Would you support your son/daughter child becoming a prostitute?

freshpopcorn

So, if Ireland was to make the sale of sex legal. Would you like your son or daughter to do it for a living?
We often read threads with people saying Ireland should legalise it.

Would you support your son/daughter child becoming a prostitute?

Tom Mann Centuria

I'd hope they would earn enough to support themselves.



And no, it's not a career I'd choose for my children when they grow up.

dilallio

No way!



Edit: Sorry OP - I thought you said Protestant!

mikeybrennan

No

RayM

I'd be happier that they were doing it legally (and in a safe environment), rather than illegally (with all the added dangers that inevitably brings).

eviltwin

Once they were going in with their eyes open and working independently then yes. There should be no stigma to selling sexual services ( or buying it)

pangbang

But would your prostitute support your son/daughter becoming a child?

Omackeral

I'd support them but I probably wouldn't avail of their services.

WoollyRedHat

If they wanted to be a hooker and hoped to represent Ireland I'd tell them to jump at the opportunity.

Sven Hassel

No I'd be disgusted.

Childless man answer: No. Because I don't want my children, male or female, exposed to vulnerable, potentially violent situations. I'd also hate any child of mine to become a doorman or a Garda.

Father answer: NO MAN WILL EVER TOUCH MY DAUGHTER.

B.A._Baracus

Nope.

Prostitution is a seedy seedy game. Full of coke-heads, mentally messed-up people, tarts and a-holes.... let's not sugar coat things. So why would anyone support their child involved in something like that?

1874

with the kind of people that avail of those services and even with protection, the kind of stds that are becoming prevalent, just read about super gonorrehea! :eek:
Id definitely be steering them away from it, but it'd be long before they reached the point in time where they were likely to be sprining this on me as a surprise.
Thinking about it, if the catholic institutions and mentality really wanted to prevent young people from having sex going back to and before I was young, they should have being promoting sex education, a lot of what I'm reading now about STD's is damn scary, re untreatable antibitotic resistant strains.

Bhubaneswar

No, has any Jaysus said yes yet?

KungPao

Kate's Father: I'm sad because, my darling, our poverty has reached such extremes that I can no longer afford to keep us and must look to my own dear tiny darling to sustain me in my frail dotage.

Kate: But father surely...

Kate's Father: Yes, Kate. I want you to become a prostitute.

Kate: Never! Father.

Kate's Father: Do you defy me?

Kate: Indeed I do for tis better to die poor than to live in shame and ignominy.

Kate's Father: No it isn't.

Kate: I'm young and strong, clever, my nose is pretty. I shall find another way to earn a living.

Kate's Father: Oh please go on the game. It's a steady job and you'd be working from home.

Omackeral

KungPao wrote: »

Kate's Father: I'm sad because, my darling, our poverty has reached such extremes that I can no longer afford to keep us and must look to my own dear tiny darling to sustain me in my frail dotage.

Kate: But father surely...

Kate's Father: Yes, Kate. I want you to become a prostitute.

Kate: Never! Father.

Kate's Father: Do you defy me?

Kate: Indeed I do for tis better to die poor than to live in shame and ignominy.

Kate's Father: No it isn't.

Kate: I'm young and strong, clever, my nose is pretty. I shall find another way to earn a living.

Kate's Father: Oh please go on the game. It's a steady job and you'd be working from home.

Something about having breakfast.

Outlaw Pete

eviltwin wrote: »

Once they were going in with their eyes open...

Might be easier with them closed.

Pac1Man

Only if they offered a discount.

123shooter

1874 wrote: »

with the kind of people that avail of those services and even with protection, the kind of stds that are becoming prevalent, just read about super gonorrehea! :eek:
.......a lot of what I'm reading now about STD's is damn scary, re untreatable antibitotic resistant strains.

I should imagine your son or daughter is more at risk of such diseases on a Friday or Saturday night after too much drink with a local girl in the back of a car than with someone who does it for a living.

Besides those diseases have been around as long as humans have existed and until recently there was no drugs to treat them. It never stopped people having unprotected sex with anyone and it never stopped people selling or using sex to obtain money or other. Penicillin wasn't discovered until 1928 so not even 100 years yet and humans around for how long, millions of years?

