Power boxes

discodaveirl

Uncle of mine is looking to buy a power box. Anyone have any experience of different makes. He was looking at a fleming but after having to put a new frame on a fleming handler i bought damaged at an auction, i think he should pass..

So nuggent, cashels, moyfab or whoelse?

mayota

discodaveirl wrote: »

Uncle of mine is looking to buy a power box. Anyone have any experience of different makes. He was looking at a fleming but after having to put a new frame on a fleming handler i bought damaged at an auction, i think he should pass..

So nuggent, cashels, moyfab or whoelse?

Cashels make a great box.

Farmer_3650

Have to agree with mayota. Cashels make very good machinery in general. We have a Cashels power box for the last 2 or 3 years and I can't say a bad thing about it.

riemann

Have a Fleming here over 10 years. Taken a fair bit of abuse and not a mark on her

Homer jay

Hi, anyone know anything about these boxes ? Looking for a 6' 6" box, seems ĺike a good price if the quality was right. Is it just me or is it near impossible to get a 6' 6" power box new.

www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-power-boxes/14607054

Bass Reeves

Powerboxes are a fairly simple piece of machinery. I would not pay a huge premium to any manufacturer of them I have a Malone 8' that I bought second hand 5 years ago for 450 euro. OP as you said you bought it damaged at auction maybe frame was strained without you knowing. I know that Flemming bale handlers are of a lighter make than others That can be an advantage as balehandlers are out infront of tractors and ever kg counts and is putting pressure on a tractor.

There would be little demand for 6ft6 power boxes as geneerall you want them wider than the back wheels of a tractor and 7' would be the minimumwith of ecen smaller tractors like a MF 135

lakill Farm

fleming 6ft powerbox here about 6 years. but in fairness it hasn't done a weeks work yet

kk.man

I've a Malone 5ft powerbox bought it new 15 years ago. Did some great work and still 100%. Rarely use it now but wouldn't part with it in case I need it. Its worth bearing in mind a 5ft foot is adequate for a 90/100 house power tractor.

croot

+1 for the Cashels one. I've had mine for 5 years and its taken dogs abuse.

Bass Reeves

kk.man wrote: »

I've a Malone 5ft powerbox bought it new 15 years ago. Did some great work and still 100%. Rarely use it now but wouldn't part with it in case I need it. Its worth bearing in mind a 5ft foot is adequate for a 90/100 house power tractor.

only issue is it is narrower than the back wheels of the tractor. If it is wider you just need to make sure you do not overload. If you are cleaning a shed when it is wider you can reverse in and your wheels are not rising higher than what you are loading.

discodaveirl

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Powerboxes are a fairly simple piece of machinery. I would not pay a huge premium to any manufacturer of them I have a Malone 8' that I bought second hand 5 years ago for 450 euro. OP as you said you bought it damaged at auction maybe frame was strained without you knowing. I know that Flemming bale handlers are of a lighter make than others That can be an advantage as balehandlers are out infront of tractors and ever kg counts and is putting pressure on a tractor.

There would be little demand for 6ft6 power boxes as geneerall you want them wider than the back wheels of a tractor and 7' would be the minimumwith of ecen smaller tractors like a MF 135

I seen the damage alright, at 40 euro you couldnt go wrong have a nice bale handler made out of a few of cuts and about 30 euro for new steel will linkage pin holes punched in.

kay 9

Nugent gets my vote, cashels looks a good box too.

westland81

Not hard to make up at all - i made my own and a few for neighbours last year. I have drawings etc if u need i can message them to you.

9935452

discodaveirl wrote: »

Uncle of mine is looking to buy a power box. Anyone have any experience of different makes. He was looking at a fleming but after having to put a new frame on a fleming handler i bought damaged at an auction, i think he should pass..

So nuggent, cashels, moyfab or whoelse?

