Customs

tom85

Where did custom get the power to set up a checkpoints by themselves pass one yesterday with no garda present

Atlantic Dawn

They have it for as long as I can remember. They also have the power to break in to a vehicle in order to test the fuel.

2forjoy

They don't even need to set up a checkpoint as they can stop you anywhere at random .

mikeecho

tom85 wrote: »

Where did custom get the power to set up a checkpoints by themselves pass one yesterday with no garda present

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They have it for as long as I can remember.....

you have a long memory 1876

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1876/act/36/enacted/en/print.html

NIMAN

The Customs guys would nearly have more power than the Gardai.

tom85

Didn't know that. But when custom have so much power how don't they have blue lights on there cars

dar83

I passed a customs car on Tuesday morning this week and it had blue lights on top of the car.

mikeecho

Tom, would you like to tell us what happened?

I'm getting the feeling that you have a chip on your shoulder after coming across that customs check point, but then, maybe my spidey sense is off today

biko

tom85 wrote: »

Didn't know that. But when custom have so much power how don't they have blue lights on there cars

I don't think they count as an emergency crew, but that's just a guess.

tom85

Just always thought garda people in charge of animals plus a few more where the only ones that can stop you on road. Plus the customs car there only has a few red flashing lights on them

artanevilla

Blue lights are to get you out of the way not to pull you over.

bazz26

Were they wearing their hats?

corglass

Are those my feet?

Vic_08

Was Bruce there? Did he show you his badge?

tom85

mikeecho wrote: »

Tom, would you like to tell us what happened?

I'm getting the feeling that you have a chip on your shoulder after coming across that customs check point, but then, maybe my spidey sense is off today

Just was looking if there was any loophole to get me off. And what was bazz26 saying about a Hat? As they found mgo in the tank cost me €2000 there and then or they were going to seized the jeep fu*k it looks like I have no ground To appeal It. Or do I ?

goochy

Sorry whats mgo?

mgbgt1978

Marked Gas Oil
Green Daysul in everyday language.

tom85

goochy wrote: »

Sorry whats mgo?

Marked gas oil. . Green diesel

gerrybbadd

tom85 wrote: »

Just was looking if there was any loophole to get me off. And what was bazz26 saying about a Hat? As they found mgo in the tank cost me €2000 there and then or they were going to seized the jeep fu*k it looks like I have no ground To appeal It. Or do I ?

What's there to appeal?

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

NIMAN wrote: »

The Customs guys would nearly have more power than the Gardai.

No nearly about it. One of them crashed into me before. When the Gardai arrived, they refused to identify themselves to them, and there was nothing the Guards could do about it.

mgbgt1978

You gotta love those Government Department Pissing Contests

Eric Cartman

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

You gotta love those Government Department Pissing Contests

my only question is, if you're customs and you won't identify yourself, what makes them believe your'e customs

ED E

tom85 wrote: »

Just was looking if there was any loophole to get me off. And what was bazz26 saying about a Hat? As they found mgo in the tank cost me €2000 there and then or they were going to seized the jeep fu*k it looks like I have no ground To appeal It. Or do I ?

What's the appeal? Sorry judge I'm a scrounger?

mgbgt1978

Eric Cartman wrote: »

my only question is, if you're customs and you won't identify yourself, what makes them believe your'e customs

I'd say that a Car Reg check told the Boys all they needed to know

ZeroThreat

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote: »

No nearly about it. One of them crashed into me before. When the Gardai arrived, they refused to identify themselves to them, and there was nothing the Guards could do about it.

What would happen if they seriously injured someone or mowed over some pedestrians? I doubt they could just drive away into the sunset with no consequences.

tom85

gerrybbadd wrote: »

What's there to appeal?

What about petrol station as when they say how did mgo get in to tank I said I told my polish friend last night would he go down to petrol station and fill Navara with diesel. He went down to petrol station seen a pump saying green diesel and fill it up thinking it was some new eco friendly diesel well that what I told custom anyway

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

They just didn't personally identity themselves, the guards collected enough info about which branch they were attached to etc and I was able to get my car fixed.

mgbgt1978

tom85 wrote: »

What about petrol station as when they say how did mgo get in to tank I said I told my polish friend last night would he go down to petrol station and fill Navara with diesel. He went down to petrol station seen a pump saying green diesel and fill it up thinking it was some new eco friendly diesel well that what I told custom anyway

TWO GRAND....I'd have given them the Navara and a few hundred extra to make up the difference.

Donal55

tom85 wrote: »

What about petrol station as when they say how did mgo get in to tank I said I told my polish friend last night would he go down to petrol station and fill Navara with diesel. He went down to petrol station seen a pump saying green diesel and fill it up thinking it was some new eco friendly diesel well that what I told custom anyway

Which garage? And will your Polish mate stand up in the box and swear on same?
Just asking because the Customs Officer will be in court along with a state solicitor. Get your story straight.

tom85

Donal55 wrote: »

Which garage? And will your Polish mate stand up in the box and swear on same?
Just asking because the Customs Officer will be in court along with a state solicitor. Get your story straight.

Well but the pump just say green diesel which is not a legal name for it

tom85

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

TWO GRAND....I'd have given them the Navara and a few hundred extra to make up the difference.

Well if you would give them 2013 Navara for 2000 euro the only thing I could say is good for you

mgbgt1978

Probably cheaper in the long run.;)
And I find it hard to believe they took €2,000 off you on the day. Most people get charged with the MGO offence and then get fined at a District Court.
...unless it's an NI reg Navara ???

edit; they will normally only try and negotiate an "on the spot" fine if the vehicle isn't worth seizing.

tom85

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

Probably cheaper in the long run.;)
And I find it hard to believe they took €2,000 off you on the day. Most people get charged with the MGO offence and then get fined at a District Court.

