Golf damage repair estimate

Clem H Fandango

The missus just crashed the golf, a 2017 mkvii, by reversing out of a space in tesco and took the side out of it. The front bumper and fender are crumpled, bonnet and door seem completely fine.
Any estimate on a rough repair price before I take it down the garage monday??

Toyotafanboi

Sounds expensive tbh. Any pics?

Clem H Fandango

Not sure how to add pics, will try at the PC later.
The front fender and bumper will definitely need coming off and replacing

Voodoomelon

If it's an all new wing and front bumper, you're talking €400-€500 in parts, plus labour, materials (paint) and VAT. Good bit north of €1000.

Neilw

Voodoomelon wrote: »

If it's an all new wing and front bumper, you're talking €400-€500 in parts, plus labour, materials (paint) and VAT. Good bit north of €1000.

Might need parking sensors, acc sensor plus calibration. I'm guessing €2k all in.

colm_mcm

Get an estimate on Monday. Don't panic till then.

JoeA3

OSI wrote: »

Just remember that if you bought on finance, it must be repaired by a VW garage.

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Most main dealers don't do bodywork. They'll farm it off to one of the local indie bodyshops. They'll probably recommend one to use if you ask but you might as well go to them direct then.

Toyotafanboi

Bodyshops can be a bit of a minefield though and most aren't retail orientated.

If in doubt and you want a good standard of work done I'd take it to a main dealer. Even if it's sub contracted, it should go to an approved repaired.

Clem H Fandango

Heres the damage here:

http://imgur.com/a/9i8FL
http://imgur.com/a/JgzoS

goz83

They may save the bumper, but that wing is toast. Reversing too fast? Looks like she hit the trolley bay or something.

Falcon L

I can't see it too clearly but, is the headlight broken also?

Clem H Fandango

goz83 wrote: »

They may save the bumper, but that wing is toast. Reversing too fast? Looks like she hit the trolley bay or something.

Hard to see in the pictures but there is a fair few cracks on the bumper.
Turns out she was reversing out and caught one of the beams (one of those tescos with the car park on the ground floor and the store upstairs)

Clem H Fandango

Falcon L wrote: »

I can't see it too clearly but, is the headlight broken also?

Yup. Lights work fine but think its all one unit? So will need fully replacing.

goz83

Clem H Fandango wrote: »

Hard to see in the pictures but there is a fair few cracks on the bumper.
Turns out she was reversing out and caught one of the beams (one of those tescos with the car park on the ground floor and the store upstairs)

Ah right. So bumper, headlight unit and wing. It happens. Hopefully she isn't in too much trouble

Seen the same thing happen in the clarehall Tesco recently, except the woman driving drove straight into the beam.

Clem H Fandango

goz83 wrote: »

Ah right. So bumper, headlight unit and wing. It happens. Hopefully she isn't in too much trouble

Seen the same thing happen in the clarehall Tesco recently, except the woman driving drove straight into the beam.

Looks like a good 2 grand sadly.
Haha she'll be walking to tesco from now on

punisher5112

I got a quote of over 4k for not much more damage then that.

Wing, bumper, mirror and door

Clem H Fandango

punisher5112 wrote: »

I got a quote of over 4k for not much more damage then that.

Wing, bumper, mirror and door

Christ thats pricey! Luckily the door is fine.

Blazer

Clem H Fandango wrote: »

Looks like a good 2 grand sadly.
Haha she'll be walking to tesco from now on

Yep at a minimum it's 2k. Seriously wtf was your wife doing parking near a pillar in a 171.

Colser

Blazer wrote: »

Yep at a minimum it's 2k. Seriously wtf was your wife doing parking near a pillar in a 171.

