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British and Irish Cup 2017-2018

  • 10-07-2017 2:24pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    The 2017/18 British & Irish Cup fixtures have been announced today, with the pool stages running from October to January.

    2017/18 BRITISH & IRISH CUP - POOL DRAW & FIXTURES:

    POOL 1: Bedford Blues, MUNSTER 'A', Nottingham, Ospreys Select

    POOL 2: Bristol, Cardiff Blues Select, Doncaster Knights, LEINSTER 'A'

    POOL 3: Dragons Select, London Scottish, Yorkshire Carnegie, Jersey Reds

    POOL 4: CONNACHT EAGLES, Rotherham Titans, Richmond, Ealing Trailfinders

    POOL 5: Cornish Pirates, Hartpury, Scarlets Select, ULSTER 'A'

    ROUND 1 - October 13-15, 2017

    Nottingham v Bedford Blues
    Ospreys Select v Munster 'A'
    Doncaster Knights v Leinster 'A'

    Cardiff Blues Select v Bristol
    London Scottish v Dragons Select
    Jersey Reds v Yorkshire Carnegie
    Rotherham Titans v Connacht Eagles
    Ealing Trailfinders v Richmond
    Hartpury v Cornish Pirates
    Ulster 'A' v Scarlets Select

    ROUND 2 - October 20-22, 2017

    Bedford Blues v Ospreys Select
    Munster 'A' v Nottingham
    Leinster 'A' v Cardiff Blues Select

    Bristol v Doncaster Knights
    Dragons Select v Jersey Reds
    Yorkshire Carnegie v London Scottish
    Connacht Eagles v Ealing Trailfinders
    Richmond v Rotherham Titans
    Cornish Pirates v Ulster 'A'
    Scarlets Select v Hartpury

    ROUND 3 - December 8-10, 2017

    Munster 'A' v Bedford Blues



    Nottingham v Ospreys Select
    Bristol v Leinster 'A'
    Doncaster Knights v Cardiff Blues Select
    Yorkshire Carnegie v Dragons Select
    London Scottish v Jersey Reds
    Richmond v Connacht Eagles
    Rotherham Titans v Ealing Trailfinders
    Scarlets Select v Cornish Pirates
    Hartpury v Ulster 'A'

    ROUND 4 - December 15-17, 2017

    Bedford Blues v Munster 'A'
    Ospreys Select v Nottingham
    Leinster 'A' v Bristol
    Cardiff Blues Select v Doncaster Knights
    Dragons Select v Yorkshire Carnegie
    Jersey Reds v London Scottish
    Connacht Eagles v Richmond
    Ealing Trailfinders v Rotherham Titans
    Cornish Pirates v Scarlets Select
    Ulster 'A' v Hartpury

    ROUND 5 - January 12-14, 2018

    Nottingham v Munster 'A'
    Ospreys Select v Bedford Blues
    Doncaster Knights v Bristol
    Cardiff Blues Select v Leinster 'A'
    London Scottish v Yorkshire Carnegie
    Jersey Reds v Dragons Select
    Rotherham Titans v Richmond
    Ealing Trailfinders v Connacht Eagles
    Hartpury v Scarlets Select
    Ulster 'A' v Cornish Pirates

    ROUND 6 - January 20, 2018

    Bedford Blues v Nottingham
    Munster 'A' v Ospreys Select
    Leinster 'A' v Doncaster Knights

    Bristol v Cardiff Blues Select
    Dragons Select v London Scottish
    Yorkshire Carnegie v Jersey Reds
    Connacht Eagles v Rotherham Titans
    Richmond v Ealing Trailfinders
    Cornish Pirates v Hartpury
    Scarlets Select v Ulster 'A'

    http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/40123.php#.WWN_69KWzIU


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  • Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭ thomond2006


    Why did Ulster A drop the 'Ravens' name?


  • Registered Users Posts: 37,978 irishbucsfan


    Why did Ulster A drop the 'Ravens' name?

    In recent seasons, the team hasn't been playing well enough to justify being named after vermin


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭ Rigor Mortis


    In recent seasons, the team hasn't been playing well enough to justify being named after vermin

    This led me onto Wikipedia to find the genus classification for Ravens, cos obviously its not vermin. I found this, which i think is particularly apt

    Obsolete collective nouns for a group of ravens (or at least the common raven) include "unkindness"[4] and "conspiracy".


