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Renault Koleos

  • 04-07-2017 9:46am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭


    Hi
    Any other Renault Koleos owners around here?
    (the original 08 version I mean)
    Just want to compare notes etc.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    A friend has one from new. Any specific questions and I'll forward them on to him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    vidapura wrote: »
    Hi
    Any other Renault Koleos owners around here?
    (the original 08 version I mean)
    Just want to compare notes etc.

    Thanks

    Bought one recently ('10) because the spec & overall quality had a lot of merit and the price was attractive. Just completed 5k miles in 2 months and quite pleased overall.
    It has quirks though...e.g. the radio switches off 10 mins after the engine is switched off so it's impossible to park the car and listen to the radio. Also you can't open or close the windows without starting the engine also the radio quits as soon as you open the car door. Those bloody French must be an odd lot.
    On the plus side though, it does drive like a real quality motor and very comfortably so. I'm gonna enjoy the quality for awhile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Hiya,
    Nice to hear someone else with a Koleos. (Or a Colon as the lads slag me with...)

    You CAN open windows, etc, with engine off..
    Just hit the Start button twice when the engine is off to enable all the electrics.

    Have you figured out the keyless entry/locking yet?
    Took me a while, heh... but after a bit of headscratchin we worked it out..
    Couldn't lock it at all one day until I realised my wifes handbag was in the boot containing the spare key.. and it won't lock with a key inside ...sheesh.

    Sadly mine has gotten quite noisy recently.. some sort of bearing or shaft.. used to be silky quiet.. brilliant on the motorway..
    But now when I decelerate .. when it gets down around 40mph a really snarly noise starts.. goes away again when down towards 30mph...

    Not sure what thats about... but will just have to keep going until it turns into something tangible.

    Overall still like it a lot... reporting 34mpg at the moment...

    PJ

    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    Bought one recently ('10) because the spec & overall quality had a lot of merit and the price was attractive. Just completed 5k miles in 2 months and quite pleased overall.
    It has quirks though...e.g. the radio switches off 10 mins after the engine is switched off so it's impossible to park the car and listen to the radio. Also you can't open or close the windows without starting the engine also the radio quits as soon as you open the car door. Those bloody French must be an odd lot.
    On the plus side though, it does drive like a real quality motor and very comfortably so. I'm gonna enjoy the quality for awhile.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,641 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    vidapura wrote: »
    Hiya,
    Nice to hear someone else with a Koleos. (Or a Colon as the lads slag me with...)

    You CAN open windows, etc, with engine off..
    Just hit the Start button twice when the engine is off to enable all the electrics.


    Have you figured out the keyless entry/locking yet?
    Took me a while, heh... but after a bit of headscratchin we worked it out..
    Couldn't lock it at all one day until I realised my wifes handbag was in the boot containing the spare key.. and it won't lock with a key inside ...sheesh.

    Sadly mine has gotten quite noisy recently.. some sort of bearing or shaft.. used to be silky quiet.. brilliant on the motorway..
    But now when I decelerate .. when it gets down around 40mph a really snarly noise starts.. goes away again when down towards 30mph...

    Not sure what thats about... but will just have to keep going until it turns into something tangible.

    Overall still like it a lot... reporting 34mpg at the moment...

    PJ


    I tried to figure out how to put the windows up with the engine off today and i couldn't. had to start the engine in the end. thanks for the tip. I get 40mg from mine but i'm driving miss daisy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    vidapura wrote: »
    Hiya,
    Nice to hear someone else with a Koleos. (Or a Colon as the lads slag me with...)

    You CAN open windows, etc, with engine off..
    Just hit the Start button twice when the engine is off to enable all the electrics.

    Have you figured out the keyless entry/locking yet?
    Took me a while, heh... but after a bit of headscratchin we worked it out..
    Couldn't lock it at all one day until I realised my wifes handbag was in the boot containing the spare key.. and it won't lock with a key inside ...sheesh.

    Sadly mine has gotten quite noisy recently.. some sort of bearing or shaft.. used to be silky quiet.. brilliant on the motorway..
    But now when I decelerate .. when it gets down around 40mph a really snarly noise starts.. goes away again when down towards 30mph...

