That Bike is A Danger to Other Cyclists

Yarisbob

Hi All
I recently completed the Giro Belfast on my 1983 Peugeot 979 Vitus. I had an absolute ball although it was tough. In the last 20miles another cyclist came up on me on a 1985 Raleigh Banana 531 which he spent about a year restoring. He was dressed in the Team Banana gear. His bike was totally mint and had all the original equipment. All that was missing was Paul Sherwin !

A cyclist on a full carbon Cervelo with Zipp's came up on us and while we were chatting interrupted me saying

"You lads should not be riding bikes of that age on an event like this as they are a danger to other cyclists!"

To which Pete replied "I cant hear you over the noise of them vulgar carbon wheels"

This person was serious ! Did this other cyclist have any fair reason why he should make such a remark ? By riding a 30+ year old bike am I a danger ?

moonshadow

Jealousy manifests itself in many different ways !!

07Lapierre

No

A knob being a knob. There's always one.

Macy0161

Well I had it about my 7 month old giant defy during last years WW200, as my disc brakes were "dangerous" apparently, as I grinded up Slievemaan. The fella was getting off to walk as he said it to me...

Is there a bit of trend developing of trying to create divisions between people who have good bikes/ target times in mind for sportives and those just out for a potter around, between the ROK thread, the motorway cycle and now this one? Not really liking it if there is - room for everyone in an event surely?

Mycroft H

Hehehe good comeback. I've only had nice comments about my Peugeot 531 Pro. I don't think there's any fair reason to be honest for those remarks. Just cycle smugly onwards enjoying the superior comfort of your steel frame. Not to mention prettier too...

Mickeroo

Some people are just assholes, I wouldn't worry.

wexandproud

guys riding these ''retro'' bikes are usually far less of a danger than some of the guys on the more modern stuff

greenspurs

I was on the Stephen Roche cycle in clare recently , and i ended up cycling alongside a guy (from the North i think?) on steel Peugeot 979 (?) also, wearing the Peugeot gear, toe straps and cleats....
I had a great chat, as i have an old steel Peugeot at home that i used to race, and we chatted about "Steel is Real" etc..
But he told me he had gotten a puncture earlier that morning, and had only glued his Tub onto the Mavic rim that morning !!! Mad man....

Pure jealousy from the Carbon Jockey ........!!!

queldy

Yarisbob wrote: »

Hi All
[...]
This person was serious ! Did this other cyclist have any fair reason why he should make such a remark ? By riding a 30+ year old bike am I a danger ?

No.

Miklos

He's jealous because no matter how much money he spends on his bike it'll never be as stylish as yours.

LollipopJimmy

Some people are just ****. Wouldn't give it a second thought. I had what I call a 'Komhunter' have a pop at me on Sunday for being in his way on the Clontarf road cycle path, the part that is shared with peds and I'd slowed down to go around a group of people. **** come in all shapes sizes, colours and use all modes of transport.

Cee-Jay-Cee

If the bars are tight, the front fork free turning and the wheels secure then it's as safe as any other bike. Yer man sounds like a complete wanker.

Moflojo

Yarisbob wrote: »

Hi All
I recently completed the Giro Belfast on my 1983 Peugeot 979 Vitus. I had an absolute ball although it was tough. In the last 20miles another cyclist came up on me on a 1985 Raleigh Banana 531 which he spent about a year restoring. He was dressed in the Team Banana gear. His bike was totally mint and had all the original equipment. All that was missing was Paul Sherwin !

One of the more enjoyable aspects of sportives is seeing the vast range of bikes on display, and the most interesting of these by far are invariably the vintage bikes, especially ones that have been maintained at, or restored to, mint condition.

cython

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

If the bars are tight, the front fork free turning and the wheels secure then it's as safe as any other bike. Yer man sounds like a complete wanker.

Unless it's a fixie you might want some brakes as well :pac: In all seriousness though, Mr Cervelo-rider is a chump, and if he equates new with functional, or old with mechanically unsound, there may well be problems in his own bike that he's too dumb to cop that make it more dangerous than the OP's!

Deagol

I'm an unashamed fortysomething with a very expensive carbon with Di2 etc etc..

But, I love having a look at the older gear people turn up on for sportifs and the like and I can honestly say the only thing that goes through my mind is: I'm glad it's not me, I did my time on steel frames, pain in the ass tube gears and all the other things that have been improved since 1984

It definitely has never crossed my mind that they might be 'dangerous'. As everyone else has said, ignore the Cervelo, just a complete twat.

I am eagerly awaiting the one contrary person who always turns up on threads to argue the unarguable though

OleRodrigo

Deagol wrote: »

I'm an unashamed fortysomething with a very expensive carbon with Di2 etc etc..

But, I love having a look at the older gear people turn up on for sportifs and the like and I can honestly say the only thing that goes through my mind is: I'm glad it's not me, I did my time on steel frames, pain in the ass tube gears and all the other things that have been improved since 1984

It definitely has never crossed my mind that they might be 'dangerous'. As everyone else has said, ignore the Cervelo, just a complete twat.

