Tom Cream

smurgen

Reading Tom Crean's unsung hero's autobiography at the moment and i'd say he was one of ireland's toughest men.what a ledgend.i hope more people educate themselves about him.

mullyboyee

Does a fine pint

Esel

mullyboyee wrote: »

Does a fine pint

Nice and Creamy.

juneg

It's covered in the history Programme in primary school now.

Jesus Wept

Cream.
lol.

degsie

Cream.....mmmmmmm....yummy...

LordSutch

Tom's Cream espadrilles.

http://media03.toms.com/static/www/images/product/product_image_1450x1015_Hero/NaturalCanvasWomensClassics-001001B07-LTBGE-H_1450x1015.jpg

DEFTLEFTHAND

There was a story that the Black and Tans didn't burn down the South Pole Inn when they discovered his medals and realised who he was.

Pity those cnuts didn't take the same approach with my family. They served proudly in WW1. The father my Great Grand Father was a doctor and he aided injured Volunteer men during this time.

They burnt down his home for this. My late Grandmother was wheeled out in her pram as the Officers ordered everybody outside of the house.

They removed every piece of furniture and placed it outside before torching the curtains and burning down our family homestead.

expatin africa

there is a site on facebook that puts up pictures and stories of him, it is a very good site, their are also collecting signatures a get a navel vessel named after him. www.facebook.com/honourtomcrean/

smurgen

smurgen wrote: »

Reading Tom Crean's unsung hero's autobiography at the moment and i'd say he was one of ireland's toughest men.what a ledgend.i hope more people educate themselves about him.

Tom Crean didn't write an autobiography.

AndyBoBandy

An Unsung Hero needs to be made into a Hollywood epic, and Michael Fassbender needs to play Crean.

Some of the greatest feats of human survival & endurance against the odds, and Crean did it multiple times.

I honestly can't believe this hasn't been made into a movie yet.

EchoIndia

I doubt anyone would make a movie that concentrated primarily on Crean. There was a TV drama with Kenneth Branagh as Shackleton. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shackleton_(TV_serial) Also, there may be a new Shackleton movie in the works. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/oct/21/tom-hardy-ernest-shackleton

Gavlor

Great for a bit of sunburn

SeantheMan

smurgen wrote: »

Reading Tom Crean's unsung hero's autobiography at the moment and i'd say he was one of ireland's toughest men.what a ledgend.i hope more people educate themselves about him.

Or educate themselves with regards to standard grammar :P

FYI, capital I for Ireland, capital at the start of a sentence and capitals for the personal I.

EchoIndia

EchoIndia wrote: »

I doubt anyone would make a movie that concentrated primarily on Crean. There was a TV drama with Kenneth Branagh as Shackleton. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shackleton_(TV_serial) Also, there may be a new Shackleton movie in the works. https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/oct/21/tom-hardy-ernest-shackleton

Yeah. He was very strong and great for rowing. The real story was Shackleton, an Anglo Irish man who deserves to be remembered far more here, the country of his birth. He led his men home despite all the odds and at a time when so many were turned into cannon fodder in the Somme, so his brand of heroism was largely ignored.

Neon_Lights

Imagine on his Antarctic voyage with Shackleton:

Oh look we jolly well got ourselves an "Ice Cream" over here

*insert toffish hob nob titters here*

ShadyAcres

Absolutely epic what those men did. They should be honoured.

mzungu

The man is a legend.

Miaireland

Op if you can go and see the play based on Tom Crean. It is really wonderful. http://www.tomcreanshow.com

Del.Monte

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

An Unsung Hero needs to be made into a Hollywood epic, and Michael Fassbender needs to play Crean.

Some of the greatest feats of human survival & endurance against the odds, and Crean did it multiple times.

I honestly can't believe this hasn't been made into a movie yet.

It has been.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXf93CEI4t0

Birneybau

SeantheMan wrote: »

smurgen wrote: »

Reading Tom Crean's unsung hero's autobiography at the moment and i'd say he was one of ireland's toughest men.what a ledgend.i hope more people educate themselves about him.