    Not sure what thats about... but will just have to keep going until it turns into something tangible.

    Overall still like it a lot... reporting 34mpg at the moment...

    PJ
    Vida.....many tks for that information which is very useful. Now can you explain to me plz, how is it possible for the tyre pressures to be included in onscreen information messages ?
    I am not a child of the cyberworld as you can tell !


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,641 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    Vida.....many tks for that information which is very useful. Now can you explain to me plz, how is it possible for the tyre pressures to be included in onscreen information messages ?
    I am not a child of the cyberworld as you can tell !


    it cant display the actual tyre pressures it only tells you if the pressure in a tyre is too low or if you have a puncture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    I tried to figure out how to put the windows up with the engine off today and i couldn't. had to start the engine in the end. thanks for the tip. I get 40mg from mine but i'm driving miss daisy

    Hmm.. dunno .. works for me.


    Like with the engine off and your feet not on any pedals...
    press the Start button .. and press it again .. the dash symbols all light up briefly.. (near the speedo) .. and then you should be good to go.

    Maybe try have the radio on when the car is running.. then switch the car off...
    Then press the Start button again (twice) until the radio comes back on..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    it cant display the actual tyre pressures it only tells you if the pressure in a tyre is too low or if you have a puncture.

    Yeah, I think onnonotgmail is right about that..

    Just tells you if the pressure is not ok.. but I haven't experienced it yet so can't tell you for certain...

    The manual says it only tells you 5 things:

    “Adjust tyre pressure”
    “Underinflation critical”
    “Puncture”
    “Check tyre pressure sensors” - might be a fault in sensor or system
    “Tyre pressure sensors absent” - no signal from the sensor..

    So it doesn't give you a number in psi or whatever..
    It does however indicate which tyre its got a problem with..
    Which is nice...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,641 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    vidapura wrote: »
    Hmm.. dunno .. works for me.


    Like with the engine off and your feet not on any pedals...
    press the Start button .. and press it again .. the dash symbols all light up briefly.. (near the speedo) .. and then you should be good to go.

    Maybe try have the radio on when the car is running.. then switch the car off...
    Then press the Start button again (twice) until the radio comes back on..

    what i meant is i needed to do it on saturday but couldn't figure out how. i didnt see your post until after that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    I'm thinking of running this nice Koleas for maybe 3 years (bought nearly 3 months ago with 70k on odometer) but a couple of naysayers say "there's no spare parts for those yokes....you'd be mad etc". Anyone to risk assess the situation plz ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    I'm thinking of running this nice Koleas for maybe 3 years (bought nearly 3 months ago with 70k on odometer) but a couple of naysayers say "there's no spare parts for those yokes....you'd be mad etc". Anyone to risk assess the situation plz ?

    Hiya,
    Yah, there is plenty of naysaying that happens alright.
    And I think most of it is not so much naysaying as Begrudgery.
    They are just afraid to take a chance and are jealous of how cheap we got our vehicles for.. so they are just pissing all over it..

    Look, as far as I've been reading, the Koleos ('08) is basically an X-trail under the skin. And the original reviews were more than positive:

    https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/road-tests/renault/renault-koleos-2008-road-test//

    So most of the major components.. engine, gearbox, axles, whatever would be easy to get hold of.
    As for interior and trim and all the rest I've been able to find plenty of availability online.

    I looked at the question of survival.. like how many of these vehicles actually bit the dust (and left owners in misey) cos that was alleged to be the case loads of times in forums I'd read...

    But if you read, you find out that about 2500 of the original Koleos's were sold in the UK. Now how many of them are still running? Well.. there's a website that tells you... Its called HowManyLeft .. funnily enough...

    https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=koleos&commit=Search

    That shows how many of them were taxed in the UK each year.. and so are still on the road...
    So, if you add up the numbers in the 2016 or 2017 column you will end up with.. 2646... Or just look at the chart..

    https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/renault_koleos_privilege_dci_4wd


    So, this is all a bit rough in terms of estimating..probably a few new cars were sold and few were crashed.. but basically.. if the naysayers were to be believed there would be almost no original Koleos's still on the road..

