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Live export of ram lambs

  • 27-07-2017 12:31pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭


    Anyone here anything yet about export for ram lambs

    Collection points ?
    Price etc.?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,803 ✭✭✭Bleating Lamb


    Was in Manorhamilton mart yesterday and one of the tanglers was saying that he 'heard' it's going opening up in a few weeks for lighter lambs.

    He had very sketchy details!....but it would be a help if it came...what/where did you hear about it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭cattle man


    Heard there going to be collecting for EID Muslim festival.

    Ram lambs 40 kilos up to 50.

    Heard a price 2.2 a kilo something similar to this time last year.

    Was in Manorhamilton mart yesterday and one of the tanglers was saying that he 'heard' it's going opening up in a few weeks for lighter lambs.

    He had very sketchy details!....but it would be a help if it came...what/where did you hear about it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 spudeater


    Have heard they are set up but price is too steep at present


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    cattle man wrote: »
    Heard there going to be collecting for EID Muslim festival.

    Ram lambs 40 kilos up to 50.

    Heard a price 2.2 a kilo something similar to this time last year.

    Unfortunately I don't think that's true. Eid is the festival at the end of Ramadan and Ramadan was in May this year. I think it's a bit soon for next years festival too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Unfortunately I don't think that's true. Eid is the festival at the end of Ramadan and Ramadan was in May this year. I think it's a bit soon for next years festival too.

    Are there two big festivals that create demand or just one ? Remember lads ringing around this time last year looking for ram lambs ( so I thought two) ? I know the dates move each year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭J.O. Farmer


    Are there two big festivals that create demand or just one ? Remember lads ringing around this time last year looking for ram lambs ( so I thought two) ? I know the dates move each year.

    I've just googled it and apparently you're right there is eid al-adha at the end of august though that seems to move too so cattle man could be right.

    I think Ramadan keeps moving earlier in the year each year so I think it was closer round now last year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    Just as well these festivals create the demand, because was fair disappointed with the Easter demand this year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭orm0nd


    I've just googled it and apparently you're right there is eid al-adha at the end of august though that seems to move too so cattle man could be right.

    I think Ramadan keeps moving earlier in the year each year so I think it was closer round now last year.


    just 1 point the earlier that ramadan moves the demand will be a little less


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭razor8


    Was 1st of September last year that I sold lambs to shipper


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,814 ✭✭✭kk.man


    Just as well these festivals create the demand, because was fair disappointed with the Easter demand this year.

    Easter lamb is finished the factories saw to that...no one around here doing it anymore. Between using hoggets or imported UK lambs they killed the trade. One good thing about Brexit might see factories change their tune in relation to importation of lamb.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    kk.man wrote: »
    Easter lamb is finished the factories saw to that...

    some factories were worse then others in recent times. Hard to have any respect for the ones that did it most.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Farmer_3650




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭razor8




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    Will they be buying in most marts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭razor8


    Will they be buying in most marts?

    usually have collection points advertised on done deal in different parts of the country. they have there own weigher that holds 10 lambs at a time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭cattle man


    razor8 wrote: »
    usually have collection points advertised on done deal in different parts of the country. they have there own weigher that holds 10 lambs at a time

    How did you find them last year razor ?

    Were you happy with weights etc ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭razor8


    No problems, paid by electronic transfer and lambs were weighed on digital scales full as ticks in the evening time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭cattle man


    razor8 wrote: »
    No problems, paid by electronic transfer and lambs were weighed on digital scales full as ticks in the evening time

    Good to here. I'm aiming to get a lot of my ram lambs away on it over next two weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭roosky


    cattle man wrote: »
    Good to here. I'm aiming to get a lot of my ram lambs away on it over next two weeks.


    I see they wont take lambs that dont have tails, that will surely catch a lot of lads


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭razor8


    roosky wrote: »
    I see they wont take lambs that dont have tails, that will surely catch a lot of lads

    That's a preference, they'll still take them. Did last year anyway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    razor8 wrote: »
    That's a preference, they'll still take them. Did last year anyway

    Heard the quarantine period is 21 days, would they lose much weight?
    Wonder would they look to export for Ramadan or would the lambs be too soft


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭razor8


    Heard the quarantine period is 21 days, would they lose much weight?
    Wonder would they look to export for Ramadan or would the lambs be too soft

    Not sure what you mean. The lambs aren't closed up for 21 days. You just can't buy other sheep in for 21 days or even bring sheep to mart and bring home unsold


