An Taisce

topper75

topper75 wrote: »

We are a republic in name only. How can a band of unqualified gobdaws just band together and receive that public money all for offering their opinion which is no greater than that of the man in the street?

But isn't it the essence of a democracy, that there is a group with access to some means to object when the likes of Johnny Ronan - who presumably has had massage debts written down at an expense to us that probably dwarves An Taisce's funding - rock up with teams of highly paid architects to submit his latest project.

suicide_circus

Any dealings I've had with them they've been ignorant f*ckers.

ToddyDoody

I remember a woman on Prime Time from An Taisce giving out about people using toilet fresheners and the like and the negative consequences of this for the environment.

Makes you wonder Is it the same for soap, shampoo etc.

Either way, i'd happily send them a steaming bag.

elperello

Here is a link to the 2015 accounts.

http://www.antaisce.org/sites/antaisce.org/files/2016-08-10-at-2015_financial_statements-signed.pdf

If anyone cares to suffer through it you will see that the Government funding is mostly for things like Green Schools, Blue Flag etc. that AT does on behalf of the Government.

It's mostly good stuff that is useful to society in general.

Its simply not true that we pay them 3.5 m per year to object to planning permissions.

elperello

ToddyDoody wrote: »

I remember a woman on Prime Time from An Taisce giving out about people using toilet fresheners and the like and the negative consequences of this for the environment.

Makes you wonder Is it the same for soap, shampoo etc.

Either way, i'd happily send them a steaming bag.

Here, check it out and weep for our watercourses.


https://www.greenlivingtips.com/articles/shampoo-and-the-planet.html

Arcade_Tryer

Deleted User wrote: »

But isn't it the essence of a democracy, that there is a group with access to some means to object when the likes of Johnny Ronan - who presumably has had massage debts written down at an expense to us that probably dwarves An Taisce's funding - rock up with teams of highly paid architects to submit his latest project.

Developers like that are a necessary evil for progress. An Taisce are an unnecessary evil standing in the way of progress.

Arcade_Tryer

Arcade_Tryer wrote: »

Developers like that are a necessary evil for progress. An Taisce are an unnecessary evil standing in the way of progress.

I think it's a bit more nuanced. I see developments like Ronan's Convention Centre as an eyesore. And when An Taisce stand up to Donald Trump and his sea wall to protect his golf course, I see them as far from an unnecessary evil.

bear1

And here we fcuking go again

http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/plan-for-dublins-last-georgian-mansion-opposed-457895.html

Night Falls

Considering the Department has also lodged an objection to this as well, I would have thought that this time they might have a point?

Kermit.de.frog

No. Look at the state of it.

Kermit.de.frog

Yamanoto wrote: »

I doubt they get everything right & I'd certainly like to see high rise development happening in the docklands & Dublin Port, but my gut tells me we'd be living somewhere with all the aesthetic appeal of Mogadishu, if FF, FG & Lab schlubs on DCC had been given carte blanche to develop the city centre as they saw fit.

We need to build for the 21st century and stop harping on about Georgian houses or we'll make no progress improving our cities.

Foxhound38

Professional busy bodies and progress delayers - and business prevention specialists to boot. They don't want anyone to be allowed to do anything.

Awful, infuriating organization.

bear1

Night Falls wrote: »

Considering the Department has also lodged an objection to this as well, I would have thought that this time they might have a point?

The place is abandoned, and looks utter crap. there is feck all space as there is.
Knock the thing down and build for the future not hold onto the past with every single building proposed.
And using the reasoning of its height (it seems to be a template they copy and paste for objections) is beyond madness.. 5 floors ffs

Foxhound38

Yamanoto wrote: »

I doubt they get everything right & I'd certainly like to see high rise development happening in the docklands & Dublin Port, but my gut tells me we'd be living somewhere with all the aesthetic appeal of Mogadishu, if FF, FG & Lab schlubs on DCC had been given carte blanche to develop the city centre as they saw fit.

We can't stay low rise forever in the capital - it's just not feasible to keep expanding out instead of up - Bray, Graystones and Celbridge are already colonies of Dublin. Our lack of infrastructure is already costing us dearly in terms of our capacity, this will only continue to cost us as brexit draws nearer.

AT need to get real about this.

bear1

Foxhound38 wrote: »

We can't stay low rise forever in the capital - it's just not feasible to keep expanding out instead of up - Bray, Graystones and Celbridge are already colonies of Dublin. Our lack of infrastructure is already costing us dearly in terms of our capacity, this will only continue to cost us as brexit draws nearer.

AT need to get real about this.

AT need to be told to go and ****.