Well some of us are warned not to park near other cars,not to park near trolley bays,park miles away from the actual shops ,park in a corner in work,don't park beside women drivers,don't go near cars with baby seats or baby on board signs ect.,mind the alloys ect.ðŸ˜

OP hope it's not too expensive for you..those pillars could catch anyone out..dying to know how you reacted,I'd probably be hearing about it for the rest of my life ðŸ˜

fullstop

Don't forget to factor the cost of divorce into the repair bill :pac:

ml100

While it's really annoying at least you don't have to deal with a third party claim all sorts of personal injuries dragging out a claim for years looking to retire on their ill-gotten gains!

Clem H Fandango

Got quoted 4700 from VW. Crazy expensive.
Since I bought it on HP, would there be any repercussion if I went to a 3rd party to get it repaired? Lose of warranty I expect?

goz83

Clem H Fandango wrote: »

Got quoted 4700 from VW. Crazy expensive.
Since I bought it on HP, would there be any repercussion if I went to a 3rd party to get it repaired? Lose of warranty I expect?

OUCH. I bought a 5 year old for a few hundred more than that a couple of days ago.

I suspect it's more of a contractual thing rather than a warranty thing, where any damage, while paying the HP must be carried out by a VW approved repairer. Check your contract. Would insurance not cover it?

Toyotafanboi

Clem H Fandango wrote: »

Got quoted 4700 from VW. Crazy expensive.
Since I bought it on HP, would there be any repercussion if I went to a 3rd party to get it repaired? Lose of warranty I expect?

You won't lose your warranty point blanc. Things like paintwork warranty and anti perforation warranty in the effected areas will be lost, similarly, if the repaired use a non genuine headlamp etc it may compromise and potential claims relating to wiring etc down the line.

The thing is is VW want that kind of price it's obviously a sizeable repair and with the car being brand new and worth €30k do you really want to skim on a potentially substandard repair?

Ultimately it won't affect your finance agreement to repair it with a 3rd party but it will devalue the car if a below standard repair is spotted at trade in time or if it's recorded online as having an insurance claim against it which could compromise your potential equity if you are on PCP.

That's not to say all non VW repairs will be poor quality by any means, but just like with mechanics, you need to be careful, for every good panel beater, there's a cowboy who will undercut them.

colm_mcm

Won't the vw dealer just farm it out and stick a nice chunk on top?

Toyotafanboi

colm_mcm wrote: »

Won't the vw dealer just farm it out and stick a nice chunk on top?

Does it actually work like that though?

Or does a body shop want €4700 retail for to do the job themselves, if a dealer gets them the work they will ask the dealer to sell the job for €4700 retail and they will sell the job to the dealer for trade price ( -10% or whatever).

So the price is the same for the consumer no matter where you go, but the dealer gets a cut if they secure the work but from the consumers point of view the car went through an approved repairer.

Just a theory :pac:

colm_mcm

I'd love to see what needs replacing.

JohnBoy26

colm_mcm wrote: »

Won't the vw dealer just farm it out and stick a nice chunk on top?

Maybe not. Some main dealers have their own bodyshop

Toyotafanboi

A wing and a headlight :P looks like it got a tasty slap though, wonder is the chassis bent a bit under the wing?

colm_mcm

Arthur's Tussik would have that done with change out of €500

Toyotafanboi

And that fella who used an elephant to turn a Lada into a Pug 206 would probably do it for less again!

DaveyDave

Christ, €4,700 to repair a bumper and a side panel on a car that's worth at its lowest trim €20k? Why is paint and labour so expensive. You can get an entire car for 20k and they're replacing a fancy sensor filled bumper and a side panel.

I know there's a lot of work because of the technology in cars these days but still, compared to the retail of the car it's just hard to believe that...

Clem H Fandango

DaveyDave wrote: »

Christ, €4,700 to repair a bumper and a side panel on a car that's worth at its lowest trim €20k? Why is paint and labour so expensive. You can get an entire car for 20k and they're replacing a fancy sensor filled bumper and a side panel.

I know there's a lot of work because of the technology in cars these days but still, compared to the retail of the car it's just hard to believe that...

Just home from another garage and got a quote for €2200! Might get 4/5 quotes and see just in case vw are trying to take me for every penny.