If you live your life by newspaper headlines you will certainly go nuts!

LordSutch

freshpopcorn wrote: »

Would you support your son/daughter child becoming a prostitute?

NO.

freshpopcorn

freshpopcorn wrote: »

So, if Ireland was to make the sale of sex legal. Would you like your son or daughter to do it for a living?

That would depend on whether they themselves want to be doing it. I would not "like" my child to end up in a career they do not want to be in. I would like my child to end up in a career that they want to be in - and chose for themselves.

And if that is a career somewhere in the sex industry - they I would be as entirely ok with that as any other choice they make for themselves - and I would support them in the same way there as I would anywhere else.

Samaris

No, it's a rough job, it can be dangerous to the individual and there's a thick layer of social shame to it that can't help but make someone's life harder. It is a dead-end job at best and can be deadly at worst. Plus it is opening them up to all the awful aspects of life that can push someone on the game, like drugs and the seedier elements that come with that.

There will always be prostitution and prostitutes and a very small percentage of them might be doing it because they actually enjoy it as a career choice, but I wouldn't particularly encourage someone to experiment with it to see if they are one of that small percentage.

123shooter

Samaris wrote: »

No, it's a rough job, it can be dangerous to the individual and there's a thick layer of social shame to it that can't help but make someone's life harder.

Interesting

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but only if you allow others to know and really should we go around living our lives as to what OTHERS think we should? [/QUOTE]

It is a dead-end job

We all do plenty of them I am afraid.

...........at best and can be deadly at worst.

I wouldn't say it's anywhere near as dangerous as working on a building site or other hazardous occupation.

Plus it is opening them up to all the awful aspects of life that can push someone on the game, like drugs

Could say the same about doctors, nurses and vets or anyone with free access to drugs.

...........and the seedier elements that come with that.

What are these?

sbsquarepants

I have no problem with prostitution - I think it should be entirely legal, but no I wouldn't want my daughter (or son for that matter) to be one.

I see no contradiction whatsoever in that. I wouldn't like my son to be a fireman for example - I don't think firemen should be banned.

Game Face MCGee

Deleted User wrote: »

freshpopcorn wrote: »

So, if Ireland was to make the sale of sex legal. Would you like your son or daughter to do it for a living?

That would depend on whether they themselves want to be doing it. I would not "like" my child to end up in a career they do not want to be in. I would like my child to end up in a career that they want to be in - and chose for themselves.

And if that is a career somewhere in the sex industry - they I would be as entirely ok with that as any other choice they make for themselves - and I would support them in the same way there as I would anywhere else.

you're touched mate,

Game Face MCGee

Game Face MCGee wrote: »

you're touched mate,

Anything to add to that - other than random personal comments? Did you post get chopped off at the end by the system maybe? The comma suggests there was more but somehow it did not post?

Samuel T. Cogley

Unless the new legislation has been enacted prostitution is and has been legal for a long time. The contracts are probably unenforceable though.

Game Face MCGee

Deleted User wrote: »

Game Face MCGee wrote: »

you're touched mate,

Anything to add to that - other than random personal comments? Did you post get chopped off at the end by the system maybe? The comma suggests there was more but somehow it did not post?

not at all, I dont think i need to elaborate any further, someone who would actively encourage/refrain from discouraging his son or daughter to become a prostitute is touched in the head, in my opinion.

123shooter

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Unless the new legislation has been enacted prostitution is and has been legal for a long time. The contracts are probably unenforceable though.

I wonder just like many other laws if someone could explain as to why a law was introduced making it illegal to use part of your body for reward:)

Would the same apply to manual workers, footballers etc etc?

Sam Kade

freshpopcorn wrote: »

So, if Ireland was to make the sale of sex legal. Would you like your son or daughter to do it for a living?
We often read threads with people saying Ireland should legalise it.

Would you support your son/daughter child becoming a prostitute?

A child prostitute?

123shooter

Game Face MCGee wrote: »

not at all, I dont think i need to elaborate any further, someone who would actively encourage/refrain from discouraging his son or daughter to become a prostitute is touched in the head, in my opinion.

What do you see wrong with being a prostitute or other kind of sex worker/porn star.