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ Winters


    Why did Ulster A drop the 'Ravens' name?

    I wonder perhaps if it was dropped after the Kingspan naming deal? Ravens/Ravenhill?

    "Ulster Kingspanners" wasnt catchy enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,564 ✭✭✭✭ Buer


    I suggest that they just shorten that to the Ulster Spanners and bring Doak back in as coach of them.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,468 ✭✭✭ budhabob


    Winters wrote: »
    I wonder perhaps if it was dropped after the Kingspan naming deal? Ravens/Ravenhill?

    "Ulster Kingspanners" wasnt catchy enough.

    how did I never notice that before? :confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭ Winters


    It may also be related to the Ulster 'A' sponsorship by CD Group.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Games to start next weekend.
    More info on fixtures and kick off times dates available on competing sides websites/social media as well as British and Irish cups social media accounts. Still no website for the competition


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    This weekends fixtures, kick off times and teams
    Munster A face Ospreys Premiership Select at St Helen’s, Swansea tomorrow at 2.30pm.
    Leinster A face Doncaster in Castle Park, Doncaster tomorrow at 2.30pm
    Connacht Eagles face Rotherham in Clifton Lane tomorrow at 2pm
    Ulster A face Scarlets in Banbridge RFC tomorrow at 2.30pm

    Munster A: David Johnston – capt.; Stephen Fitzgerald, Sam Arnold, Alex McHenry, Shane Daly; JJ Hanrahan, James Hart; Brian Scott, Kevin O’Byrne, Ciaran Parker; Ronan Coffey, Sean McCarthy; Sean O’Connor, Gavin Coombes, Tom Ryan.
    Replacements: Mike Sherry, Rob O’Donovan, Evan Minten, Mikey Wilson, John Poland, Bill Johnston, Liam Coombes.

    Leinster A: Jordan Larmour, Hugo Keenan, Jimmy O’Brien, Ciarán Frawley, Ian Fitzpatrick, Conor Dean, Hugh O’Sullivan, Ed Byrne(Cpt), Bryan Byrne, Vakh Abdaladze, Mick Kearney, Josh Murphy, Peadar Timmins, Will Connors, Max Deegan
    Replacements: Richardt Strauss, Peter Dooley, Jeremy Loughman, Oisín Dowling, Nick McCarthy, Harry Byrne, Michael Silvester

    Connacht Eagles: Matthew Byrne; Niyi Adeolokun, Stacey Ili, Kieran Joyce, Colm de Buitléar; Luke Carty, Conor McKeon; Dominic Robertson-McCoy, Dave Heffernan, JP Cooney; Gavin Thornbury, Peter Claffey; Naulia Dawai, Paul Boyle, Harley Fox.
    Replacements: Pat O’Toole, Conor Kenny, Niall Murray, Cian Huxford, Stephen Kerins, Morgan Codyre, Adam Leavy.

    Ulster A: Andy Warwick, Adam McBurney, Ross Kane (Capt), Jack Regan, Peter Browne, Caleb Montgomery, Aaron Hall, Joe Dunleavy; Aaron Cairns, Johnny McPhillips, Angus Kernohan, Rory Butler, Callum Patterson, David Busby, Jack Owens.
    Replacements: Zack McCall, Michael Cromie, Matthew Dalton, Greg Jones, Jonny Stewart, Brett Herron, Michael Lowry.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep




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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Munster beat Nottingham 38-7 with 4 try bonus and are top of group 1. Munster live streamed the game on their website. Would be good if more games could be shown like that

    Leinster play Cardiff in Donnybrook tomorrow evening.
    Jordan Larmour, Michael Silvester, Conor O’Brien, Ciarán Frawley, Tommy O’Brien, Cathal Marsh, Nick McCarthy
    Peter Dooley, Bryan Byrne, Vakh Abdaladze, Mick Kearney, Ross Molony, Josh Murphy, Richard Dunne, Peadar Timmins
    Replacements: Ronan Kelleher, Ed Byrne, Jeremy Loughman, Óisín Dowling, Charlie Rock, Conor Dean, Hugh O’Sullivan

    Ulster are away to the Cornish Pirates on Sunday


    Connacht host Ealing on Sunday in the Sportsground
    Matthew Byrne; Niyi Adeolokun, Stacey Ili, Kieran Joyce, Rory Scholes; Andrew Deegan, Conor McKeon; Denis Coulson, Pat O’Toole, JP Cooney (Capt); Peter Claffey, Gavin Thornbury; Paul Boyle, Naulia Dawai, Harley Fox.

