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Price of Pints?

  • 16-06-2017 2:26pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭


    Hello all,

    Can anyone shed some light on why pints have gone up over the last week or so?. My local is right beside a major park in Dublin where they regularly hold concerts (longtitude etc). The price for a pint of lager has gone up to ?5.70, ?5.80 for Bulmers and its now ?5.15 for Guinness. They have stuck 20c on all pints. Pissed off tbh, nothing in the budget regarding it. Thinking of relocating.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Maybe increasing in advance of longitude. Many pubs have facebook pages, you could ask there, maybe post a picture of their 16 item price list publically so others can see too.

    What pub is it? there are plenty of threads mentioning prices of beers in pubs, it's not like its against the rules or slander, they have to have some prices publicly displayed by law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭nuckeythompson


    They hike up in advance of festival, same as a rugby match. Should they just do it on the day they get lambasted on social media


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Should they just do it on the day they get lambasted on social media
    exactly, and why they should be lambasted now, even moreso...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bmm


    Its a monopoly, with publicans complicit .


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Mankyspuds wrote: »
    Hello all,

    Can anyone shed some light on why pints have gone up over the last week or so?. My local is right beside a major park in Dublin where they regularly hold concerts (longtitude etc). The price for a pint of lager has gone up to ?5.70, ?5.80 for Bulmers and its now ?5.15 for Guinness. They have stuck 20c on all pints. Pissed off tbh, nothing in the budget regarding it. Thinking of relocating.

    You need to join the GAA club located beside the same location, cheaper pints there ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,932 ✭✭✭huskerdu


    rubadub wrote: »

    What pub is it?

    There is only one pub outside said park. Apart from that, its 20 minutes walk to the next pub.

    The Eden is a very local pub dependent on locals for trade. It's hard to believe that they have any passing trade ( apart from Longitude).

    Longitude is only 3 days and they are open for 363 days of the year. The locals probably avoid the place like the plague that weekend, so I doubt if it makes a massive difference to their annual turnover.

    Maybe they just raised the prices.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    I was in a pub in the city centre and was shocked when I got a round in and it was €6 pet pint. I was drinking Galway Hooker so I expected that to be a bit dearer, but €6 for macro lagers was clearly extracting yellow liquid of a (slightly) different sort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Mankyspuds


    huskerdu wrote: »
    There is only one pub outside said park. Apart from that, its 20 minutes walk to the next pub.

    The Eden is a very local pub dependent on locals for trade. It's hard to believe that they have any passing trade ( apart from Longitude).

    Longitude is only 3 days and they are open for 363 days of the year. The locals probably avoid the place like the plague that weekend, so I doubt if it makes a massive difference to their annual turnover.

    Maybe they just raised the prices.

    I just thought 20c on all pints was very excessive, 4% on lager & cider and 4.5% on stout. I have heard since posting that Diageo put their prices up and most pubs put their prices up 10c around rathfarnham. Maybe it was just a little greedy sticking on the extra 10c for themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,426 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    Its crazy isn't it, €5.70 for a pint of lager?

    I share the same locals as you OP and I hardly ever go into them, drinking in pubs has simply become far too expensive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Mankyspuds


    rubadub wrote: »
    Maybe increasing in advance of longitude. Many pubs have facebook pages, you could there?

    What pub is it?

    I have messaged them on FB but no reply as yet. The pub is The Eden House. If I find out its Longtitude Festival hike I'll never spend another penny in the place.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,840 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Pubs in Derry put their prices up during the fleadh a few years ago and there excuse was they needed to hire more staff because of how busy they were. The head of the local vinters actually went on the radio and said that with a straight face. :rolleyes:

    Unfortunately, they were nearly all at it so there was no way of voting with my feet afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,351 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    irish_goat wrote: »
    Pubs in Derry put their prices up during the fleadh a few years ago and there excuse was they needed to hire more staff because of how busy they were. The head of the local vinters actually went on the radio and said that with a straight face. :rolleyes:

    Unfortunately, they were nearly all at it so there was no way of voting with my feet afterwards.

    Surely the extra booze they sold would have covered the cost of the extra staff? Did they lower the prices back to their previous level afterwards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Zaph wrote: »
    Surely the extra booze they sold would have covered the cost of the extra staff?