Game Face MCGee

Game Face MCGee wrote: »

not at all, I dont think i need to elaborate any further, someone who would actively encourage/refrain from discouraging his son or daughter to become a prostitute is touched in the head, in my opinion.

Not sure what this has to do with me then as nowhere in my post did I indicate that I would "actively encourage" it. Sounds like you have a record to play - and you merely decided to play it at me. I would not "actively encourage" them to become a toilet cleaner or a soldier either. But if that is the career they find for themselves and are happy with - then I would be happy for them too.

What I do encourage - strongly - is that my children (current children and the ones I plan to have in the future) find themselves what they want - and get into the career that _they_ choose for themselves and avoid landing in a career that _they_ themselves do not want to be in. It is not my role as a parent to choose for them - or hinder them in their own choice for - any given career.

If you want to tell me what is wrong with that - rather than random personal insults that inform no one of anything - then I am all ears as they say.

fizzypish

Its probably a bit late to be "supporting" them now if they are considering the sex industry as a viable option. You already ****ed up somewhere along the way..... and sure there are defiantly young women/men who enter the industry perfectly happy and sound of mind (young lady who did the AMA seemed fine from what I read but who can tell on the interwebs) but I would hazard a guess that their number is not in the majority. I wouldn't support anyone I care about entering the industry. I'd be more inclined to lay out some other options and then let them make up their own mind.

BuyersRemorse

I'd probably have a chat with them about the evils of the 'gig economy' and zero-hours contracts, but if they found a nice pimp, who was willing to pay into a pension scheme, and at least provide basic sick pay, then who am I to stand in their way.

fizzypish

fizzypish wrote: »

Its probably a bit late to be "supporting" them now if they are considering the sex industry as a viable option. You already ****ed up somewhere along the way.....

Not necessarily. Not everyone who chooses that career path does so because they are some how damaged or desperate. Some people do it solely because they _want_ to.

Any child of mine who wants to do it will have my acceptance and support. Any child of mine who is getting into it for reasons or desperation or coercion or anything which means they are doing it against their choice and will - will get the relevant kind of support from me for that too.

It is not up to a parent to choose or veto a career for their children. It is up to a parent to ensure children have all the education - skills - and emotional support to make those choices for themselves.

Buttercake

Cant wait to hear what the cherry picker feminists have to say

123shooter

BuyersRemorse wrote: »

I'd probably have a chat with them about the evils of the 'gig economy' and zero-hours contracts, but if they found a nice pimp, who was willing to pay into a pension scheme, and at least provide basic sick pay, then who am I to stand in their way.

What no holiday pay ?:eek:

Game Face MCGee

Deleted User wrote: »

Game Face MCGee wrote: »

not at all, I dont think i need to elaborate any further, someone who would actively encourage/refrain from discouraging his son or daughter to become a prostitute is touched in the head, in my opinion.

Not sure what this has to do with me then as nowhere in my post did I indicate that I would "actively encourage" it. Sounds like you have a record to play - and you merely decided to play it at me.

What I do encourage - strongly - is that my children (current children and the ones I plan to have in the future) find themselves what they want - and get into the career that _they_ choose for themselves and avoid landing in a career that _they_ themselves do not want to be in.

If you want to tell me what is wrong with that - rather than random personal insults that inform no one of anything - then I am all ears as they say.

by your logic, would you support your child if they wanted to be a drug dealer, an assassin, human trafficker, professional begger, loan shark? if that's what they wanted to do? I doubt it.
I am in the same boat as you with my children in term of encouragement but I'd drawn the line at selling their body for money.
We are seeing the fruits of your type of parenting in America as we speak, young adults coming out of college with useless degrees in  gender studies and midget dance, complaining that they cant get a 6 figure job and blaming the system for it.

Hector Bellend

This is a weird one. I'd have no problem with anyone enjoying a full and healthy sex life, (apart from wanting to murder anyone who even looks at my daughter). However, to do it for a living might be a step too far.

Like most parents, I'd rather see my kids go to medical school rather than selling themselves.