Or educate themselves with regards to standard grammar :P

FYI, capital I for Ireland, capital at the start of a sentence and capitals for the personal I.

Feel better now?

PCeeeee

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah. He was very strong and great for rowing. The real story was Shackleton, an Anglo Irish man who deserves to be remembered far more here, the country of his birth. He led his men home despite all the odds and at a time when so many were turned into cannon fodder in the Somme, so his brand of heroism was largely ignored.

Can you tell me what exactly it is that you thin k Shackleton needs to be 'remembered far more for'?

riffmongous

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah. He was very strong and great for rowing. The real story was Shackleton, an Anglo Irish man who deserves to be remembered far more here, the country of his birth. He led his men home despite all the odds and at a time when so many were turned into cannon fodder in the Somme, so his brand of heroism was largely ignored.

I remember reading about Shackleton recently and it seemed he was far more Anglo than Irish, other than being born here and spending part of his childhood here he had nothing else to do with Ireland did he? It seemed like a similar story to Wilde's

PCeeeee

riffmongous wrote: »

I remember reading about Shackleton recently and it seemed he was far more Anglo than Irish, other than being born here and spending part of his childhood here he had nothing else to do with Ireland did he? It seemed like a similar story to Wilde's

Dulwich College at 13. I don't know enough about his early years to comment but it seems to me that Ernest was something of the oft misquoted 1st Duke of Wellington's 'being born in a stable doesn’t make you a horse'.

Not Irish in any sense that we would understand now.

smurgen

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Tom Crean didn't write an autobiography.

I never said he did.but you know that already.

darkdubh

PCeeeee wrote: »

Dulwich College at 13. I don't know enough about his early years to comment but it seems to me that Ernest was something of the oft misquoted 1st Duke of Wellington's 'being born in a stable doesn’t make you a horse'.

Not Irish in any sense that we would understand now.

Probably about as Irish as Shane Ross who despite being born and raised in Ireland speaks with a posh English accent.

indioblack

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah. He was very strong and great for rowing. The real story was Shackleton, an Anglo Irish man who deserves to be remembered far more here, the country of his birth. He led his men home despite all the odds and at a time when so many were turned into cannon fodder in the Somme, so his brand of heroism was largely ignored.

I don't know if Shackleton's epic survival was ignored.
It's several decades since I had a copy of "Endurance" - the story of the failed trans - Antarctic expedition, but I believe Shackleton and his crew required permission, [probably from the Admiralty], to sail to Antarctica as the war had just started - and some of the party enlisted upon their return.
For most of Shackleton's amazing feat of survival there would have been no knowledge of what was happening to them in England - they were the only people on Antarctica and the islands they went to!
When Shackleton and his rescue party reached the whaling port on South Georgia he was astonished to be told that the war was not over and that huge numbers were being killed.
There was an earlier expedition by Shackleton to reach the South Pole.
For me, this was as instructive of the man's character as the later voyage.
Having marched 800 miles, and being nearly 60 miles from the South Pole, Shackleton made the courageous command decision to turn back - as he believed his exhausted party could not survive if they continued.
In both expeditions achievement was important - but not at the expense of people's lives.
He never lost a man directly under his command.

Del.Monte

PCeeeee wrote: »

Dulwich College at 13. I don't know enough about his early years to comment but it seems to me that Ernest was something of the oft misquoted 1st Duke of Wellington's 'being born in a stable doesn’t make you a horse'.

Not Irish in any sense that we would understand now.