    That was goats point, talking pure sh?te.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 5,840 Mod ✭✭✭✭irish_goat


    Yeah, they were absolutely bunged that whole week and made a killing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,181 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I've noticed increases basically across the board in Dublin in the past 6-8 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,639 ✭✭✭andekwarhola


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Mankyspuds wrote: »
    I have messaged them on FB but no reply as yet. The pub is The Eden House. If I find out its Longtitude Festival hike I'll never spend another penny in the place.
    A private message will possibly be ignored (if it was private). They have posts up themselves and you can reply to them, this could lead to more people asking the same thing, and lots of "likes" in support of your comments/question, harder to ignore, or if ignored it can be presumed what they would answer if truthful.
    irish_goat wrote: »
    Pubs in Derry put their prices up during the fleadh a few years ago and there excuse was they needed to hire more staff because of how busy they were. The head of the local vinters actually went on the radio and said that with a straight face. :rolleyes:
    If they were honest about it I would have far less issue. They are maximising profits, its the idea of them jacking up the price in advance to avoid it looking like a rise to cash in which would bother me a lot. Hotels will jack up the price if a big gig is happening in any city, you do not hear of them jacking it up weeks in advance so it will not be reported in the media.

    As someone else asked, I wonder if eden house have ever reduced the price afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    Pubs are a rip although only a few months ago I got a pint of Guinness for 4 euro in a pub in Sneem in Kerry. Great pint too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Pubs are a rip although only a few months ago I got a pint of Guinness for 4 euro in a pub in Sneem in Kerry. Great pint too.

    4 euro in most of Dundalk too and lovely pints of frothy Tuberg for 3.50.
    Dublin is a complete rip off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭CeilingFly


    Pubs are a rip although only a few months ago I got a pint of Guinness for 4 euro in a pub in Sneem in Kerry. Great pint too.

    Rural pubs don't have the same costs - my local went to €4.10 a couple of weeks ago

    They don't have union pay rates to pay, they don't require door security, they don't require late licences and the extra pay for working after 12.

    Usually the owner is behind the bar and it never needed a 500k refit - a lick of paint is considered a "renovation"


    You get some pubs like that in Dublin, but people prefer the fancy pubs. In Rathfarnham you used to have the Tuning Fork - lovely traditional pub, decent prices, almost always empty.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,231 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Digeao did put up their prices last week, but by about 4c a pint. 10 cent would be enough to keep the margins for the publicans but most are going 15 or 20 while they have the opportunity to pass the blame.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,181 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Digeao did put up their prices last week, but by about 4c a pint. 10 cent would be enough to keep the margins for the publicans but most are going 15 or 20 while they have the opportunity to pass the blame.

    Was before that that I noticed the ramping; however I'm now prepped to expect more.

    Change out of a tenner for two macro lagers is becoming extremely rare even in the areas that you'd expect to be cheaper than the city centre. Change out of 12 for the same in the city centre is dwindling!

    Bar - not lounge - prices in a cheaper pub in Maynooth broke 4.50 for the first time since the boom recently too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,893 ✭✭✭allthedoyles


    ?4.40 for a Guinness in my local , but what I do notice lately is that the can of Guinness is not filling my pint glass to the full like it used to.

    You can still buy 4 cans Guinness for ?7.50 , but it seems to me that the amount of liquid has been reduced . This could have been decided instead of increasing the cost per can .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,231 ✭✭✭✭thesandeman


    Doubt it. Unless you got cans that are meant for the UK market which may be 440ml instead of 500.
    More likely your last ones were less gassy so the head would be smaller.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,820 ✭✭✭FanadMan


    It's the same gouging with hotel prices. Book a room anywhere in Dublin when there is no concerts/sports/other events on and you'll get it cheap. Some big act or game on - prices treble or quadruple. But just think of the money Dublin would have made if the Gareth Brooks concerts went ahead!!

    My local (middle of nowhere in Donegal): Pints - €3.80 (Carling is €3.20)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Blut2


    I hate that even Guinness is well over 5eur in most places in the city these days. Means you have to pay with a 20eur note if you want to get two pints, and usually just get back a heap of change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,036 ✭✭✭✭Geuze


    Blut2 wrote: »
    I hate that even Guinness is well over 5eur in most places in the city these days. Means you have to pay with a 20eur note if you want to get two pints, and usually just get back a heap of change.

    Glimmerman and Kavanaghs on Manor street are 4.20 approx.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,258 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    ?4.40 for a Guinness in my local , but what I do notice lately is that the can of Guinness is not filling my pint glass to the full like it used to.

    You can still buy 4 cans Guinness for ?7.50 , but it seems to me that the amount of liquid has been reduced . This could have been decided instead of increasing the cost per can .

    That's physics for you. A pint is 568ml whereas a can of stout is just 500ml.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,881 ✭✭✭jeffk


    Herself brothers a barman,saying there is 20c extra gone on each pint

    Three of us drinking in the house the other night,give or take two twenty boxes of Coors light.
    46 euro(centra and SuperValu,saying usually cheaper) compared to 200 in a pub

    Its no wonder people drink at home.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Do prices still go up after a certain time now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,150 ✭✭✭Passenger


    Ipso wrote: »
    Do prices still go up after a certain time now?