    If however there are in fact over 2600 of them still on the road.. well then.. you decide how much notice you are going to take of the begrudgers...

    Personally I like my Koleos.. The drivers seat is a very comfortable place to be , good visibilty, not cramped, and quiet and unfussed on the motorway.
    I've all the mod cons, the cruise and the stereo controls on the steering wheel, the bluetooth and auto wipers and all the other nice stuff..
    And for what I paid for it.. well.. even if it needs a few quid spent... I won't be too unhappy...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,641 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    I'm thinking of running this nice Koleas for maybe 3 years (bought nearly 3 months ago with 70k on odometer) but a couple of naysayers say "there's no spare parts for those yokes....you'd be mad etc". Anyone to risk assess the situation plz ?


    as vidupura said the koleos uses nissan xtril running gear so parts for that shouldnt be a problem. The engine in the koleos is used in the laguna and other models so parts for that shouldnt be a problem either. I got a very comfortable car with a great spec (mine is the dynamique spec and has Bose speakers including a subwoofer) for very little money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    All these comments are of great interest to me and help to give me a better sense of comfort about the Koleos. The amount of information from quite credible sources is impressive and goes a long way, with me anyway, to dispel the niggling doubts I had associated with the uncertain origins of the Koleos per se. Sincere thanks everyone who has helped to light the way.
    It's a car that kinda grows on you and is just a steal at the money right now. The quality and robustness of the car build puts it up there with some of the topdrawer mojos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Hi Dionysius2,

    I do hope I'm not leading you astray :)

    All I can tell you from personal experience is I've had mine since mid March and have driven close on 5k miles without any problems.

    That said, my Koleos was really low mileage (47k miles) and in immaculate condition. I knew the dealer I was buying it from personally, etc...

    When buying any used car the usual advice applies.. get someone who knows about cars to look at the car for you. How a car was treated by a previous owner has a lot more bearing on its future reliability than anything else in my opinion. So a service history and overall condition of interior can tell you a lot.

    Best of luck with whatever you get.

    PJ


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    Your info & advice have been useful. Love the mojo and will settle in for a couple of years happy motoring (hopefully). Very good on the fuel economy front too....reckon I'm getting circa 33/34 mpg now and that's just great for such a big car. That door locking procedure is surely something else though....they should hold demos on it each fall !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    That door locking procedure is surely something else though....they should hold demos on it each fall !

    Heh heh.. yeah.. it took me a while to get the hang of it.
    Once I realised that the keyless entry only works after you've locked the door by pressing the buttons on the doorhandles.. that was the breakthrough...

    Its brilliant not having to fish for keys when you are running out tot he car in the rain.. especially here in Galway...sigh.. heh..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,617 ✭✭✭ba_barabus


    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    I'm thinking of running this nice Koleas for maybe 3 years (bought nearly 3 months ago with 70k on odometer) but a couple of naysayers say "there's no spare parts for those yokes....you'd be mad etc". Anyone to risk assess the situation plz ?

    It shares a lot of parts under the skin with the Qashqai and XTrail. A friend runs one and gets everything easily.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    ba_barabus wrote: »
    It shares a lot of parts under the skin with the Qashqai and XTrail. A friend runs one and gets everything easily.

    Good to know that...Tks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    Can anyone assist in some radio fine-tuning needs aboard my Koleos. Let me explain, pl. Over a great many years motoring I've always enjoyed tuning in to foreign radio stations esp the BBC Stations and certain other stations on the global spectrum. Nowadays, in my super super Koleos, (and several of my mojos over the past decade or so) I have great difficulty in tuning in to those stations. They are hard as hell to find and when I do manage to make a connection, it fades all too soon or becomes impossible to listen to on account of static interference. Any solutions, plz ?
    TIA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Hiya,

    I think you might be having problems because you are using FM.
    If you are in the UK if you use FM it works fine.. cos FM is good for relatively short distances.
    But if you are further away you need to use Longwave.

