Ticket Fraud/Theft!!!

Shabaz50

I stupidly posted an ad on adverts a few days ago showing the bar code on my ticket I was selling, which I later learned can be used to make a copy of my ticket. Is there anything I can do if some one has stolen the bar code?
Feeling sick at how stupid I was.

MarkR

Assuming you have taken down the picture already, I would contact the ticket issuer to see if a replacement can be generated.

ED E

Report it lost. They'll invalidate it and give you a new one.

Shabaz50

If I go into a ticketmaster office with the ticket and my account details will they print me a new one there and scrap the old one?

shocksy

Shabaz50 wrote: »

If I go into a ticketmaster office with the ticket and my account details will they print me a new one there and scrap the old one?

If you bought it online, a ticketmaster agent won't be able to help you.

You will need to contact ticketmaster online and arrange for the ticket to be cancelled.

Shabaz50

shocksy wrote: »

If you bought it online, a ticketmaster agent won't be able to help you.

You will need to contact ticketmaster online and arrange for the ticket to be cancelled.

It's a general admission ticket and they say they don't replace them if there lost. But my ticket isn't lost so I'm hoping they will replace it. Im ringing ASAP tomorrow.

Wrongway1985

Silly thing to do alright but there's plenty potential that ticket was not copied at all.

Shabaz50

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Silly thing to do alright but there's plenty potential that ticket was not copied at all.

I hope so, but more than likely I'll have to sell this ticket and I don't want to risk selling some poor lad a dodgy ticket. If it was myself going I'd chance it.
Thanks for telling me that, does it happen often? I read a few bits online and I was convinced it was stolen

Shabaz50

sugarman wrote: »

Honestly, you're worrying over nothing. Unless it was quite a high-res close up of it.. and even then, the vast majority of people wouldn't posses the skills to copy it.

Really? Thanks a million . No it was a poor enough picture to be honest

rubadub

Shabaz50 wrote: »

It's a general admission ticket and they say they don't replace them if there lost.

If you ordered tickets online and they get lost in the post they either send you new ones or you have to collect replacements at the box office on the day with ID. Doesn't matter if they are general admission or not.

However if you say that YOU lost them it might a different story.

ScouseMouse

I have heard this a few times but has anyone actually seen it happen?

You're worrying over nothing- is the gig you're selling even sold out?

jimmycrackcorm

Next time make sure to Photoshop the barcode with one for a mars bar

Tinkerbell4484

Just got stung with tickets am gutted

refusetolose

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

Just got stung with tickets am gutted

what happened?

ScouseMouse

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

Just got stung with tickets am gutted

How exactly

Tinkerbell4484

Bought hard copy ones on a buy and sell site,met the person,paid for them went to concert tickets scanned as being refunds. The person reported them as lost and was sent out new copies

refusetolose

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

Bought hard copy ones on a buy and sell site,met the person,paid for them went to concert tickets scanned as being refunds. The person reported them as lost and was sent out new copies

report the person on the site you bought them

ScouseMouse

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

Bought hard copy ones on a buy and sell site,met the person,paid for them went to concert tickets scanned as being refunds. The person reported them as lost and was sent out new copies

What site? If you complain to the guards, they can make a section 8 request and get the details of the seller. If they registered using their genuine details, they can be found. What site is it?

Tinkerbell4484

Done deal

Copper_pipe

Have you phone number?

prinzeugen

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

Bought hard copy ones on a buy and sell site,met the person,paid for them went to concert tickets scanned as being refunds. The person reported them as lost and was sent out new copies

Its very common and see it on a very regular basis in the Aviva. Get onto the cops.

Its fraud and traceable.

Never buy tickets from anywhere other than official outlets.

ScouseMouse

Or buy them on adverts.ie where you can view a sellers previous dealings and feedback to make a balanced decision.

greenspurs

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

Just got stung with tickets am gutted

:eek:
For... ?
From where ... ?

