windscreen is full.

I've a very dark sense of humour, and i believe everything is fair game. I push the boundaries of comedy, and i do it more to get a reaction than anything.

I'm a gamer, i've no interests in sports, and i don't drink very often if at all. As far as i'm concerned, i'm doing what i want to do. And i'm harming no one. I've no intention of ever having kids, and i'll be moving out within the next few months hopefully, new job started this week. So, on the outside, one would consider me "immature" because i haven't stuck to societal norms. And if you think that about someone living their own life, well, that's your problem, and says more about you than me (you and me are general terms, not directed at anyone).

So yeah, suck a Richard!

That sounds the antidote to immature to me. On the contrary, you went out and did the conventional things, decided they weren't for you, and are consciously taking another path.

That's very different from what I think the OP is talking about - effectively a man-child (or woman), who never tried anything, won't try anything, is basically living the same life they had at 18 when they're close to middle age and have learned the total amount of nothing about themselves along the way. No conscious decision-making, floating along waiting for people to take responsibility for them, never learned to pick up after themselves or have a serious conversation or make a big life decision, still has the same interests or friendships as when they were 15 years old.

Yeah I've met a few of them. Might have dated a few of them.

alberto67

Potential-Monke,

Great post. It shows that you aren't immature by any means. You've been proactive and probably inspired people.

jimgoose

"The Dude abides." I don't know about you, but I take comfort in that. It's good knowin' he's out there. The Dude. Takin' 'er easy for all us sinners. Shoosh, I sure hope he makes the finals.

Permabear

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Jesus Wept

PokeHerKing wrote: »

How about you criticize no-one and worry about your own life.

You'll always be a waster to Bill Gates.

Briefly a waster to Jeff Bezos

eviltwin

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Getting married isn't a sign of maturity. Far more mature to wait to marry the right person rather than get married in haste.

pablo128

Men don't mature. They just learn how to behave in public.

jimgoose

pablo128 wrote: »

Men don't mature. They just learn how to behave in public.

Yes we do. The more we mature, the more we don't give a monkey's fuck how we behave in public! :pac:

Lux23

F**k maturity. I hate it. I am finally being forced to save for a mortgage by my younger partner and I am very angry at him for wrecking my buzz.

jeanjolie

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Interesting...but where do you personally draw the line? A lot of people would call a student who gives out to an abusive teacher rude and disrespectful and perhaps immature even though I would disagree.

alberto67

alberto67 wrote: »

Someone I know is 34, lives with his parents and doesn't do much. He doesn't want to do any housekeeping, just goes food shopping every now and then. He plays video games most days and doesn't cook, his mother does that for him. He's flirting on FB with some teenagers he knows.

He went for a date with a woman of his age and managed to get her to pay for everything...

I bet he's on boards!

The Backwards Man

Lux23 wrote: »

F**k maturity. I hate it. I am finally being forced to save for a mortgage by my younger partner and I am very angry at him for wrecking my buzz.

Looks like Ronnie Van Zant was wrong. You can change a bird.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Have one older mate who's 31.

I love him but he still really hasn't matured or advanced too far from Sec school days. Drinking to excess Friday, Saturday, Sunday, regularly pulling sickies on the Monday. His Mum has to take his car keys away when he's drinking as he has a tendency to drive down to pub or off licence when heavily inebriated.

It's just a bit much at his age.

averagejoe123

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Have one older mate who's 31.

I love him but he still really hasn't matured or advanced too far from Sec school days. Drinking to excess Friday, Saturday, Sunday, regularly pulling sickies on the Monday. His Mum has to take his car keys away when he's drinking as he has a tendency to drive down to pub or off licence when heavily inebriated.

It's just a bit much at his age.

Sounds like your mate's an alcoholic

ToddyDoody

I find the majority of time someone refers to another as immature, it usually just means 'different from me'.

scamalert

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fair points but then again you could replace waster with farmer in your story and you get same result some people work all their life in same place then 40smth years later retire and dont have anything of interest to do,and you can summarize their life in single page, yet its no sign of maturity but a way of life one chooses to live,and there's plenty such people, that would fall into your definition as never done anything of what others would seem as total wasted lifestyle.

Jesus Wept

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Have one older mate who's 31.

I love him but he still really hasn't matured or advanced too far from Sec school days. Drinking to excess Friday, Saturday, Sunday, regularly pulling sickies on the Monday. His Mum has to take his car keys away when he's drinking as he has a tendency to drive down to pub or off licence when heavily inebriated.

It's just a bit much at his age.

Is he happy though?

odyssey06

Surely the test of maturity is whether you can stand on your own two feet, or are taking steps to get there... that you have a head on your shoulders and know how to use it to think for yourself; to know when to go with the flow... and when to stand firm.

If you do that, fine if you want to pick and choose from society's norms.
But being a freeloader isn't a sign of maturity, nor is it about deviating from norms, it's about being a useless lazy arse ugly bag of mostly water.

Sunny Disposition

Amazing that nowadays people think 29 is young to be mature!! 29!
Maturity keeps getting put off, suppose recession is a factor in that people in late 20s now didn't get jobs or move out of home or things like that until relatively late in life. But still, ffs, how has late 20s become essentially adolescence in many people's eyes? Im 36, so a bit older than that demographic but it's not like I'm harking back a century when I say people at the age of 29 should be standing on their own two feet for a long time:)

johnnyskeleton

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I think i've been waiting for this thread...

Why does conforming to the social norms and expectations of society make you mature? Why do i have to be mature? Why should i have a family, mortgage a house and live the rest of my life in potential misery, all because society expects it?