    The radio in the Koleos and in most cars defaults to FM.
    You can change it to LW using the selector... on the steering wheel control.. on the very top of it are two flat triangular buttons... press one of them until the radio displays LW and then use the button (>>|) on the radio to search for stations.

    Hope this is of help
    PJ


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    vidapura wrote: »
    Hiya,

    I think you might be having problems because you are using FM.
    If you are in the UK if you use FM it works fine.. cos FM is good for relatively short distances.
    But if you are further away you need to use Longwave.

    The radio in the Koleos and in most cars defaults to FM.
    You can change it to LW using the selector... on the steering wheel control.. on the very top of it are two flat triangular buttons... press one of them until the radio displays LW and then use the button (>>|) on the radio to search for stations.

    Hope this is of help
    PJ

    Hi Vida...many thanks... that sounds just about right icon14.png and will be actioned by me in that manner just as soon as Dublin's worst recorded weather storm (Ophelia) has receded into oblivion. My next query (or statement !) will be about the storm survival qualities of my Koleos.
    :eek: P.S. If there are bubbles...that's where to look !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    Yep...that worked. Muchas gracias.smile.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Ahh great !!
    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    Yep...that worked. Muchas gracias.smile.png


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    OOps...haven't been on here since October 2017 and I've still got my Koleos. Overall performance has been very good...one mis-fuel incident...one puncture...2 new tyres...otherwise fine. But I have a problem now that troubles me. I've had two flat batteries oved the past couple of months on a one year old battery. Left me sitting away from home with the missus and a lot of inconvenience and distress.
    The root cause is that I am retired now and do not have longish drives to pep up the battery. My weeks motoringwise relate to short runs to supermarket, schoolpickups (gr/children), church, etc and many times I'm sitting in the car waiting for madam to return and I have the radio on and the heater & mister (it's winter !!) and when I hit the start button in my Koleos Diesel...no response...zilch...catastrophe.
    Now I have a battery charger and what I'd like to know is whether or not I can charge the battery when parked in my driveway without disconnecting the battery. Would that upset the electrics or is there some other downside in so doing that this amateurish car owner knows so little about?
    Advice, please....and T.I.A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Hiya,
    I see you're back just in time for another storm.. heh..

    Yah, I had the same thing happen with my Koleos too.. last Oct when I had a dose of flu.. left it sit for a week while I hogged the bed.
    Had to dig out my jump leads to get the old horse moving again.

    We also had a nightmare one day in the underground carpark in town.. I left my darling wife and son in the car while I went to grab something real quick. But it being lidl I got sidetracked with all the special buy tools etc.. so I was gone about 25 mins. When I got back she had flattened the battery with the radio trying to keep the youngfella from wigging out.. sigh.. To make it all perfect BOTH of our mobile phones were out of charge too..

    I'm no mechanic but I don't think its too unusual. My wifes Qashqai has pulled the same stunt a few times too.
    It IS a bit disappointing that a big battery like that can't keep the radio going for an hour or so..

    Its a bit more of a problem these days cos I find people are less and less comfortable about jump starting other peoples cars. The newer cars are so full of electronics, or actual batteries, that the advice is just not to do it at all.

    So, whats a guy to do?

    I haven't had the problem in a while .. but I reckon one of those battery packs.. might be worth lookin at.
    Some of them are very neat altogether, you'd nearly carry em in your pocket.

    https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/92728/best-mini-jump-starter-packs-2019
    https://kit.honestjohn.co.uk/top-tens/top-10-jump-starters/

    Just need to make sure it works for a diesel cos they need a more powerful crank to get going.

    I honestly don't know if its a good idea to leave a charger plugged in.
    I'd worry about it eventually setting the car on fire.. but I don't know if thats unfounded or not.

    But knowing me I'd barrel out the door some day and forget to unplug it... tear out the gate with an extension cord trailing...

    I did notice in a car dealers one day that the guy had a power pack to start cars that hadn't moved in a while..

    The smaller power pack does have the portability advantage too... if you get caught out in the supermarket or wherever...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    Hiya VP...old friends are best as the advert says...once again you are helping to put me on the right track. I like the mini powerpack idea and will explore it locally. Sounds like the solution for me !

    vidapura wrote: »
    Hiya,
    I see you're back just in time for another storm.. heh..