I am eagerly awaiting the one contrary person who always turns up on threads to argue the unarguable though

I'll give you index gears. After that its all pants. Freddy pants!

Lusk_Doyle

Apologies. I just couldn't understand how a total Fred had gotten so far ahead of me for so long and I had not had a half caff mocacino decaff full caff frappe latte in ages that day. AND I had my aero booties on too. Major embarrassment. Attack was my method of defence.

Maybe he thought you were riding with 30 year old tires, cables and break pads

magicbastarder

if it was a particularly nice old bike, it could be dangerous if it was too distracting for other cyclists.

Wishbone Ash

Deleted User wrote: »

Maybe he thought you were riding with 30 year old tires, cables and break pads

If the OP was doing the WW200 in a really old bike (e.g.from around 1900) with fixed gearing, wooden wheels and cork brake pads, how would people feel?

Seaswimmer

Passed a group of mountain bikers in Spain last year on my 30+ year old Rossin. They started to talk to each other and point as I went past.

Only word I understood was "Classico"

Bigus

I've had aspersions cast on my replaceable Lidl water bottle, which is ,sterile, light weight , new and disposable and fits my carbon bottle holder perfectly.

cdaly_

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

If the OP was doing the WW200 in a really old bike (e.g.from around 1900) with fixed gearing, wooden wheels and cork brake pads, how would people feel?

Faster I'd imagine...

Miklos

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

If the OP was doing the WW200 in a really old bike (e.g.from around 1900) with fixed gearing, wooden wheels and cork brake pads, how would people feel?

I would imagine people would be too busy admiring his moustache and rakish hat to notice the bike.

MysticMonk

An idiot on an expensive racer nearly got pancaked today because he had to make a point of overtaking me on a narrow stretch of road. I was going pretty fast myself on my Giant hybrid.
I could hear him tutting to himself as he furiously peddled practically hitting an oncoming car in the opposite lane.
I notice this a lot with the lycra set..they simply MUST pass you out,regardless of how dangerous it is and they put me in mind of a cyclist version of Audi drivers.

Doc07

I did the Marmotte on Sunday. I struggled due to lack of miles in the last 3 months but had enough in the tank from earlier in the year to make it around and enjoy a lot of it. I was on a fairly modest Cube aluminium bike and was drooling at the Cervelos, Pinerillos and Colnagos. It seemed liked every second bike that passed me ( or that I passed) was €10,000 easy.
However the only two I will remember long term are the two young American lads on 1980 Bianchi's with down tube shifters and toe clips who passed me on the Telegraph laughing and joking to themselves having the time of their (strong and fit) lives.

Daroxtar

I had some arsewipe sneer at me a few years ago because I had an 11-32 cassette on my bike. Not messing either, a proper "dog shít on my shoe" mutter of disgust.

Tar.Aldarion

he wouldn't want to be cycling in NL, where all my bikes have been older than me.

Fireball XL5

MOD VOICE: No spoilers

magicbastarder

MysticMonk wrote: »

I notice this a lot with the lycra set..they simply MUST pass you out,regardless of how dangerous it is and they put me in mind of a cyclist version of Audi drivers.

i resent that implication.
it's BMW drivers you need to watch out for.

CramCycle

MysticMonk wrote: »

I notice this a lot with the lycra set..they simply MUST pass you out,regardless of how dangerous it is and they put me in mind of a cyclist version of Audi drivers.

It's not all but it there are some. I love it. I have had lads on sit up and beg bikes fly past me on the N11, and freds go past me on reds only to try and catch me as I coast past. Some people are d1cks, some people aren't. Sometimes it is nice if you can make the ones who are feel like they are.

magicbastarder wrote: »

i resent that implication.
it's BMW drivers you need to watch out for.

Sorry, no, it hasn't been for about 4 years.

rollingscone

MysticMonk wrote: »

An idiot on an expensive racer nearly got pancaked today because he had to make a point of overtaking me on a narrow stretch of road. I was going pretty fast myself on my Giant hybrid.
I could hear him tutting to himself as he furiously peddled practically hitting an oncoming car in the opposite lane.
I notice this a lot with the lycra set..they simply MUST pass you out,regardless of how dangerous it is and they put me in mind of a cyclist version of Audi drivers.

I often find it's the try hards on Hybrids are the worst for turning everything into a race

Full disclosure though some lad on an old steel MTB in cargo shorts steamed past me up the the feather beds on Sunday never to be seen again...

tomasrojo

Wishbone Ash wrote: »

If the OP was doing the WW200 in a really old bike (e.g.from around 1900) with fixed gearing, wooden wheels and cork brake pads, how would people feel?

Laufmaschine, FTW.

Fireball XL5

Fireball XL5 wrote: »

MOD VOICE: No spoilers

Spoiler - Wha???

This was already being up on and the subject of discussion on TDF Stage thread for some hours before I posted.

Darkglasses

That's baffling. Should have asked what possible reason there was for them being dangerous

rodneyTrotter.