What sort of power or tractor will it be going on. If it was only going on a small tractor the likes of a fleming will be grand . But be putting it on a 150hp tractor and you might want a stronger one.
I bought a 7ft nugent a few years ago for this reason,
7ft nugent was 1200, 7ft fleming was 800. We put them side by side and there was no comparison , nugent was made of heavier steel , was better braced everywhere, better paintwork.
Regarding size the dealer was fairly adamint that unless i had a big tractor not to get a big powerbox, it wouldnt be able for it , ie pushing it to fill it and the weight

Homer jay wrote: »

Hi, anyone know anything about these boxes ? Looking for a 6' 6" box, seems ĺike a good price if the quality was right. Is it just me or is it near impossible to get a 6' 6" power box new.

www.donedeal.ie/tractors-for-sale/new-power-boxes/14607054

Nugent will do one for you if you want . Just talk to a dealer . They might have to make it up.

discodaveirl

@993542 it would be going on a 390, last one he has wouldnt be old 6ft link box that was used behind a 165 but he must have started using it as a powerbox as its in a bit of a mess

Welding Rod

Lads. The five foot transport box, I have used and abused as a power box, has finally died.
Looking now for a power box. Unsure as the correct size. Will be on a 80hp four wheel drive. Back wheel width 7 foot.
Ideally I would like 7 foot minimum to match the wheels. But I feel that’s a bit much for the size of tractor.
What do ye think?

hopeso

Welding Rod wrote: »

Lads. The five foot transport box, I have used and abused as a power box, has finally died.
Looking now for a power box. Unsure as the correct size. Will be on a 80hp four wheel drive. Back wheel width 7 foot.
Ideally I would like 7 foot minimum to match the wheels. But I feel that’s a bit much for the size of tractor.
What do ye think?

Make sure it’s as wide as the tractor. You don’t have to fill it if you find a full load is too heavy.

Base price

Is it beyond fixing. OH did a job on ours a few weeks ago. It's a Nugent and about 18 years old. It has got fair abuse over the years. The front edge was worn away and curled up. He added in new "ribs" to strengthen it as well.

Base price

He added a new front edge too.

Track9

I'm in the same boat. Seeking a Power Box for four-wheel drive.
I was advised to buy something perhaps one foot less than the Tractor Widt ( Logic being a narrower box has more strength ) and Box less likely to kink when reversing.
Anyone comment .
As regards pricing got stiff prices, just for One Hydr Ram 6 foot ( closing to 800/900 incl vat ) that was a Fleming. ??
Anyone suggest a Particular Maker & or a competitive price.

Bass Reeves

Track9 wrote: »

I'm in the same boat. Seeking a Power Box for four-wheel drive.
I was advised to buy something perhaps one foot less than the Tractor Widt ( Logic being a narrower box has more strength ) and Box less likely to kink when reversing.
Anyone comment .
As regards pricing got stiff prices, just for One Hydr Ram 6 foot ( closing to 800/900 incl vat ) that was a Fleming. ??
Anyone suggest a Particular Maker & or a competitive price.

I have never seen one link. Maybe if you decided to try to dig rock out of a quarry face with it. Ya some are heavier than others. I have a McHale I bought second hand. You want to.price around sounds expensive for a Flemming

PoorFarmer

Have a Malone with about 12 years. Would have a fair bit of heavy work done the first 6 or 7 years but not so much anymore. It's 7 feet which is slightly narrower than the tractor. I would definitely go slightly wider if I was buying again especially for cleaning sheds, feed passages etc.
Will lift the front of the tractor if completely full of stone but at 2/3 full is ok. On a valtra A95 which wouldn't be the heaviest anyway. Don't think Malone make them anymore though.
Would want to give it a fair bullocking to kink it I would imagine. Uncle took it to knock a ditch at one stage but ended up making bits of 2 top links without a mark on the box. He hired a digger in after that

hopeso

Track9 wrote: »

I'm in the same boat. Seeking a Power Box for four-wheel drive.
I was advised to buy something perhaps one foot less than the Tractor Widt ( Logic being a narrower box has more strength ) and Box less likely to kink when reversing.
Anyone comment .
As regards pricing got stiff prices, just for One Hydr Ram 6 foot ( closing to 800/900 incl vat ) that was a Fleming. ??
Anyone suggest a Particular Maker & or a competitive price.

