Free mobile roaming in EU and beyond

bk

Given the new rules on free roaming in the EU coming into effect this week, I thought I'd start a thread to highlight this and give some examples of what is available from various mobile companies in Ireland.

First thing to understand, while you have the same number of call minutes and texts as included in your plan at home, the same isn't true for data.

The mobile companies can offer you less data then you have at home. I highlight the differences between different plans below and I hope people start including this when considering their mobile carrier, which will hopefully force these companies to be more competitive in this area.

For those travelling outside the EU, for example US, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Brazil, etc. Then the Three UK SIM offers fantastic value for money. They give you 12GB of data, valid for 12 months in the above and 65 other countries.

http://www.three.co.uk/feel-at-home

You can buy this three UK SIM from the following, NOTE you will need an unlocked phone for this to work.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mobile-Pay-Trio-Data-Preloaded/dp/B01CMD4VKC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497549203&sr=8-1&keywords=three+uk+12gb

Now turning attention back to EU roaming. I'd like to highlight some heros and some dodgy companies.

Vodafone are offering the exact same amount of data as you have at home, making it easy to figure out and use.

Lyca mobile on the other hand according to their website say they won't be offering roaming on the data plans which I believe is against the EU rules!

ID mobile likewise seem to be offering EU roaming on only one of their plans and not on their other plans, which I believe is also against EU rules on this matter.

The following is a table of various plans from different carriers and how much data, etc. is included. This table of course doesn't include all plans, for instance it is mostly prepay and sim only plans, but it highlights what I'd consider some of the best plans from each company is and to give folks a feeling for what is available. Errors and omissions expected, so always double check with the company.

Carrier|Plan|Cost|Ireland + EU Texts|Ireland + EU Calls|Ireland Data|EU Data|Notes
Vodafone|Extra|€30|Unlimited|Unlimited|5GB|5GB|https://n.vodafone.ie/roaming.html
Vodafone|X|€20|Unlmited|100 minutes|20GB|20GB|
Meteor |Prepay|€20|Unlimited|Unlimited|15GB|6.3GB|https://www.meteor.ie/roaming/#/
Three|AYCE|€20|Unlimited|-|Unlimited (FUP)|5GB|http://www.three.ie/roaming/ https://apps.three.ie/roaming/pages/eu-roaming
Tesco Mobile|Simply Value|€15|Unlimited|Unlimited (10000 Minutes FUP)|10GB|3.17GB|http://www.tescomobile.ie/prepayroam Texts not included but you keep the €15 credit and can buy unlimited text add-on for €10
Virgin Mobile|Unlimited|€25|Unlimited (10000 FUP)|Unlimited (10000 FUP)|Unlimited (FUP)|5.5GB|https://www.virginmedia.ie/roaming/
ID Mobile|Prepay|€15|-|300 minutes|30GB|3.3GB|https://www.idmobile.ie/roaming-charges
ID Mobile|SIM Only|€29|10000|10000|30GB|6.3GB|
Postmobile|Prepaid|€30|300|300|10GB|10GB|https://postmobile.ie/rlh/
48Months|The Guido|€10|Unlimited|300|1GB|1GB|
Eir|Prepay|€30|350|350|1GB|1GB|https://www.eir.ie/roaming/#/
Eir|Billpay|€45|Unlimited|Unlimited|15GB|6.3GB|Contract and for existing Eir customers only
Lycamobile| - | - | - | - | - | - | Don't offer EU roaming!!!


FAQ's

Q: Can I use this for watching videos (youtube, netflix, facebook videos), video calling (Skype) or uploading pictures and viewing them (facebook, instragram, snapchat, google photos)?

You can, but I don't recommend it. All of the above use large amounts of data (e.g. Netflix is about 1GB per hour) and you are likely run through the above free amounts quickly and you will then be charged high per MB charges beyond the cap and possible end up with a big bill!

Best to leave these until you get home or use the hotel wifi. Instead I would use this just for light data services, like whatsapp (voice, not video or pictures), Google Maps, email, light browsing, etc.

You can also use your phones in-built ability to monitor and limit data use.

Q: If abroad (e.g. Spain), can I use this to call text/Ireland for free.

