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Will Ireland ever bring back a festival like Oxegen again?

  • 17-07-2017 12:10pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭


    Haven't gone to any festival since Oxegen in 2011 . Mainly due to there being sh1te lineups at each festival since. I don't want to spend 500 quid to see Duran Duran and The weekend. They would have been on during the day of Oxegen.

    The UK still have great lineups each year at their festival's

    Why can't Oxegen come back? Why did it go in the first place ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭ILikeBoats


    Because we aren't allowed have nice things.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭DontThankMe


    Brexit means that Glastonbury can be the only major festival in the Ireland or UK its part of the brexit negotiations.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,628 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Because we're a nation of scumbags and knacks who ruin everything because they're allowed to.

    I was at a large beer festival a few years ago in a foreidgn cunntery, Gates opened at 10am and closed at 7pm, all day drinking, sampling beers and listening to music. Not one ounce of trouble all day. Couldn't imagine that happening in Ireland.

    It's the inbreeding.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,643 ✭✭✭LeBash


    Because promoters see that people are willing to pay 500 bones for a piss poor line up with 2 or 3 half decent names and then any old crap can fill the rest of the line up.

    There was some festival here recently and none of the Irish bands were paid, that's just how much greed there is with the big promoters.

    Now I realise there is a higher expense getting bands here over here to play 1 show, but they don't even bring a full rig here during a festival but I got 7 days at Roskilde for 250 euros with top bands playing all week and camping included + hot showers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    A festival that doesn't book Interpol and The redneck manifesto isn't worth attending


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Because we're a nation of scumbags and knacks who ruin everything because they're allowed to.

    I was at a large beer festival a few years ago in a foreidgn cunntery, Gates opened at 10am and closed at 7pm, all day drinking, sampling beers and listening to music. Not one ounce of trouble all day. Couldn't imagine that happening in Ireland.

    It's the inbreeding.

    This ****e again.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,834 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Oxegen killed itself with booking huge acts over the weekend which cost them a small fortune, look at the lineups back then, some crazy bills + was progressively getting worse and worse press (remember the MCD ban on here!?)

    The likes of Forbidden Fruit and Longitude are easier to run and make $$$$$ on.

    I'd say we'll see a camping mainstream festival come back at some point though, or MCD will just slowly turn EP into one.

    Look at the 2013 lineup. It was pure rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,863 ✭✭✭seachto7


    Collie D wrote: »
    This ****e again.

    Well yeah. It's pretty relevant.

    I got rid of my EP tickets for 2 years running. I got them for free, but I'd still end up spending a few hundred euro between civilised camping, food and the likes. The lineup would want to be seriously good.

    Hope to go to Bilbao next year or some other random festival in Spain.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    I know I'm getting old.

    The posters for Festivals are starting to resemble the eye test charts in your local GP office


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    BSQUM99IUAAFd4G.jpg

    45 pounds for 3 days


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭deadybai


    Mr.S wrote:
    Ah that one doesn't count, it was the nail in the coffin after they tried to bring it back after pulling it in 2012.

    I was never so disappointed when they announced the lineup for that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭munchkin_utd


    no doubt it boils down too to insanely high costs for insurance and security,
    - which boils down to compo culture,
    - which boils down to crazy court awards
    - which boils down to inept politicians who see their job as shaking hands at funerals to build a profile for re-election rather than enact copped on laws to sort out the bleedin obvious flaws in the country
    - which boils down to the product of the above mentioned inbreeding, who vote for politicans because they met them at a funeral or GAA or Rugby match

    maybe the inbreeding is indeed the issue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    BSQUM99IUAAFd4G.jpg

    45 pounds for 3 days

    Now that's a lineup, remember watching on RTE too. Although with regard to the Roses on Sunday I believe Squire was already gone by then? Last gig?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,798 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Because we're a nation of scumbags and knacks who ruin everything because they're allowed to.

    I was at a large beer festival a few years ago in a foreidgn cunntery, Gates opened at 10am and closed at 7pm, all day drinking, sampling beers and listening to music. Not one ounce of trouble all day. Couldn't imagine that happening in Ireland.

    It's the inbreeding.


    I have been to many beer festivals in this country that haven't had an ounce of trouble either. You need to try imagining harder.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Collie D wrote: »
    Now that's a lineup, remember watching on RTE too. Although with regard to the Roses on Sunday I believe Squire was already gone by then? Last gig?