What custom man said if you pay at the road side you will avoid court prosecution and it €1000 private car €2000 for jeep

Donal55

tom85 wrote: »

Well but the pump just say green diesel which is not a legal name for it

Im not arguing with you or disputing your story but I have been in court enough times to hear Customs officers give their evidence and answer questions either by a judge or defence solicitior.

I have yet to come across a case where the judge has ruled against Revenue in cases of MGO. I'm not saying it has not happened but in 17 years of attending rural court houses I have not witnessed it.

One final bit of advice, if you're not paying the fine at least show up if / when summoned.
Good luck.

hdowney

Vic_08 wrote: »

Was Bruce there? Did he show you his badge?

HAHAHA. I love ole Brucie. Saw him in the airport last year coming home from holidays. I was like 'awwww', but I also had the usual Irish Catholic guilt when passing customs, even though I'd nothing to hide/declare!!!

tom85 wrote: »

What about petrol station as when they say how did mgo get in to tank I said I told my polish friend last night would he go down to petrol station and fill Navara with diesel. He went down to petrol station seen a pump saying green diesel and fill it up thinking it was some new eco friendly diesel well that what I told custom anyway

Not a hope in holy hell they'll believe that. IF this was the truth, once your 'friend' informed you he'd used the green diesel, you knew you couldn't have the car on the road, and should have arranged to get it taken to a garage to be siphoned. So it's all on you and the fine will stand.

mgbgt1978

tom85 wrote: »

What custom man said if you pay at the road side you will avoid court prosecution and it €1000 private car €2000 for jeep

Fair enough.
First time offence then ?

tom85

mgbgt1978 wrote: »

Fair enough.
First time offence then ?

Yes

tom85

Just thinking about it and should'nt it be " polish friend" name be on paper work and not me as he put diesel in

Donal55

tom85 wrote: »

Just thinking about it and should'nt it be " polish friend" name be on paper work and not me as he put diesel in

Registered owner of vehicle??
Are you on a wind up?

punisher5112

Op it won't be the 1st time that they heard that story.

Ah no I ran out had a drum in the back to get me home.

Just bought it like that.

Many many excuses.

tom85

Donal55 wrote: »

Registered owner of vehicle??
Are you on a wind up?

Just thinking if I can get the polish friend name on paper work. I will have no record with custom and if I get caught again it will be just €2000 which is not too bad as I
Save about 2500 a year on it .because he did say if I get caught again it will be court and €5000 fine and that lot of money

jimmycrackcorm

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy wrote:

No nearly about it. One of them crashed into me before. When the Gardai arrived, they refused to identify themselves to them, and there was nothing the Guards could do about it.

That would be against the law. Section 106 of the RTA doesn't give customs an exemption from providing their details.

punisher5112

tom85 wrote: »

Just thinking if I can get the polish friend name on paper work. I will have no record with custom and if I get caught again it will be just €2000 which is not too bad as I
Save about 2500 a year on it .because he did say if I get caught again it will be court and €5000 fine and that lot of money

How will you get name on paper work???

You paid to release the vehicle.

Hopefully you get caught again if that's how you go about it.

If you can't afford to run a 2013 get a Micra or yaris or use the bus.

Aint Eazy Being Cheezy

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

That would be against the law. Section 106 of the RTA doesn't give customs an exemption from providing their details.

And what was I supposed to have done? Tackle him to the ground, perform a citizen's arrest and instruct the cop to cuff him?

Guy:Incognito

tom85 wrote: »

Just thinking if I can get the polish friend name on paper work. I will have no record with custom and if I get caught again it will be just €2000 which is not too bad as I
Save about 2500 a year on it .because he did say if I get caught again it will be court and €5000 fine and that lot of money

Yep, you can do that no bother. What you do is, buy or invent a time machine, go back to before you were stopped, get your friend to drive it and get stopped. Hey Preston, his name is on the fine.

You could also visit the customs guy and offer him money to redo the paperwork in another name, I've heard the respond to that sort of thing...............
Whether they respond positively or negatively for your point of view is your risk to take.

mgbgt1978

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

That would be against the law. Section 106 of the RTA doesn't give customs an exemption from providing their details.

Ah c'mon Jimmy.
You know as well as the rest of us the Gardai just love it when you tell them how the law works .

tom85

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Yep, you can do that no bother. What you do is, buy or invent a time machine, go back to before you were stopped, get your friend to drive it and get stopped. Hey Preston, his name is on the fine.

But he did say how did MGO get into tank I told him the story about polish friend and the eco diesel etc custom man just started laughing at me like he didn't believe me .and then he say if you have means pay at road side it €2000 or you can go to court with your story and see what the judge think so I said I pay now but he should have ask for his name which he didn't

mgbgt1978

So you paid, it's over.....move on and worry about something else.

punisher5112

tom85 wrote: »

But he did say how did MGO get into tank I told him the story about polish friend and the eco diesel etc custom man just started laughing at me like he didn't believe me .and then he say if you have means pay at road side it €2000 or you can go to court with your story and see what the judge think so I said I pay now but he should have ask for his name which he didn't

Why would he care who the polish guy is.

Your car your responsible.

Voodoomelon

I heard once that Customs have so much power, they can take a dump in the Áras and not even bother flushing.

punisher5112

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I heard once that Customs have so much power, they can take a dump in the Áras and not even bother flushing.

Wrong....


Get it right they do it on your doorstep.