    Replacements: Callum Torpey, Conor Kenny, Niall Murray, Cian Huxford, James Mitchell, Luke Carty, Adam Leavy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Eagles getting destroyed by Ealing. Minute into second half and Ealing up 45-0.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,063 ✭✭✭✭ wp_rathead


    Eagles getting destroyed by Ealing. Minute into second half and Ealing up 45-0.

    Sounds like a shambles - and it's not a terrible Eagles 23


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭ Rigor Mortis


    29 - 10 to Leinster, tries for Frawley, Byrne, Moloney and Penalty Try


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,499 ✭✭✭✭ CIARAN_BOYLE


    Is there an A rugby inter pro season this year? I would be disappointed if there's not but I can't find reference to it on the Leinster website.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    wp_rathead wrote: »
    Sounds like a shambles - and it's not a terrible Eagles 23
    I only saw 10 minutes of the first half and saw whole second half. What i saw was very poor but supposedly the first half hour was even worse. Beaten everywhere by long distance.
    Is there an A rugby inter pro season this year? I would be disappointed if there's not but I can't find reference to it on the Leinster website.
    Never usually is any reference on the provincial websites. Games then added/announced a few weeks or sometimes with less time than that as theyre played whenever they can fit them


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Competition to end. Shame as was great to get players playing in provincial set ups and could ease step up to pro14 level. Also allowed some provinces move games around the province and Munster in particular were excellent at bringing games to Waterford, Nenagh, Clonmel, Tralee etc
    Hopefully whatever replaces it for Irish provinces will see more games played province wide and we see Leinster bring games to navan, ashbourne, enniscorthy etc


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,063 ✭✭✭✭ wp_rathead


    Hopefully whatever replaces it for Irish provinces will see more games played province wide

    A home and away Interpro Tournament Would be nice


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    wp_rathead wrote:
    A home and away Interpro Tournament Would be nice
    still would only be 6 games and the provinces play each other already in a games.
    Hopefully we may still see provinces play a games against some non Irish sides and hopefully we will still see provincial games being brought to venues around the provinces


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,499 ✭✭✭✭ CIARAN_BOYLE


    A few years ago it was rumoured on here that the English clubs may jettison Wales in the Anglo Welsh cup and replace them with the Irish provinces.

    I wonder if we could get in for that deal. After all the Welsh essentially send an A team to those matches as it stands.

    As far as I know the participation agreement for the Anglo Welsh is year by year since the competition has failed to attract a sponsor.

    I do agree that a home and away inter pro series should be a thing whether there is a British and Irish cup or not.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    A few years ago it was rumoured on here that the English clubs may jettison Wales in the Anglo Welsh cup and replace them with the Irish provinces.

    I wonder if we could get in for that deal. After all the Welsh essentially send an A team to those matches as it stands.

    As far as I know the participation agreement for the Anglo Welsh is year by year since the competition has failed to attract a sponsor.

    I do agree that a home and away inter pro series should be a thing whether there is a British and Irish cup or not.
    I dont see any reason the english clubs would add the irish provinces in place of the welsh for anglo welsh cup. Like why would they? Considering it would affect attendances, costs, its mainly second string squads.
    The provinces play varying amounts of A games season on season


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,499 ✭✭✭✭ CIARAN_BOYLE


    I dont see any reason the english clubs would add the irish provinces in place of the welsh for anglo welsh cup. Like why would they? Considering it would affect attendances, costs, its mainly second string squads.
    The provinces play varying amounts of A games season on season

    Anglo Welsh has failed to attract sponsors for a number of years. If we attract a spnsor (even the novelty miht so it) Anglo Irish would be a better option. Not saying it's likely just that if it was suggested before maybe it should be explored as a replacement to the b&i for the provinces.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Anglo Welsh has failed to attract sponsors for a number of years. If we attract a spnsor (even the novelty miht so it) Anglo Irish would be a better option. Not saying it's likely just that if it was suggested before maybe it should be explored as a replacement to the b&i for the provinces.
    What chances really are there that we would attract a sponsor ahead of the anglo welsh?
    There isnt any chance of anglo irish cup happening.
    Why would English go for it? There's no way they would


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Round 3 and 4 this and next weekend.
    Munster are second in pool 1 with 9 points behind Beford on 10. They play in Musgrave Park tonight against Bedford
    Munster A: Stephen Fitzgerald; Jack Power, David Johnston (C), Alex McHenry, Liam Coombes; Bill Johnston, James Hart; Joey Conway, Mike Sherry, TBC; Fineen Wycherley, Sean McCarthy, Sean O’Connor, Tommy O’Donnell, Gavin Coombes.