    Yah, I had the same thing happen with my Koleos too.. last Oct when I had a dose of flu.. left it sit for a week while I hogged the bed.
    Had to dig out my jump leads to get the old horse moving again.

    We also had a nightmare one day in the underground carpark in town.. I left my darling wife and son in the car while I went to grab something real quick. But it being lidl I got sidetracked with all the special buy tools etc.. so I was gone about 25 mins. When I got back she had flattened the battery with the radio trying to keep the youngfella from wigging out.. sigh.. To make it all perfect BOTH of our mobile phones were out of charge too..

    I'm no mechanic but I don't think its too unusual. My wifes Qashqai has pulled the same stunt a few times too.
    It IS a bit disappointing that a big battery like that can't keep the radio going for an hour or so..

    Its a bit more of a problem these days cos I find people are less and less comfortable about jump starting other peoples cars. The newer cars are so full of electronics, or actual batteries, that the advice is just not to do it at all.

    So, whats a guy to do?

    I haven't had the problem in a while .. but I reckon one of those battery packs.. might be worth lookin at.
    Some of them are very neat altogether, you'd nearly carry em in your pocket.

    https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/accessories-tyres/92728/best-mini-jump-starter-packs-2019
    https://kit.honestjohn.co.uk/top-tens/top-10-jump-starters/

    Just need to make sure it works for a diesel cos they need a more powerful crank to get going.

    I honestly don't know if its a good idea to leave a charger plugged in.
    I'd worry about it eventually setting the car on fire.. but I don't know if thats unfounded or not.

    But knowing me I'd barrel out the door some day and forget to unplug it... tear out the gate with an extension cord trailing...

    I did notice in a car dealers one day that the guy had a power pack to start cars that hadn't moved in a while..

    The smaller power pack does have the portability advantage too... if you get caught out in the supermarket or wherever...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Ahh good, glad to be of help.:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    vidapura wrote: »
    Ahh good, glad to be of help.:D
    Hi Vida....long time...no signals...hope u well.
    You sorted me before so here goes with another problem.
    My elec roof closes on the button ok but instantly re-opens about 6 inches and keeps on repeating that. Cause...solution ?


    Dion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Hi Dionysius1,
    Well, its very nice to know I have been some help in the past!

    I'm afraid my Koleos doesn't have a sunroof.. so I have no direct experience of that problem...

    But I'm wondering if there is anything caught in the sunroof ? Or if something small got into the track ?
    Generally sunroofs have a safety feature where they reverse if they encounter resistance...
    Did you maybe stand on the seat and have a good look around in the groove/track that the sunroof follows?
    Bit of a branch off a tree or a road chipping could be in there...

    Vida


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,129 ✭✭✭kirving


    Sounds like the sensor to detect that it's closed is not being met - so the motor keeps going, hits resistance, and reopens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    Vidapurs/Kevin Irving....taking both advices, I fiddled around with the track and the button and discovered the button seems to be the culprit. When I close it with finger pressed and instantly press the button back it stays closed (maybe too much movement in the button) so it's sorted ...for now anyway....I'll check with Renault though sometime soon.
    Thks guys. Glad of your help,
    Dion

    P.S. I see where Donald T says he had Covid 20 because Covid 19 is for losers ! Huh!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Hiya,
    That still actually sounds like what Kevin said.
    If you hit the back button you are stopping the motor.
    There should be a sensor that tells the motor to stop when the roof closes..
    And you are doing its job for it..

    So, I think Kevin is right.. the 'closed' sensor appears to be dead.

    Its probably a little microswitch that needs to be pressed by the sliding bit of the roof. ( a bit like how your dishwasher does't start till the door is closed properly)

    I would take a careful look along the leading edge of the opening..(the side closer to the windscreen..) and see if you can spot the switch.. a little push-in pin... it could just be jammed...