Tinkerbell4484

For Coldplay hardcopy tickets on donedeal

Zardoz

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

For Coldplay hardcopy tickets on donedeal

You should follow it up ,you should have the buyers name and order ID on the tickets if bought off Ticketmaster.
If bought in a shop it could be more difficult .

Tinkerbell4484

Yeah they were bought online have the name on the tickets and have reported it

innuendo141

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

Yeah they were bought online have the name on the tickets and have reported it

Let us know how you get on. Its deplorable that someone would do that. I hope you cause them a lot of hassle

mr_edge_to_you

Probably the same a$$ho/€ who threw the bottle at Jonny Buckland.

prinzeugen

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

Yeah they were bought online have the name on the tickets and have reported it

From my experience ticketmaster will block the card used to buy the tickets not the name.

You need to make a official complaint to the Garda. It is fraud.

I won't go into detail but we had someone take the piss on a regular basis.

It was 5-6 times before anyone acted. We discovered the original ticket holder was in the ground so we pulled the party from the stands so the Garda could have a word with them.

bigpink

User on adverts selling free and comp tickets on a very regular basis great feedback tho.Making a nice few quid from free tickets

Eggonyerface

I sold tickets I won in a competition on adverts before... Now I sold them below face value because I wanted a quick sale but I didn't feel bad about it

finbarrk

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

Yeah they were bought online have the name on the tickets and have reported it

Any feedback from Done Deal? Or Garda

Tinkerbell4484

None as yet

finbarrk

Done Deal are useless in these situations. They will want to wash their hands of it. Keep on to them though. Best of luck.

ScouseMouse

Donedeal cannot legally say anything due to the poxy data protection act. As advised previously, the gardai have to make a section 8 data request. Once this happens, all info held will be handed over. Otherwise, donedeal, or any other data holding organization, can, and will be prosecuted.

ScouseMouse

finbarrk wrote: »

Done Deal are useless in these situations. They will want to wash their hands of it. Keep on to them though. Best of luck.

Absolute rubbish.

okidoki987

User on adverts selling free and comp tickets on a very regular basis great feedback tho.Making a nice few quid from free tickets

I've bought complementary tickets off people and never had a problem doing it.
At least I'm getting tickets (mostly under face value) that are legit.
Fair enough they got them for nothing but nothing wrong in selling them on, just a pity I can't get any free ones.

ScouseMouse

okidoki987 wrote: »

I've bought complementary tickets off people and never had a problem doing it.
At least I'm getting tickets (mostly under face value) that are legit.
Fair enough they got them for nothing but nothing wrong in selling them on, just a pity I can't get any free ones.

I bought complimentary tickets from a guy and asked him how he got them. He laughed. He has a couple of phone with speed dial and when the ticket giveaway happens on the radio, he is right on it.
Jammy fecker!

Tinkerbell4484

Can I actually ask a question that might help me a bit. Say you bought hardcopy tickets online by card. The date of sale is 10/10 The concert sold out in minutes so you know the date on the tickets isn't that date.The date on the tickets is 20/10 at 17:00.This is the date they are printed. All tickets were dispatched in and around last week October. And you got an email confirming this I guess? Is it not odd to wait until may or June to phone and claim tickets never arrived?

Zardoz

Tinkerbell4484 wrote: »

All tickets were dispatched in and around last week October. And you got an email confirming this I guess? Is it not odd to wait until may or June to phone and claim tickets never arrived?

Ticketmaster do not send emails notifying of ticket dispatch ,the only way of knowing is to check the dispatch status in your account.

Tinkerbell4484

But ticketmaster would have proof of that so?

aka accounts 2010

Out of interest - did you meet many others on Saturday night that had been caught with cancelled/fake tickets?

okidoki987

All ticketmaster do is send out the tickets, they would no idea if the purchaser gets them or not.

I always, when buying tickets off someone with no feedback etc, take a picture
of the car they are driving or a picture of the seller if they aren't driving.
Mightn't work all the time but at least there is some comeback if it goes pear shaped.
Also worth taking note of the address of the seller as well, some may not give this out but handy if buying printouts.