    Depends where you're drinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,057 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    jeffk wrote: »
    Herself brothers a barman,saying there is 20c extra gone on each pint

    Three of us drinking in the house the other night,give or take two twenty boxes of Coors light.
    46 euro(centra and SuperValu,saying usually cheaper) compared to 200 in a pub

    Its no wonder people drink at home.

    It's a lot cheaper to drink at home but there's no craic or atmosphere. You can't beat the pub when it's buzzing.
    I might have a few in the house from time to time and go to the pub for the last few.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,881 ✭✭✭jeffk


    It's a lot cheaper to drink at home but there's no craic or atmosphere. You can't beat the pub when it's buzzing.
    I might have a few in the house from time to time and go to the pub for the last few.

    Fair few of us after a BBQ out the back had a great laugh, stick spotify on to a speaker and you're away.

    No dresscode, taxis, bouncers, keep the noise down, ****e music from band and/or dj, roaring at each other. Sometimes nice to sit in shorts etc, cheap drink, pick your own music and have the laugh

    Id do predrinking myself, sure youd want to with the prices.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,029 ✭✭✭um7y1h83ge06nx


    I do like the pub myself every so often. I like popping into my closest urban area, Limerick, to see a bit of life, change from the countryside! :-)

    However I had a great setup here this weekend. Big backyard and garden with the BBQ and garden furniture out. Lots of food and a few nice beers.

    And don't forget home brewing. If you do it right you can make great beers for about 40 to 50 cent max per 500ml. I love making IPAs so craft beer on the cheap!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭Dave147


    Diageo and Heineken Ireland put prices up in last few weeks so I imagine it's something to do with that and keeping the same margins.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    It's a lot cheaper to drink at home but there's no craic or atmosphere. You can't beat the pub when it's buzzing.
    I might have a few in the house from time to time and go to the pub for the last few.

    very often the home, with a few around, is more buzzing than the now dead local though. 20+ years ago, esp. if you were ~20 back then, people did not have sky sports or the big telly.

    People usually focus on about the big savings, I am now wondering about comparing the experience at the exact same price, i.e. instead of a bowl of sausages, chips & goujons its rib eye steaks on a BBQ, or takeaway from a better than average place or restaurant. Instead of a pint of mainstream muck its stuff you would usually not fork out for -in the longer run a top of the range 4K tv rather than the powercity cheapo special the local think is good enough...
    Dave147 wrote: »
    Diageo and Heineken Ireland put prices up in last few weeks so I imagine it's something to do with that and keeping the same margins.
    problem is many insist on sticking to the same margins, instead of the same profits, so they come up with stupid prices, lose many customers but can retain the same profits, and so the books make it look like its all the same, with a handful of people still paying ridiculous prices. While eventually the lack of people can lead to a drop in punters as the atmosphere does change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Blut2


    When its roughly 6eur a pint vs 1.50eur a pint can for macro beers its just far too big a difference to justify regularly drinking in a pub for a full night, regardless of income. I think in previous decades the price difference was smaller, and/or there was more of an atmosphere difference in pubs vs houses as mentioned above.

    Diageo/the publicans are only shooting themselves in the foot by keeping prices so high. Whole generations are learning to exist with only ever drinking in houses or nightclubs.

    If Wetherspoons can make a profit on 2.50eur pints, and Diceys on 2eur pints, surely it proves theres a viable niche in the market for pubs that charge less than the usual margin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,181 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Reasonably priced pub in Maynooth is now charging 6.50 for a Peroni. Didn't think the "premium lager" category existed as such here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,295 ✭✭✭n97 mini


    L1011 wrote: »
    Reasonably priced pub in Maynooth is now charging 6.50 for a Peroni. Didn't think the "premium lager" category existed as such here!

    It's been "premium" for a while. Restaurants in Leixlip charging 6 euro for a 330ml bottle 5 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,386 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    n97 mini wrote: »
    Restaurants in Leixlip charging 6 euro for a 330ml bottle 5 years ago.
    Jaysus its 3.30 in wetherspoons blackrock, or at least was a few months ago, and that was not a special, it was actually a poor choice relative to the other beers there in bigger bottles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 71,181 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    n97 mini wrote: »
    It's been "premium" for a while. Restaurants in Leixlip charging 6 euro for a 330ml bottle 5 years ago.

    Restaurants always charge insane prices for it - 9 for a 660 isn't uncommon. Never had more than a 50c premium over other macros at the tap the few places I've bought it before. Only noticed when a three person round it was in gave me a few small coins from a 20!


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