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    How soon after you hand the sheep over are they killed ? Is it a boat their put on or airplane ? You'd imagine they'd have to feed them for a day or two if long boat journey to stop em loosing weight ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭farawaygrass


    I have ram lambs that suit the specc now. I was going to go to the mart Monday, but will them buyers not be there? Also a few have very dirty tail ends as there were on after grass for 3 weeks, would that matter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    razor8 wrote: »
    Not sure what you mean. The lambs aren't closed up for 21 days. You just can't buy other sheep in for 21 days or even bring sheep to mart and bring home unsold

    Mentioned to someone before, that Turkey is good for weanling trade, pity there wasn't something similar for lambs.
    Their quote was the 21 day quarantine leaves it difficult.
    Personally I feel we need more alternatives than factory for early lambs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭roosky


    They are collecting lambs in cavan next monday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    Sold lambs to Wicklow cattle company last year out of the trailer on the scales full weight and up on the Lorry to Paris and paid into the bank,the lambs go by road down to be fed and then killed for the festival.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    What date is the festival starting and finishing this year ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭cattle man


    Going with lambs this week for export.

    How did ye that went last year get on we're they sticky on flesh cover ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭roosky


    cattle man wrote: »
    Going with lambs this week for export.

    How did ye that went last year get on we're they sticky on flesh cover ?



    It was very straight forward last year but the arabs are meant to be here this time so that might change things,

    Any ram lamb i have above 40 kg is going if they dont want a few of them so be it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭sako 85


    roosky wrote: »
    It was very straight forward last year but the arabs are meant to be here this time so that might change things,

    Any ram lamb i have above 40 kg is going if they dont want a few of them so be it

    I'm in the same boat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,332 ✭✭✭razor8


    sako 85 wrote: »
    I'm in the same boat

    The muslin guys were there last year, pulled up in BMW's


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭roosky


    razor8 wrote: »
    The muslin guys were there last year, pulled up in BMW's

    How many 42kg lambs will you get in a 5 series BMW ???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer


    razor8 wrote: »
    The muslin guys were there last year, pulled up in BMW's

    Prefer to give them to those lads then Larry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 201 ✭✭cattle man


    roosky wrote: »
    It was very straight forward last year but the arabs are meant to be here this time so that might change things,

    Any ram lamb i have above 40 kg is going if they dont want a few of them so be it

    I'm thinking the same just I see them stressing well fleshed lambs in the adds.

    I'm going Thursday don't want them to start picking and choosing lambs when I get there.

    Sent ewe lambs this morning to factory up to 5.20 now I think.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭roosky


    cattle man wrote: »
    I'm thinking the same just I see them stressing well fleshed lambs in the adds.

    I'm going Thursday don't want them to start picking and choosing lambs when I get there.

    Sent ewe lambs this morning to factory up to 5.20 now I think.

    I cant speak for them but they were fine last year, just load them up, obviously if you land with a few screws thrown in they will not be happy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    What date is the festival starting and finishing this year ?
    1-8 September I heard... think there looking for lambs 45kg+ now for export as its so close.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭Sheep breeder


    roosky wrote: »
    It was very straight forward last year but the arabs are meant to be here this time so that might change things,

    Any ram lamb i have above 40 kg is going if they dont want a few of them so be it

    The two lads that were dealing last year with WCC were from Paris and were of Arab nationality and they travelled the country sourcing the lambs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,146 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    The two lads that were dealing last year with WCC were from Paris and were of Arab nationality and they travelled the country sourcing the lambs.
    Would you ask them to come more often


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭roosky


    Met the lorry in cavan last night, they got about 650 lambs,

    Turned away about 80 lambs but to be fair they were not the spec described in the adds, as in they were hornys,

    Some 50 kg horny ram lambs with no flesh so the arab was only willing to give 2.30/kg and lads decided they wanted more so loaded up and went

    I had lambs from 40 to 47 kg they averaged 42.6 kg and came into 100 euro a head so i was happy to get shut of them.

    They are collecting next Thursday aswelll


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 763 ✭✭✭brownswiss


    Got €2.30 per Kg today with €1 per hd deduction. Brought them to a collection point in Mayo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 359 ✭✭FarmerDougal


    Will factory/mart tag be ok? Selling a few in mart tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭Lambman


    Dealers up here not taking anymore for export... is the order near filled or filled? Donegal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭roosky


    Will factory/mart tag be ok? Selling a few in mart tomorrow

    My lads needed eid tags


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,005 ✭✭✭Green farmer




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