Tinkerbell4484

I have the car make/model and beginning of number plate,we bought it off them in a large shopping area with cctv which is being requested as we have exact dates and times.
I know ticketmaster cannot say exactly if the tickets arrived or not but to leave a gap of 8 months from when they were dispatched to when you phone to say they didn't arrive is a bit extreme
There was several others who had fake/duplicate copies of tickets but we were only ones with hard copy

okidoki987

Not 100% sure the SC would give you the car details unless the guards ask for them?
T/M never say when tickets are going to be sent out, just if you don't receive them 2 weeks beforehand to let them know.
Every concert nowadays seem to have people who end up with fake/reprinted etc tickets and can't get in.

bodhrandude

Ticket Fraud/Theft is a great group, I recommend you get their first two albums, they'll blow you away. :);)

rubadub

Ticketmaster could easily offer an online check for tickets, christ knows people pay enough service fees and get pretty much nothing in return, not even a bloody contact email.

There are barcodes on the tickets, or other reference numbers, someone can ring and claim it never arrived in the post and they get new ones sent out, with new codes.

You should be able to enter the number in TM's site and see if it is cancelled or not, regardless of who you are, no reason to keep it secret. This will not prevent the scammer selling and cancelling last minute though, they can do this as you would be issued new tickets that you collect at the box office -as there is no time to post them out. There could be a limit on reporting "lost" tickets, say 1 month so you know if you buy after that it cannot be cancelled, or maybe someway for the seller to register it as recieved and cannot be cancelled, so you could check on a phone at the time of buying it.

But if you did buy tickets you could check that morning on the site -by then the scammer should have reported them lost. If sold on seatwave TM could know something is up and not send out replacements for tickets they know were sold (dunno if they do this already). If bought elsewhere at least you know not to bother going. It would be devastating for someone to have travelled from say Kerry to Dublin with kids all excited -only to find out they were scammed when you have wasted all that time & effort getting there too.

People legitimately stuck with tickets are also being screwed over as people are more reluctant to buy due to fear of scams. People also need to stop this practice of buying tickets on behalf of others, or on the expectation they will be taken off them. There is a common thing of "jaysus I actually got in, and can buy up to 4/8, sure everywhere online is saying its sold out and I got in, I may as well buy the max amount and will easily get rid of them, mates will be so thankful", and then more gigs are announced, and/or TM go back on the bogus "sold out" claim and start selling more.

It would be an interesting option if people could cancel their own tickets online, even if they got nothing back from the TM scum. If you were certain you were not going, and could find no way to get rid of them you could cancel your own ticket and so make it available for resale to (hopefully) a genuine fan. It would sicken me to see TM getting more profit, but the band should too, and a punter does get in.

Former Former

As soon as Ticketmaster start getting involved, then they become responsible. Why on earth would they do any of the above? They should help people break the T&C of the tickets?

Say what you want about Seatwave but it's the safest way of buying "secondary" tickets.

ScouseMouse

But what does seatwave cost and dont they allow ticket touting?

Adverts normal offering is free and the ticket mod works hard to remove touts as they appear. Add in the ability to check previous dealings and feedback, adverts offers quite a good option. The mod is a right bollix when it comes to touts.

okidoki987

But what does seatwave cost and dont they allow ticket touting?

Seatwave is around 12% of the cost of the ticket to both sellers and buyers.
The point has been made that they are one of the safest ways of buying tickets on the secondary market but that comes at a cost.
Read they only refunded people who didn't get in to Coldplay with tickets bought on Seatwave which isn't good.

Adverts normal offering is free and the ticket mod works hard to remove touts as they appear. Add in the ability to check previous dealings and feedback, adverts offers quite a good option. The mod is a right bollix when it comes to touts.

One of better sites all right but no comeback if a scam, feedback does count all right but like any site check out your seller first.