    He was still there for Feile 95 (he didn't leave until 1996) but Reni was gone, replaced by Robbie Maddix IIRC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    mzungu wrote: »
    He was still there for Feile 95 (he didn't leave until 1996) but Reni was gone, replaced by Robbie Maddix IIRC.

    That was it..thanks. Knew they were in self destruct mode at the time. Squire leaving was Glastonbury 96 now I think of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,944 ✭✭✭Sugarlumps


    BSQUM99IUAAFd4G.jpg

    45 pounds for 3 days

    Went solo for the first two days before the missus joined me on the third day. Crate of boiled Bavaria 8.6 in tow. Excellent weekend.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,310 Mod ✭✭✭✭mzungu


    Collie D wrote: »
    That was it..thanks. Knew they were in self destruct mode at the time. Squire leaving was Glastonbury 96 now I think of it.
    There was no Glastonbury in 1996, however Squire missed Glastonbury 1995 (Pulp headlined as a last minute replacement for the Roses, and that made their name and turned Jarvis into a bit of a celeb) because he broke his arm. When Squire did leave, I think it was before festival season in 1996, because he wasn't there for infamous Reading 1996* gig that finished them off (Ian Brown put the band, and everybody else, out of their misery by disbanding a short while later). :D

    * The replacements for Squire and Reni were great, but have a listen to Brown's vocals on this......tuneless doesn't even begin to describe it :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,962 ✭✭✭r93kaey5p2izun


    Oxegen 2006 was the last straw for me. Tents set on fire and all the cars broken into. I don't think I could ever camp at an Irish festival again, though I'm probably too old now anyway. I would like to see a good festival lineup again though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    Collie D wrote: »
    This ****e again.

    Its not shoite when its true. tis a pleasure to go to a concert in mainland Europe, no scobes, f'all fighting, not many people lying around puking their guts up.

    etc etc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,438 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    kupus wrote: »
    Its not shoite when its true. tis a pleasure to go to a concert in mainland Europe, no scobes, f'all fighting, not many people lying around puking their guts up.

    etc etc.

    It happens but it's a very annoying and visible minority. Not exactly a nation of scumbags and knacks who inbreed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭deadybai


    I think 06 was the start of the scummy behaviour. Times have changed somewhat though . EP seems to be marketed very cleverly as you never really hear of any incidents.

    I think there is a lot more smaller festivals now . So people who just go for drink and drugs would go to the cheaper festivals for that craic if Oxegen was brought back. Obviously just a huge generalisation but I do think that we have become a lot more civilized as country in the last ten years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    I went in 05 and from what I remember at the time it was seen as the last proper year without all the scumbags.

    06 onwards it just turned to ****e


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    BSQUM99IUAAFd4G.jpg

    45 pounds for 3 days

    Went to the Saturday of this as my first ever gig. The epic opening act 'The Kelly Family' didn't seem to make the poster??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    I would assume that acts now don't have the pulling power that was around back then, I mean orbital and the aphex twin headlined that forbidden fruit yoke this year


    The music industry fell of a cliff when it tried to hold the tide back on digital distribution


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,502 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    BSQUM99IUAAFd4G.jpg

    45 pounds for 3 days

    Sometimes a post just nails a topic beautifully, well played.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 103 ✭✭Pure tashte


    I went from 05-07, great craic when you're 16/17 but it was a simpler time. It got progressively worse with each year I went, and apparently went downhill each year again after that. I can't comprehend how anyone would want to see it back again.

    Most of the bands that would have headlined it have played their own shows in recent times (Green Day in Kilmainham, Foos at Slane, KOL in the 3), so it's not as if we're deprived of these type of gigs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Mr.S wrote: »
    Oxegen killed itself with booking huge acts over the weekend which cost them a small fortune, look at the lineups back then, some crazy bills + was progressively getting worse and worse press (remember the MCD ban on here!?)

    The likes of Forbidden Fruit and Longitude are easier to run and make $$$$$ on.

    I'd say we'll see a camping mainstream festival come back at some point though, or MCD will just slowly turn EP into one.

    Witness 2002 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witnness#2002_Festival
    130 euro for the weekend camping ticket.


    Pick 2 of the first 15 acts mentioned there and those are considered headliners now.

    Crap security and no enforcement means that the 'ferals' are allowed to run wild. I was at Oxegen in 2011 and it was a **** show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,390 ✭✭✭Cina


    I just don't see why you'd go to an irish festival anymore when you can get this (which was incredible) for half the price abroad, and not get soaked.


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