Fanning says RTE staff have easiest job the world!

Expunge

Page seven of today's Irish Daily Mail (July 6th)

RTE Veteran says he and his colleagues have the 'easiest job in the world'.
He is 'sick and tired' of hearing staff there complain about their work schedules.

Mr. Fanning, 61 says 'I'm not working down a coalmine!'

'I am sick and tired of everybody who works in RTE saying "Oh I need some time off." No you don't, you've the easiest job in the world and a little canteen beside you where you can get a coffee. Get real' he added.

Considering he's filling in for Tubbs for the summer, I'd say things could be frosty each time he looks for help outside the studio window.

bobbyss

Expunge wrote: »

Page seven of today's Irish Daily Mail (July 6th)

RTE Veteran says he and his colleagues have the 'easiest job in the world'.
He is 'sick and tired' of hearing staff there complain about their work schedules.

Mr. Fanning, 61 says 'I'm not working down a coalmine!'

'I am sick and tired of everybody who works in RTE saying "Oh I need some time off." No you don't, you've the easiest job in the world and a little canteen beside you where you can get a coffee. Get real' he added.

Considering he's filling in for Tubbs for the summer, I'd say things could be frosty each time he looks for help outside the studio window.

I don't like Fanning and never have. I rarely listen to him. I can't understand what he is talking about. He clearly skipped the 'do not speak too quickly or unclearly' module in his training. He would never make it across the water because of this.

Right2Write

bobbyss wrote: »

I don't like Fanning and never have. I rarely listen to him. I can't understand what he is talking about. He clearly skipped the 'do not speak too quickly or unclearly' module in his training. He would never make it across the water because of this.

At least you can listen to Dave and hear reasonably cogent thought. Tubridy by contrast is just tiresome, what RTE see in him as a presenter is completely lost on this listener.

wnolan1992

Depends what staff he's talking about and what general conditions are like for them tbh.

A job is a job. Saying "Well, I don't work in a coalmine!" is a reductive argument. Sure, a radio producer may not be digging ditches with their bare hands, but they still might be pulling long hours of stressful work.

Maybe directed at the likes of Ruth Scott who was complaining in the papers a while back that she was "expected to travel to OBs" at the weekend. Maybe directed at the likes of Duffy and D'Arcy who have upwards of two months off a year, who knows.


Seems like a stupid thing to say, but considering it's in that piece of trash paper, I wouldn't be surprised if they just made it up to be honest.

quintana76

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Depends what staff he's talking about and what general conditions are like for them tbh.

A job is a job. Saying "Well, I don't work in a coalmine!" is a reductive argument. Sure, a radio producer may not be digging ditches with their bare hands, but they still might be pulling long hours of stressful work.

Maybe directed at the likes of Ruth Scott who was complaining in the papers a while back that she was "expected to travel to OBs" at the weekend. Maybe directed at the likes of Duffy and D'Arcy who have upwards of two months off a year, who knows.


Seems like a stupid thing to say, but considering it's in that piece of trash paper, I wouldn't be surprised if they just made it up to be honest.

So you are saying they made up a statement from an RTE presenter, quoted him as such in the article.
Then published it along with his photograph.
You obviously are not very familiar with the libel laws.

zoobizoo

Jerry Seinfeld made a similar comment in his documentary 'Comedian'.

He used to complain and moan when he had to sit and write material.. but he looked outside his office window and saw guys on a building site toiling away, in the heat or cold with no choice but to get on with it... and that made him realise how easy his job was - he was sitting in a nice office, typing away writing jokes.

Fanning is doing a job he loves, and most DJs would... he presents a show like most RTE DJs for an hour or two a day and gets paid very well for it.. with that in mind, he and they have it pretty easy.

Allinall

It's the access to coffee that's the thing.

Gives an insight into how the elite are treated.