Worst advice you ever got! Whatever you do, make sure it’s at least as wide as the tractor.

Price wise, they are expensive. Probably very little difference in any of the major makes, but price around to see. As for trying to find one for a competitive price, we’ll that’s when you might find something that will kink.....l.

endainoz

Have a 7ft Nugent for a few years now. Has a double ram, was about 1200 delivered I think. Good sturdy machine, no issues with it.

satstheway

Have this fleming 7 foot since 2002 or 2003.
Just keep it clean and slope it down so water won't lie. Filled loads of drains with it.
And yes I am a savage.

Base price

Welding Rod wrote: »

Lads. The five foot transport box, I have used and abused as a power box, has finally died.
Looking now for a power box. Unsure as the correct size. Will be on a 80hp four wheel drive. Back wheel width 7 foot.
Ideally I would like 7 foot minimum to match the wheels. But I feel that’s a bit much for the size of tractor.
What do ye think?

Track9 wrote: »

I'm in the same boat. Seeking a Power Box for four-wheel drive.
I was advised to buy something perhaps one foot less than the Tractor Widt ( Logic being a narrower box has more strength ) and Box less likely to kink when reversing.
Anyone comment .
As regards pricing got stiff prices, just for One Hydr Ram 6 foot ( closing to 800/900 incl vat ) that was a Fleming. ??
Anyone suggest a Particular Maker & or a competitive price.

hopeso wrote: »

Worst advice you ever got! Whatever you do, make sure it’s at least as wide as the tractor.

Price wise, they are expensive. Probably very little difference in any of the major makes, but price around to see. As for trying to find one for a competitive price, we’ll that’s when you might find something that will kink.....l.

As hopeso said buy one that is at least the width of the rear wheels. The Nugent in the photograph above is normally on a Fiat 880/5 DT with front weights and it's well able to handle it. We use it to clean out dry bedded sheds, feed passages, boxing dung/peat etc. On the day I took the photo it was on a 2wd Renault 781 which has a narrower wheel base. It's actually easier to clean out the feed passages when the cattle pull in silage/hay/straw after I do a run with the IH454 and scraper.

satstheway

Base price wrote: »

As hopeso said buy one that is at least the width of the rear wheels. The Nugent in the photograph above is normally on a Fiat 880/5 DT with front weights and it's well able to handle it. We use it to clean out dry bedded sheds, feed passages, boxing dung/peat etc. On the day I took the photo it was on a 2wd Renault 781 which has a narrower wheel base. It's actually easier to clean out the feed passages when the cattle pull in silage/hay/straw after I do a run with the IH454
and scraper.

We were advised the same. Width of tractor is a must. And I would go for a 7 foot fleming single ram anytime.

Base price

satstheway wrote: »

We were advised the same. Width of tractor is a must. And I would go for a 7 foot fleming single ram anytime.

I can't comment on a Fleming power box as ours is a Nugent and it's also a single ram.

memorystick

I’ve a Nugent 7 foot ordered. Have a barrel filled with concrete to act as weight and empty it whin I want to. Too old and fat to be changing clips and links and pens or pins. Too old

Welding Rod

memorystick wrote: »

I’ve a Nugent 7 foot ordered. Have a barrel filled with concrete to act as weight and empty it whin I want to. Too old and fat to be changing clips and links and pens or pins. Too old

How does a weight help you with a power box? Yes, a bit of weight up front on a lighter tractor would be helpful, if you fill the box with stone. What does a barbell of concrete do for you?

Jb1989

Welding Rod wrote: »

How does a weight help you with a power box? Yes, a bit of weight up front on a lighter tractor would be helpful, if you fill the box with stone. What does a barbell of concrete do for you?

Probly tidier and quicker on and off than loose stone dirtying the box and yard