    Replacements: Duncan Casey, Bryan O’Connor, John Foley, Jack O’Sullivan, John Poland, Conor Fitzgerald, Dave McCarthy.

    Leinster are top of pool 2 with 10 points. Bristol and Doncaster both on 5.
    They play Bristol in Ashton Gate tonight.
    Leinster A: Ciarán Frawley, Jack Kelly, Gavin Mullin, Conor O’Brien, Tommy O’Brien, Cathal Marsh, Charlie Rock, Peter Dooley, Bryan Byrne (C), Vakh Abdaladze, Josh Murphy, Ian Nagle, Peadar Timmins, Will Connors, Max Deegan
    Replacements: Ronan Kelleher, Ed Byrne, Cormac Daly, Caelan Doris, Hugh O’Sullivan, Ian Fitzpatrick, Hugo Keenan

    Ulster are third in Pool 4 on 4 points and play bottom side Hartpury College the next 2 weeks
    Ulster A team to play Hartpury RFC, Saturday 9th December at Hartpury College, 2.30pm:
    Tommy O'Hagan, Adam McBurney, Tom O'Toole, Peter Browne, Matthew Dalton, Clive Ross, Aaron Hall, Greg Jones (C); Jonny Stewart, Johnny McPhillips, Rob Lyttle, Rory Butler, Callum Patterson, David Busby, Jack Owens.
    Replacements: Zack McCall, Eric O'Sullivan, John McCusker, Marcus Rea, Aaron Cairns, Dave Shanahan, Angus Kernohan.

    Connacht are bottom of Pool 4 with 1 point and play Richmond who like Connacht were hammered by Ealing but were comfortable winners over Rotherham who Connacht narrowly lost to in round 1.
    Matt Byrne, Adam Leavy, Kieran Joyce, Peter Robb, Stacey Ili, Andrew Deegan, Conor McKeon, Conan O’Donnell, Pat O’Toole, Conor Kenny, Cian Huxford, Gavin Thornbury, Naulia Dawai, Sean Masterson, Paul Boyle
    Replacements : Callum Torpey, Denis Coulson, Jakub Woitjowicz, Dylan Tierney, Caoilin Blade, Steve Crosbie, Craig Ronaldson


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,967 ✭✭✭✭ The Lost Sheep


    Leinster won 46-35
    Tries from Gavin Mullan(x2), Ian Nagle, Peadar Timmins, Bryan Byrne,
    Munster lost 25-14
    Tries Jack Power, Alex McHenry with conversions from James Williams


  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭ Locke_Lamora


    Plenty of tries, a lot of alcohol and a bigger crowd than I expected made the Leinster game a great watch. The team really impressed me considering how young some of them were, although the defence was a bit weak at times.


  • Registered Users Posts: 413 ✭✭ MDunne14


    Jeremy loughman played for Munster As last night and has signed a 3month contract with them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 789 Turnipman


    Plenty of tries, a lot of alcohol and a bigger crowd than I expected made the Leinster game a great watch. The team really impressed me considering how young some of them were, although the defence was a bit weak at times.

    I was interested to see that both Leinster half backs received yellow cards - what skulduggery were they up to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 789 Turnipman


    A remarkable performance by Ulster A this afternoon when - if the BBC Sport website can be believed - they fought back from a half time score of 12 - 7 down to lose 7 - 0 to Hartpury College.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/match/ERUP4040354

    Good to see Connacht A winning well at Richmond. Full time score 38 - 17.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭ Locke_Lamora


    Turnipman wrote: »
    Plenty of tries, a lot of alcohol and a bigger crowd than I expected made the Leinster game a great watch. The team really impressed me considering how young some of them were, although the defence was a bit weak at times.

    I was interested to see that both Leinster half backs received yellow cards - what skulduggery were they up to?
    I think it was Charlie Rock that got carded for playing on the ground. Made an excellent try saving tackle, and when the bristol player tried to pop it up, Rock slapped it down. At least I think that's what happened - I was behind the posts so it was difficult to see clearly.


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