Ah yes, the old Protestant/Quaker etc. aren't proper Irish.

smurgen

indioblack wrote: »

I don't know if Shackleton's epic survival was ignored.
It's several decades since I had a copy of "Endurance" - the story of the failed trans - Antarctic expedition, but I believe Shackleton and his crew required permission, [probably from the Admiralty], to sail to Antarctica as the war had just started - and some of the party enlisted upon their return.
For most of Shackleton's amazing feat of survival there would have been no knowledge of what was happening to them in England - they were the only people on Antarctica and the islands they went to!
When Shackleton and his rescue party reached the whaling port on South Georgia he was astonished to be told that the war was not over and that huge numbers were being killed.
There was an earlier expedition by Shackleton to reach the South Pole.
For me, this was as instructive of the man's character as the later voyage.
Having marched 800 miles, and being nearly 60 miles from the South Pole, Shackleton made the courageous command decision to turn back - as he believed his exhausted party could not survive if they continued.
In both expeditions achievement was important - but not at the expense of people's lives.
He never lost a man directly under his command.

I'll have to move onto a Shackleton book next.Hooked on the explorer tales after reading this book. How people can spend years trapped on icebegs and not want to give up in amazing to me. Also if the mods could fix the thread title I would appreciate it. Seems as if my typing skills are severely compromised after 10 Guinness.

PCeeeee

Del.Monte wrote: »

Ah yes, the old Protestant/Quaker etc. aren't proper Irish.

That is not what I said. I was deliberate in forming the last sentence.

fatknacker

He's hardly "unsung"
There are plays about him, an exhibition in Tralee museum and even a1960's supergroup, featuring Eric Clapton who dedicated their name to him.

indioblack

smurgen wrote: »

I'll have to move onto a Shackleton book next.Hooked on the explorer tales after reading this book. How people can spend years trapped on icebegs and not want to give up in amazing to me. Also if the mods could fix the thread title I would appreciate it. Seems as if my typing skills are severely compromised after 10 Guinness.

You may have seen the tv/film "Shackleton". If not, I'd say it's a good account of the expedition.
Come to think of it, although I've seen it I might get it on DVD if I can.
The soundtrack is excellent too.

Junkyard Tom

Read his biography. Sailing from Elephant Island to South Georgia in a rickety lifeboat is considered one of the most incredible rescue missions in human history.

The three lads, Crean Included, sliding down the far side of the mountain ridge, crevasses bedamned, on South Georgia was enthralling.

Can't imagine what the guys at the whalers station thought when they saw them emerging from the frozen interior of the island.

hinault

TC is a legendary figure for sure. His role in the adventures of Robert Falcon Scott and Ernest Shackleton are phenomenal. Both men recognised that TC was physically exceptionally tough.

I went to Annascaul when Edmund Hillary gave a talk there and he reckoned that the physical feats that TC achieved were literally off the scale.

Ernest Shackleton was an interesting character. His great grandson was our local GP for a while!

MyStubbleItches

smurgen wrote: »

I never said he did.but you know that already.

Yes you did. You just don't know the difference between autobiography and biography.

Saying 'but you know that already' just shows you up even more - trying to be smart when you're not really smart.

Del.Monte

hinault wrote: »

TC is a legendary figure for sure. His role in the adventures of Robert Falcon Scott and Ernest Shackleton are phenomenal. Both men recognised that TC was physically exceptionally tough.

I went to Annascaul when Edmund Hillary gave a talk there and he reckoned that the physical feats that TC achieved were literally off the scale.

Ernest Shackleton was an interesting character. His great grandson was our local GP for a while!

Ernest Shackleton's brother Francis was caught up in the scandal that was the theft of the Irish Crown Jewels in 1907: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Crown_Jewels - An unsolved mystery but Shackleton was exonerated and his boss and main accuser (Sir Arthur Vicars) was murdered by the IRA in 1921, and took whatever he knew to the grave. A real cold case.

MyStubbleItches

It's an incredible story, well worth a read. Decent black pudding in Anascaul too, much tastier than the beer. It's quite poor actually, imo.

Hammer89

Great if his middle name was Sudo.

B.A._Baracus

Wouldn't it be great to have a name like Tom Cream?

- [friend] "So how did your night turn out with that Gemma sort from the club tom?"
- [Tom] "well, lets just say...I creamed her"













I'll grab my coat.