Besides. I imagine that its an occupation in which youre probably over the hill at 30\35

seamus

Depends on what you mean by "support". Would I choose it for them, would I push them towards it? No, of course not. But then there are lots of "respectable" jobs I would hate to see a child of mine do and would actively encourage them away from; butcher, soldier, fishing, motor racing, jockey, stuntman. And so forth.

"Support" is a different thing altogether. If an adult child came home and I discovered they'd gone on the game, I wouldn't cast them out the door. If they could allay my worries about their safety and show me they've properly thought about it and they're not doing it out of desperation then I'd STFU. No matter what, they'd always have my love and support.

mad muffin

Only if I got free tricks.

Game Face MCGee

Game Face MCGee wrote: »

by your logic, would you support your child if they wanted to be a drug dealer, an assassin, human trafficker, professional begger, loan shark? if that's what they wanted to do? I doubt it.

I thought it would go without saying - but I am happy to make it explicit if you need me to - that them doing anything illegal is an entirely different question. I have no interest in supporting anyone who wishes to break the law.

So you can take my comments in how I would support the career choices of my children in that context.

I have asked and asked and asked people who have an issue with a legal and fully regulated sex industry - what the actual arguments against it really are. And I have not really received any informative replies over the years. They usually just try to blacken prostitution with crimes of another form.

Game Face MCGee wrote: »

We are seeing the fruits of your type of parenting in America as we speak, young adults coming out of college with useless degrees in gender studies and midget dance, complaining that they cant get a 6 figure job and blaming the system for it.

I am not seeing the link between anything I have written on this thread - and what you describe above. It seems to be a rather remarkable leap in long distance non-sequiturism to me. Could you make the link more explicit as to what you (think you) are talking about here?

eviltwin

There was an AMA recently with a sex worker and it made for fascinating reading. She certainly didn't appear to be someone who was messed in the head or from a troubled background. She was making a good living doing something she enjoyed with people she was happy to be intimate with. I don't see anything questionable about that.

123shooter

Hector Bellend wrote: »

Besides. I imagine that its an occupation in which youre probably over the hill at 30\35

Wasn't there one in the UK on breakfast tele last year in her 70's?

That's what happens when they raise the retirement age;)

Hector Bellend

I'd ask them how much they charge for a blowie with no condom.

Hector Bellend

123shooter wrote: »

Wasn't there one in the UK on breakfast tele last year in her 70's?

That's what happens when they raise the retirement age;)

I suppose there must be blokes that are into that kind of thing.

Its the same as the huge big fat birds who do porn

fizzypish

Deleted User wrote: »

Not necessarily. Not everyone who chooses that career path does so because they are some how damaged or desperate. Some people do it solely because they _want_ to.

I mentioned it initially but you are right. Some in the industry have their heads screwed on but I find it hard to believe that is the majority. I reference again the sex worker AMA. That lady seemed to have her **** together but would you think most of her co workers are in the same boat?
Your adult child decides to go into sex work. I'm assuming you'd sit down to look through all the options and encourage another decision rather than an immediate big hug and "I support you honey". The adult child might decide to enter the industry between 18-24. I can't speak for you but I did not make good decisions during these years. Nearly 30, only starting to make them now.

Hector Bellend

It doesnt look good on the C.V does it

Glenster

eviltwin wrote: »

There was an AMA recently with a sex worker and it made for fascinating reading. She certainly didn't appear to be someone who was messed in the head or from a troubled background. She was making a good living doing something she enjoyed with people she was happy to be intimate with. I don't see anything questionable about that.

However she spun it she was getting drilled by old randomers for money.

I bet in your job if they asked you to handwash your mugs and put them back rather than just leave them on your desk for the cleaners to tidy away you'd be onto your union rep.

Glenster

Hector Bellend wrote: »

It doesnt look good on the C.V does it

You'd just put 'Travelling' on there.

LadyMacBeth_

Even if prostitution was fully decriminalize and regulated I still wouldn't want my child to be a prostitute (not that I have any kids). Maybe if they wanted to be a high class escort who is paid very well and and chooses their own clientele but even so, the idea unsettles me. I just can't help but think of it as a last resort job that won't bring job satisfaction but rather self-loathing so I'd question their reasons for wanting to do it. Edited to say that I wouldn't reject them, I'd be there for them in terms of support, I'd just be worried for their mental and physical well-being.