Harry Angstrom

It would be interesting to know the terms of Joe Duffy's contract although presumably it's top secret, just in case the BBC or CNN decide to poach him.
Considering he's been missing for 33 out of 129 shows so far this year, is Joe given a set number of days off as per terms of contract? If this is the case, and Joe is missing for more than the set number of agreed days off, is he required to pay his stand-in rather than RTE not only having to pay Joe's over-inflated fees but also his stand-in's fee?
Obviously these questions wouldn't be answered by RTE and it would probably be pointless trying to ring up Liveline to complain about it.

wnolan1992

quintana76 wrote: »

So you are saying they made up a statement from an RTE presenter, quoted him as such in the article.
Then published it along with his photograph.
You obviously are not very familiar with the libel laws.

My only point was The Daily Mail is a piece of trash tbh.

zoobizoo wrote: »

Jerry Seinfeld made a similar comment in his documentary 'Comedian'.

He used to complain and moan when he had to sit and write material.. but he looked outside his office window and saw guys on a building site toiling away, in the heat or cold with no choice but to get on with it... and that made him realise how easy his job was - he was sitting in a nice office, typing away writing jokes.

Fanning is doing a job he loves, and most DJs would... he presents a show like most RTE DJs for an hour or two a day and gets paid very well for it.. with that in mind, he and they have it pretty easy.

Aren't a lot of the DJ's contractors though? By "RTE Staff", to me that sounds more like a pop at the behind the scenes people.

And you could just as easy argue the lad on the building site had it easy. Show up at a certain time. Do your job. Head home. Comedian could spend all day staring at a blank page, get nothing done. Or write material that ruins their career in an instant and end up with nothing.

Just because you love what you do doesn't mean you can't occasionally think "Feck it, I'd love a week off right now."

zoobizoo

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Aren't a lot of the DJ's contractors though? By "RTE Staff", to me that sounds more like a pop at the behind the scenes people.

And you could just as easy argue the lad on the building site had it easy. Show up at a certain time. Do your job. Head home. Comedian could spend all day staring at a blank page, get nothing done. Or write material that ruins their career in an instant and end up with nothing.

"

In Fanning's case, he said that he and his colleagues had the easiest job in the world.... (According to the quote). Seriously doubt he'd criticise staffers.

Seinfeld was coming from the "I'm a multi-millionaire and I'm complaining about having to sit at a desk" POV.

RayM

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Aren't a lot of the DJ's contractors though? By "RTE Staff", to me that sounds more like a pop at the behind the scenes people.

I think Dave Fanning is staff, which would explain why he's always stood in for contractors (Tubridy, Gerry Ryan, etc) in the summer.

wnolan1992

zoobizoo wrote: »

In Fanning's case, he said that he and his colleagues had the easiest job in the world.... (According to the quote). Seriously doubt he'd criticise staffers.

Seinfeld was coming from the "I'm a multi-millionaire and I'm complaining about having to sit at a desk" POV.

I get the theory behind what they're saying, I just disagree with it.

If being a DJ was "easy", everyone would do it. But they don't, because it's not. Anyone can sit in behind a microphone and spout nonsense for an hour, but not anyone can spout nonsense that people actually want to listen to.

It's a job. Like anything else. People are going to have days where it feels sh*t.

Harry Angstrom

wnolan1992 wrote: »

Aren't a lot of the DJ's contractors though? By "RTE Staff", to me that sounds more like a pop at the behind the scenes people.

I doubt Bridie from Ballyfermot either knows or cares about the difference between an RTE staffer and a contractor. They're all paid out of the same licence fee pie.

Harry Angstrom

wnolan1992 wrote: »

If being a DJ was "easy", everyone would do it. But they don't, because it's not. Anyone can sit in behind a microphone and spout nonsense for an hour

That's exactly what Ray D'Arcy does for 90 minutes a day (when he isn't off), and he gets half a million a year for it.

PeterTheNinth

I think the comments are more to do with the fact that Fanning has been sitting in for Tubridy for his ONE hour every day, and he sees that the guy is getting huge money for pretty much f**k all. Making fanciful allusions and witty references to Marylin Monroe and Willy Wonka.... absolute self indulgent, pretentious wankery nonsense. Gossiping about movie stars, when he gives out yards if there is any mention of him in the papers. How his nonsense is indulged by RTE is beyond me.