    Vida


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    Hi guys
    Anyone to offer me advice on a warning sign which has appeared on my Kol Eos dashboard the other day? It shows a little icon which looks like a connector of some sort and when I check the handbook I find that this part is a 'particulate filter'. I now have 130K mileage approx and no major probs and due a service and NCT in 3 weeks time. My neighbour says that the particulate filter can cost up to €1k. Ooops.
    What are my options?
    Is the P filter thingy a fail in the NCT Test?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Ahh good mornin!
    Glad to see the Covid hasn't got you!

    From what my mechanic tells me the particulate filter is otherwise known as the DPF.
    And it causes problems for people who buy diesel cars when they shouldn't.. his words not mine.
    Basically, he reckons, a diesel car is for people who travel long distances.. not people who noodle around in the local area.
    If you are not a sales rep or a long commuter then you will avoid hassle with particulate filters if you stick to petrol cars.

    The DPF seems to agree with him.. heh... cos it doesn't like when the car is not used for long journeys.
    It can get clogged up if you only do short trips to the shops/schools etc... it needs a long hard drive to blow out the contents of the filter.. think it actually gets hot enough to burn the particulates to nothing. This is called 'regeneration'.. see more here:
    https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/emissions/diesel-particulate-filters/

    So, one cure for a lot of DPF problems can be to run the car hard for a long distance.

    If you can manage it, before you go to a garage, I would suggest getting that Koleos out onto the motorway and driving it at 120kph for 20 or 30 miles...

    With the 5km travel restrictions in place right now tho.. thats requires a bit of guile...

    I avoid the Gardai when doing this by getting on the motorway at a local on-ramp that they don't watch and then blasting off to another exit 20 miles away when I can do a loop back and head home again to the place I started at...

    I've not had any DPF problems (touch wood) so far but only have 77k miles on my 08 Koleos.


    ----Another unlikely thing

    BTW there might be one other less pleasant explanation... a stolen DPF...
    I dunno how likely it is.. probably the car wouldn't run at all without it... but I read lately that there has been a rash of DPF and catalytic converter thefts around the country lately.
    I'm probably being silly now.. but take a look under the car and just see if anything looks like its missing off the exhaust area...

    Nahh.. it couldn't be...


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    .............. My weeks motoringwise relate to short runs to supermarket, schoolpickups (gr/children), church, etc and many times I'm sitting in the car waiting for madam to return and I have the radio on and the heater & mister (it's winter !!) and when I hit the start button in my Koleos Diesel...no response...zilch...catastrophe.
    ......

    I'd never sit in a car with the heater on unless the engine is running, if there's a stop/start system fitted it should fire the engine back on very quickly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    Vida & Augeo......lots of good advice there and I thank ye for it. I will try giving my car a run and hope it banishes the icon. Is it a fail if the icon continues to show at NCT test time? The observation about diesel under used is bang on the money. I have gone from 12/15K annual mileage to less than 5k.


  • Posts: 17,728 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's no mention of the DPF light in the NCT manual.....

    https://www.rsa.ie/Documents/NCT/New%202018/NCT%20Manual%202018.pdf

    Page 102 of the NCT manual details what warning lights are checked to be in working order and of course the car will fail if they are illuminated. The DPF light is not listed here, however neither is the engine warning light.

    On page 13 it's detailed that if the check engine light is illuminated "Decline to do
    Smoke Test until fault rectified"

    Now the blocked DPF light isn't the check engine light of course but I'd be slow to throw the car in with it illuminated as the RSA did publish this thing......

    https://www.rsa.ie/Documents/NCT/New%202018/NCT%20Manual%202018.pdf

    I reckon with the light on they'd presume that the DPF was either blocked or bodged and fail it as the system isn't working. Doubt they'd even test the emissions really. Page 15 of the manual instructs the tester to "Check visually that the emission control system is complete and properly connected and that there are no leaks in the exhaust system" ...... I can't see them not having issue with the DPF light being illuminated as it's indicative that the emissions control system isn't functioning.

    All of the DPF delete specialists code the DPF light off also as part of the service.