Ive done a few sportiffes on an old Raleigh Dynatech from the 90s . There is actually something nice about passing guys on pinarellos and the like .
If anything I've gotten compliments but some people are just flash vulgar and ignorant
Same muppets would be like that in all aspects of life.

The tax man

Doc07 wrote: »

I did the Marmotte on Sunday. I struggled due to lack of miles in the last 3 months but had enough in the tank from earlier in the year to make it around and enjoy a lot of it. I was on a fairly modest Cube aluminium bike and was drooling at the Cervelos, Pinerillos and Colnagos. It seemed liked every second bike that passed me ( or that I passed) was €10,000 easy.
However the only two I will remember long term are the two young American lads on 1980 Bianchi's with down tube shifters and toe clips who passed me on the Telegraph laughing and joking to themselves having the time of their (strong and fit) lives.

I was drooling over a guy riding a Look Hinault KG76 with full Mavic groupset going up the Telegraph. If I ever get my GoPro back, I have him on film. Saw lots of riders on vintage stuff that day.

CramCycle

Fireball XL5 wrote: »

Spoiler - Wha???

This was already being up on and the subject of discussion on TDF Stage thread for some hours before I posted.

And at that point some people may not have read the stage thread. It was before midnight so some people may be working odd hours or shifts and would be avoiding the stage thread until they watched the highlights etc.

Fireball XL5

CramCycle wrote: »

And at that point some people may not have read the stage thread. It was before midnight so some people may be working odd hours or shifts and would be avoiding the stage thread until they watched the highlights etc.

Pretty thin justification for the deletion of a comment that revealed absolutely ZERO information -

Doc07

The tax man wrote: »

I was drooling over a guy riding a Look Hinault KG76 with full Mavic groupset going up the Telegraph. If I ever get my GoPro back, I have him on film. Saw lots of riders on vintage stuff that day.

I'm spotting a trend here, maybe all the vintage lads got a lift to the base of the Telegraphe , loitered up the climb and then disappeared again into hipster heaven in Valloire

CramCycle

Fireball XL5 wrote: »

Pretty thin justification for the deletion of a comment that revealed absolutely ZERO information -

Lets take it to PM if you wish to discuss further but it is in the forum rules and it clearly suggested a crash between the two riders.

Lusk_Doyle

CramCycle wrote: »

Lets take it to PM

What MODs say to each other when they get horny!

Cookie_Monster

I wonder what he'd have to say about the guy who does my local round the mountain (160km) on a unicycle every year?
It's only about 5 years old though

CramCycle

Lusk_Doyle wrote: »

What MODs say to each other when they get horny!

Jokes on you, mods don't have feelings and reproduce asexually.

AmberGold

"Did this other cyclist have any fair reason why he should make such a remark ?"

Obviously a nutter disguised as a cyclist.

Fireball XL5

CramCycle wrote: »

Lets take it to PM if you wish to discuss further but it is in the forum rules and it clearly suggested a crash between the two riders.

Sorry but life is just too short to concern myself with this particular form of silliness on your part - so no thanks.

rollingscone

Fireball XL5 wrote: »

Sorry but life is just too short to concern myself with this particular form of silliness on your part - so no thanks.

Not the moral high ground you seem to think it is.

Back on topic. Has anyone ever encountered an actually dangerous bike (as opposed to a rider) on a Sportive?

Aside from the universal flouting of the no aerobars rule?

Miklos

I've been out on a spin with a fella who had one worn cleat and his foot would pull out at random intervals while climbing. Needless to say I steered clear but he could easily have someone go straight into the back of him with the sudden deceleration while climbing.

Trekker09

rollingscone wrote: »

Not the moral high ground you seem to think it is.

Back on topic. Has anyone ever encountered an actually dangerous bike (as opposed to a rider) on a Sportive?

Aside from the universal flouting of the no aerobars rule?

Not sure if it was dangerous or not but a bloke had a really noisy bike on the Tour de Kilkenny 2 years ago. It was like the RD was clipping the spokes while grinding diamond grade coffee! He seemed oblivious to it and, as it was quite near the start, was obviously not a problem that had just happened.

Yarisbob

greenspurs wrote: »

I was on the Stephen Roche cycle in clare recently , and i ended up cycling alongside a guy (from the North i think?) on steel Peugeot 979 (?) also, wearing the Peugeot gear, toe straps and cleats....
I had a great chat, as i have an old steel Peugeot at home that i used to race, and we chatted about "Steel is Real" etc..
But he told me he had gotten a puncture earlier that morning, and had only glued his Tub onto the Mavic rim that morning !!! Mad man....

Pure jealousy from the Carbon Jockey ........!!!

I happen to know that certain person quite well - he will make sure that nothing is left to chance as he will starts the prep on the bike weeks in advance ! He spent the previous week making sure his tubs were properly glued and cured ! A puncture before the start was unfortunate as it was the front ! He took his time and stayed away from groups on the decents in cade the tub rolled - he takes both his safety and others very seriously ! This fella is a bit of a quirk and is intending to ride the Lap the Lough on a 531 Raleigh Track bike with fixed gear and both brakes ! Will be worth seeing that !