Get somebody else in for that one hour, and get a decent host for the late late show ffs... Just because RTE bestowed the job on his doesn't mean that he has it for life. I mean, even some of his relations in the Royal family have been known to abdicate once in a while.

draiochtanois

This post has been deleted.

bobbyss

What do they do after the show?

Take Duffy for example. He is on air for 1.5 hours a day. Not a huge amount of time. Show finishes at 3. What time would he turn up for work at and go home? I understand there would be research and so on to do.

How about 'DJs'? Fanning for example. He presents a music programme? How long each day? How long each day does he work for? How long does he prepare for it? How much does he get paid? Over E70.000? How much would a nurse get paid?

I rememeber watching a programme on RTE a while back and in a candid (maybe unguarded) moment Gerry Ryan said all he wanted for Christmas was a new contract. I felt at the time that here was someone who knew he was on to a good thing. I also felt that he was just a chancer like many others in RTE eg Darcy and Whelan.

colinod0806

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

That's exactly what Ray D'Arcy does for 90 minutes a day (when he isn't off), and he gets half a million a year for it.

Love the way you cut off the "that people want to listen to" bit.

Harry Angstrom

colinod0806 wrote: »

Love the way you cut off the "that people want to listen to" bit.

Plenty of people want to watch Mrs Brown's Boys. Still doesn't mean it's not a steaming load of sh!t.

hullaballoo

bobbyss wrote: »

Take Duffy for example. He is on air for 2.5 hours a day.

1.25 hours a day, caller.

colinod0806

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Plenty of people want to watch Mrs Brown's Boys. it's not a steaming load of sh!t.

Ok.

Harry Angstrom

bobbyss wrote: »

What do they do after the show?

Take Duffy for example. He is on air for 2.5 hours a day. Not a huge amount of time. Show finishes at 3. What time would he turn up for work at and go home? I understand there would be research and so on to do.

How about 'DJs'? Fanning for example. He presents a music programme? How long each day? How long each day does he work for? How long does he prepare for it? How much does he get paid? Over E70.000? How much would a nurse get paid?

I rememeber watching a programme on RTE a while back and in a candid (maybe unguarded) moment Gerry Ryan said all he wanted for Christmas was a new contract. I felt at the time that here was someone who knew he was on to a good thing. I also felt that he was just a chancer like many others in RTE eg Darcy and Whelan.

Joe presents Liveline for 75 minutes per day, nowhere near 2.5 hours. He was caught out a couple of months ago when a caller pulled him up on his so-called "research". I reckon he does about the same amount of research as Marian Finucane does for her weekend programme. They're a bunch of overpaid spoofers.

Harry Angstrom

colinod0806 wrote: »

Ok.

Edit my post why don't you.

OiOiOi

People generally don't know just how much work goes in to putting together even 20 minutes of a radio or TV show.

Hint: lots

colinod0806

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Edit my post why don't you.

Oh sorry, is it only you that's allowed to do that? I didn't realise.

Harry Angstrom

colinod0806 wrote: »

Oh sorry, is it only you that's allowed to do that? I didn't realise.

Did I edit one of your previous posts? I didn't realise :rolleyes:

colinod0806

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

Did I edit one of your previous posts? I didn't realise :rolleyes:

Good man.

Harry Angstrom

colinod0806 wrote: »

Good man.

Now, point out your post that I edited and I'll gladly re-edit it back to your original post. You may be some time.

wnolan1992

Mod: Guys, FFS. How many times, take your personal pissing contests to PM. Drop it the both of you, and get back on topic.

wnolan1992

OiOiOi wrote: »

People generally don't know just how much work goes in to putting together even 20 minutes of a radio or TV show.

Hint: lots

I think what a lot of people may be questioning is how much the presenters such as Joe Duffy and Ray D'Arcy contribute to this work.