Me, i'm 34. yes, i'm living at home, but i'm still getting settled after giving up being a Garda for 10 years. I had a house and mortgage and all the hardship that came with it. I had the long term girlfriend, but i ended it because i didn't want kids and she did.

And what's the harm with me? I'll never get a mortgage again, because a: i probably won't be able to afford one again, and b: i think it's a crazy thing to do now. I'm "immature" by society's standards, but i'm harming no one. I have a close group of good friends, and a large group of friends. I have no real responsibilities, other than helping out the parents at home. I wear mostly jeans and t-shirts, because that's what i'm comfortable in. I don't have any labels, i drive a 02 car, the windscreen is full.

I've a very dark sense of humour, and i believe everything is fair game. I push the boundaries of comedy, and i do it more to get a reaction than anything.

I'm a gamer, i've no interests in sports, and i don't drink very often if at all. As far as i'm concerned, i'm doing what i want to do. And i'm harming no one. I've no intention of ever having kids, and i'll be moving out within the next few months hopefully, new job started this week. So, on the outside, one would consider me "immature" because i haven't stuck to societal norms. And if you think that about someone living their own life, well, that's your problem, and says more about you than me (you and me are general terms, not directed at anyone).

So yeah, suck a Richard!

This is one of the best things I've read on boards.ie in a long time!

DEFTLEFTHAND

Jesus Wept wrote: »

Is he happy though?

He's one of these jovial life of the party guys, great personality.

He never settled though, good looking guy, popular but is still plying at a job that he hates and living with his Mum and Dad at 31.

They smother him totally. He regrets not going to college and moving away and I tell him that it's still not too late to do it but he doesn't listen to me.

I do worry about him, because I love the guy and he I think he holds back a lot. I'd love to see him move on and do something productive and exploit his potential.

Sweetemotion

louise o'neill

Blaming the patriarchy and misogyny on everything.

Whilst living rent free in her Fathers home.

Hector Bellend

Brendan O'Carroll for dressing up as an elderly skanger.

Or is it the people that watch and pay in to watch him the problem

peckerhead

Is Conor McGregor thirty yet?

LadyMacBeth_

I'm 29, and I suppose in theory it might seem like I'm mature. I moved out at 21, I got married at 25 and I have a steady job, and a cat. I rarely go on wild nights out because I'm not able and couldn't be bothered anymore, I went camping yesterday and spent the evening playing scrabble with the missus and drinking rum. You'll also find me doing crosswords or knitting.

On the other hand though, I am like a woman-child. I never learned how to drive, I refuse to iron, I am currently wearing a t-shirt with a cat on it and most of my clothes look like the same sort of style that I wore in my teens, bootcut jeans that inevitably end up ripped and converse shoes that could do with a clean. My apartment is filled with a random collection of trinkets, a disco ball, colouring books and bubbles and lava lamps. You won't find matching crockery here. We have place mats with flamingos on them and right now the apartment has bunting strung up because it was my birthday (last month). I'll probably never grow up in that sense. I pull myself together and iron my work clothes (that are within the dress code). I spend all of my time when I'm at home in my pyjamas and if the mood takes me I'm quite happy to eat jellies or chocolate for breakfast on occasion.

dar100

Wanderer78 wrote: »

What's the definition of a 'waster'?

Cumming in a condom

alberto67

LadyMacBeth_ wrote: »

I'm 29, and I suppose in theory it might seem like I'm mature. I moved out at 21, I got married at 25 and I have a steady job, and a cat. I rarely go on wild nights out because I'm not able and couldn't be bothered anymore, I went camping yesterday and spent the evening playing scrabble with the missus and drinking rum. You'll also find me doing crosswords or knitting.

On the other hand though, I am like a woman-child. I never learned how to drive, I refuse to iron, I am currently wearing a t-shirt with a cat on it and most of my clothes look like the same sort of style that I wore in my teens, bootcut jeans that inevitably end up ripped and converse shoes that could do with a clean. My apartment is filled with a random collection of trinkets, a disco ball, colouring books and bubbles and lava lamps. You won't find matching crockery here. We have place mats with flamingos on them and right now the apartment has bunting strung up because it was my birthday (last month). I'll probably never grow up in that sense. I pull myself together and iron my work clothes (that are within the dress code). I spend all of my time when I'm at home in my pyjamas and if the mood takes me I'm quite happy to eat jellies or chocolate for breakfast on occasion.

Sounds like a fun life. Are you a man or a woman?

Stonedpilot

Most people are immature to some degree. How many adults are level headed rationed, reasoned adults in all decisions? Maybe 0.01% of the population. Posting of someone elses immaturity is ironically very very immature.


People on this are immature including the OP. Evidence?.

I think it's immature to want to have your opinion heard by total strangers, it's petty and self indulgent. Ergo all on this are immature as their opinions are gospel and so is mine. See what I'm getting at?

A truly mature adult wouldn't really care less what total strangers who lie pathologically on a online forum would think.

Most immature people ever are the Z list celebs on car crash tv like big brother. Totally OBSESSED with themselves and ego and act like 3 year olds

Am I immature?. Absolutely, am I a hypocrite. Yep takes one to know one!.

LadyMacBeth_

alberto67 wrote: »

Sounds like a fun life. Are you a man or a woman?

It is fun! I'm a woman married to a woman

alberto67

Stonedpilot wrote: »

Most people are immature to some degree. How many adults are level headed rationed, reasoned adults in all decisions? Maybe 0.01% of the population.

That is an immature statistic...