GB FAN GALWAY 30

Clem H Fandango wrote: »

Got quoted 4700 from VW. Crazy expensive.
Since I bought it on HP, would there be any repercussion if I went to a 3rd party to get it repaired? Lose of warranty I expect?

What way was the quote broken down? Labour, Parts, Sundries? Or was it a case of "here's the figure came up with"

Clem H Fandango

GB FAN GALWAY 30 wrote: »

What way was the quote broken down? Labour, Parts, Sundries? Or was it a case of "here's the figure came up with"

From vw, there was no breakdown at all.
From the garage I went to earlier, he said 1200 for the bumper and wing, 400 for the light, the rest for paint and labour.

JohnBoy26

Clem H Fandango wrote: »

From vw, there was no breakdown at all.
From the garage I went to earlier, he said 1200 for the bumper and wing, 400 for the light, the rest for paint and labour.

Is that garage using genuine vw parts?

Clem H Fandango

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Is that garage using genuine vw parts?

Not sure tbh.

colm_mcm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Is that garage using genuine vw parts?

They're not outrageously cheap prices though.

TFB might know this, does the city brake sensor need to be recalibrated if the bumper is swapped?

JoeA3

colm_mcm wrote: »

They're not outrageously cheap prices though.

TFB might know this, does the city brake sensor need to be recalibrated if the bumper is swapped?

I'd say almost certainly.
I had to have it calibrated (under warranty) when I needed a wheel alignment done. It's mental expensive if you have to pay for it due to the cost of the machine they need to have in the workshop to do it. Not all the main dealers have it either.

I'll say again re VW doing the work....
Dealers don't do body work. I know if I went into my local dealers they'd send me to a local body shop that they send all that kind of work to (a reputable "approved" one to be fair). So if it were my car I'd go to that body shop directly and talk to them myself. They'll still do genuine VW parts, etc as they are "approved" but I'd prefer to deal with them directly.

GB FAN GALWAY 30

Clem H Fandango wrote: »

From vw, there was no breakdown at all.
From the garage I went to earlier, he said 1200 for the bumper and wing, 400 for the light, the rest for paint and labour.

Allow VW €2000 for parts (which is far in excess imo) based on the indy quote. This allows them €2700 for labour. Base the labour on €50 per hour that gives you 54 hours work. Mechanic working 9-6 with 1.5hrs in breaks is 7.5hrs per day. Is it really going to take someone over 7 days to repair the car?

JohnBoy26

colm_mcm wrote: »

They're not outrageously cheap prices though.

TFB might know this, does the city brake sensor need to be recalibrated if the bumper is swapped?

Hence why I would aak if genuine parts are being used

JohnBoy26

JoeA3 wrote: »

I'd say almost certainly.
I had to have it calibrated (under warranty) when I needed a wheel alignment done. It's mental expensive if you have to pay for it due to the cost of the machine they need to have in the workshop to do it. Not all the main dealers have it either.

I'll say again re VW doing the work....
Dealers don't do body work. I know if I went into my local dealers they'd send me to a local body shop that they send all that kind of work to (a reputable "approved" one to be fair). So if it were my car I'd go to that body shop directly and talk to them myself. They'll still do genuine VW parts, etc as they are "approved" but I'd prefer to deal with them directly.

Some do.

Toyotafanboi

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Some do.

I agree. Lots don't but plenty do, around Dublin anyway, maybe it's more scarce down the country?

If the bumper has shifted or has to be removed you'd be putting a calibration of the radar onto an estimate anyway, it's fairly exposed on the Mk7 on the 7.5 it's in the badge I think which is better. Radar calibration would be priced around €300. The problem is they can be calibrated easily sometimes but often it can take an hour or two.

I priced parts for the fun of it.
Wing is €165
Headlamp is €195
Front bumper is €325

There must be more damage than meets the eye. Has the wing been pushed back into the door? Is there damage to the chassis under the wing? Etc etc.