I don't know as I don't work there.

Either way, I think Fanning's comments were idiotic. You don't slag off your colleagues in public. If I were Dan Healy, I'd have a post-it on the calendar for the day Fanning's contract ends after today to be honest.

bobbyss

OiOiOi wrote:

People generally don't know just how much work goes in to putting together even 20 minutes of a radio or TV show.

So how much time would yer man who does Rising Time put in? If the programme finishes at 7 am, what would he be doing regarding the next day's programme? How much work goes into it?

ford fiesta

OiOiOi wrote: »

People generally don't know just how much work goes in to putting together even 20 minutes of a radio or TV show.

Hint: lots

some current affairs and light entertainment presenters on rte have a research production teams of 4 or 5.

so there isn't much 'work' for these presenters to do, except to read the research already done and present the shows.

does marian f go into the radio centre during the week or is just her team working during the week and she turns up say on a friday afternoon to be briefed for saturday and sunday?

some of the music show presenters even have producers!!!

foxtrot101

RayM wrote: »

I think Dave Fanning is staff, which would explain why he's always stood in for contractors (Tubridy, Gerry Ryan, etc) in the summer.

I think that's more to do with them all having/had the same agent.

PeterTheNinth

OiOiOi wrote: »

People generally don't know just how much work goes in to putting together even 20 minutes of a radio or TV show. Hint: lots

I wouldn't underestimate how difficult it is to get guests to appear on the show, or to get callers who will appear on Liveline. But I don't think Marion Finucane does a tap outside of her four hours, and it shows in her show. Tubridy just reads the newpapers and tries in vein to relate to the normal people. Duffy is fed the callers by his researchers and forces his own opinions down their throats for 75 minutes.

D'Arcy certainly does work on an intro in advance, a blank sheet of paper with "Good Afternoon" written at the bottom of it. No doubt Ray tried to download a template off the internet and managed to download it upside down. His contributions sound more like a secondary school "I went on my holidays" essay.

ford fiesta

No Fanning is a contractor now, was possibly permanent staff in the past.

mrsdewinter

PeterTheNinth wrote: »

D'Arcy certainly does work on an intro in advance, a blank sheet of paper with "Good Afternoon" written at the bottom of it. No doubt Ray tried to download a template off the internet and managed to download it upside down.

This made me laugh. But you're slightly wrong. His intro is always, 'Good afternoooon on this ... Monday (/whatever) afternoon...'

chicorytip

Harry Angstrom wrote:

Joe presents Liveline for 75 minutes per day, nowhere near 2.5 hours. He was caught out a couple of months ago when a caller pulled him up on his so-called "research". I reckon he does about the same amount of research as Marian Finucane does for her weekend programme. They're a bunch of overpaid spoofers.

Finucane at least posesses the one asset lacking in so many of those who present similar type programmes on Irish radio stations. She is intelligent - an attribute which enables her to sound interested in and informed about those she is interviewing and the subjects under discussion.

foxtrot101

chicorytip wrote: »

Finucane at least posesses the one asset lacking in so many of those who present similar type programmes on Irish radio stations. She is intelligent - an attribute which enables her to sound interested in and informed about those she is interviewing and the subjects under discussion.

I don't get this with her at all. She comes across as someone who lost any real interest in the world and everything in it a long time ago. Displays no empathy with any guest she's interviewing or any event she's covering. Why so many people tune into her every weekend is a mystery to me.

PeterTheNinth

mrsdewinter wrote: »

This made me laugh. But you're slightly wrong. His intro is always, 'Good afternoooon on this ... Monday (/whatever) afternoon...'

No no.. you're obviously not as a big a fan of Ray D'Arcy fan as I am.... When he's finished his opening monologue (about gambling or the church or sugar), just before he introduces the song, he says "Good afternoon". I think he read that from the "Things that professional DJs do" book. And then of course, his misses the button for the song and he hits the button to for the sig tune for The Marion Finucane Show