    All that said I reckon a nice spin will sort yours all going well :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Wow, thats a handy manual Augeo.. thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    Great responses...many thanks. Will be a few days before I'll feel I can take to the road again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    Great responses...many thanks. Will be a few days before I'll feel I can take to the road again.

    Hey, did you ever do anything about the battery problem?

    After being let down again one night in very awkward circumstances, I finally changed mine.

    Makes a world of difference. I have left it 3 or 4 days now and it still starts fine.
    AND its stopped asking me to change the battery in my keycard too... odd but true... heh heh...

    It might be just wishful thinkin but I feel it runs better now as well..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    Vidapurs.....I got the battery tooped up and ever since I plan my week so that I do a 50k run and I've stopped cut out my heater use when stationery. Battery operates O.K. but my ear tells me that the starting jab is not as powerful as when I was doing bigger runs. However, like many thinhs in life....it's a question of learning how to manage it within limitations. Hope to give it a goodish run shortly and hope thereby to get rid of the particulate filter warning sign.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    The DPF filter warning light has exited my dash after I did a qk spin 50K out and back and has stayed away. Happy man....thks to you and all advisers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Brilliant, glad to hear it worked.

    Just keep that up once a month or go even further if at all possible.. and hopefully twill keep the light away...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    I'm in a pickle. NCT looming for my 09 Kol Eos. My mechanic says car is in very good nick but needs LFH/light as water has eroded the current one. Renault advise me replacement cost is €500.....yes €500 !!! None to be got via s/hand dealers in RoI and the only one in NI is not the right fitting as my mechanic informs me. Any inspiration available from my Kol Eos friends who saved my bacon before on other probs?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Ahh jayses.. thats bad luck !
    The headlight rotted? Wow... haven't had that with mine ...
    €500 is a killer... had something similar with the wifes Qashqai .. the lamp holder had rotted.. and they would only sell me the full tail light for silly money too.. So I found the part on AliExpress or one of them.. unlikely they would have the Koleos bits tho..

    Don't suppose an X-Trail headlight would fit.. seeing as they are based on them??

    I presume the NI guys you talked to were Traynors?
    They are huge like..

    I remember seeing a coupla guys advertising breaking Koleos's on DoneDeal too...

    Last resort would probably be ebay.fr eh? France being the home of all things renault no?


    There is a uk renault owners forum that has a thread on Koleos too.. maybe ask there?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,282 ✭✭✭PsychoPete


    Dionysius2 wrote: »
    I'm in a pickle. NCT looming for my 09 Kol Eos. My mechanic says car is in very good nick but needs LFH/light as water has eroded the current one. Renault advise me replacement cost is €500.....yes €500 !!! None to be got via s/hand dealers in RoI and the only one in NI is not the right fitting as my mechanic informs me. Any inspiration available from my Kol Eos friends who saved my bacon before on other probs?

    Koleos wasn't very popular, we never stocked parts for them as we only have one that would come in for maintenance. If it doesn't have to be a oem headlight I'd try autodoc, delivery might be a tad expensive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,905 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    Lad on adverts breaking an 09 one. He's in the north. Was that the one your mechanic said wasn't the right one for your car. Did he give a reason?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 342 ✭✭Dionysius2


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Lad on adverts breaking an 09 one. He's in the north. Was that the one your mechanic said wasn't the right one for your car. Did he give a reason?


    Yes. He looked at it having taken mine apart and said: "Not the same" and he said it doesn't have the balanced control unit which shuild be bolted on underneath.....however that b c unit can be bought separately ....at another inflated price !.......so I'm still searching. All suggestions gratefully considered. Tk you all in advance and fingers X.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    Ehh, found a couple on DoneDeal.. just searched like this:

    https://www.donedeal.ie/all?words=koleos&campaign=14&sort=price%20asc

    Did you look at this one?
    https://www.donedeal.ie/damagedcars-for-sale/2011-renault-koleos-2-0-dci-4wd-for-breaking/26976433
    Looks like the frontend is intact at least...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 762 ✭✭✭vidapura


    And if you read all the way down this ad.. this guy has a headlight...

    https://www.donedeal.ie/carparts-for-sale/renault-car-parts/23594042?campaign=14


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