A: Yes, when on holidays in Spain, etc. calls/texts back to Ireland or in fact any EU country, will come out of your normal domestic allowance. So for instance, if you have unlimited calls in Ireland. Then you can call a phone in France for free when in Spain.

Q: Can I call/text another EU country (for instance Germany) when in Ireland so?

A: No, you aren't roaming in this case and so it isn't covered under this legislation. Instead you will be charged for an international call/text per your mobile companies rates.

Q: Could I buy a SIM from a cheaper country (e.g. Spain) and use it here.

A: You could, but it isn't likely to last long, the mobile carriers are allowed to contact you and potentially cut off your service if they see you using the service for long periods of time outside of the home country. Also you would end up having a Spanish number, which would then be an expensive international call for family and friends in Ireland to call/text you on. So overall this isn't a good idea for any sort of long term use.

Q: My plan includes free calls and texts to phones on the same network (e.g. Meteor to Meteor), can I use these for free while roaming?

A: No, such, on-network calls and texts aren't included in this legislation, though some companies might opt to include it (e.g. Vodafone), most aren't including them, so check with your carrier.

Interesting guide here to how the minimum allowed free data rates are calculated:
https://www.bonkers.ie/blog/broadband-phone/roam-like-at-home-how-to-calculate-your-data-roaming-limit/

More info here:
http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/European_Union

Suckit

Thanks for that, great list and table.

So Vodafone X would be best as the 2nd sim in a dual sim phone?
I wonder if the reason Lycamobile do not offer roaming is because they do not own their network? They piggyback on different networks around Europe.
This is a UK list that i have been looking at for the past few days on and off, to get a sim to bring travelling.
Along with Three Feel at Home, EE look very good too.
https://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/guides/best-network-for-international-roaming/

Absoluvely

With free EU roaming, why stick with an Irish network provider?

There must be some European network that's cheaper to use within Ireland than the Irish networks.

dan185

Absoluvely wrote: »

With free EU roaming, why stick with an Irish network provider?

There must be some European network that's cheaper to use within Ireland than the Irish networks.

If you were using a Spanish SIM to call Irish numbers it would still be a premium rate. Spanish to Spanish would be roam like home.

Quackster

Two things to note.

Roam like at home doesn't extend to on-net call and text rates (although Vodafone has done so).

So if you have, say, free Meteor-to-Meteor calls/texts, you won't have that when roaming.

Also, operators can choose not to allow roaming on individual plans. So if this is what Lyca is doing, that's perfectly legal.

dodzy

Absoluvely wrote: »

With free EU roaming, why stick with an Irish network provider?

There must be some European network that's cheaper to use within Ireland than the Irish networks.

But that would come with a 00bla bla xxxxxxxxxx number with potential implications for local landlines among others. No thanks . I'll leave well enough alone and use my VF 5gb while on hols. That'll do me just fine

Quackster

dan185 wrote: »

If you were using a Spanish SIM to call Irish numbers it would still be a premium rate. Spanish to Spanish would be roam like home.

That's incorrect. When roaming in any EEA country, you can call any standard mobile or landline number back home, in the country you're in or any other EEA country at domestic rates.

Quackster

Absoluvely wrote: »

With free EU roaming, why stick with an Irish network provider?

There must be some European network that's cheaper to use within Ireland than the Irish networks.

Operators have a right to cut you off if you're only using your SIM roaming and not at home over a period of time (as little as a month).

Suckit

Gosim, Onesim, Eurail, iRoam etc.. and all of the other sims that offer roaming, are a complete rip-off. How do they even exist.
These links may also be handy for information.
http://prepaid-data-sim-card.wikia.com/wiki/European_Union2
http://kenstechtips.com/index.php/best-sim-cards-for-using-smartphone-in-europe
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/cheap-roaming-calls

They are UK mainly, but still very helpful.

TheDriver

Great post. Remember the meteor 20euro is 4.2Gb whereas the 30 euro plan which u can get for 20 with right procedure is 6.3Gb

brendan86

Sorry to hijack this post guys but I currently have the 30 day sim plan with 3, unlimited calls/texts EU.. Does that mean I can ring English numbers free from here in ireland? Or does it mean if I'm in England I can ring Irish numbers free?

Hugo_Whoriskey

TheDriver wrote:

the 30 euro plan which u can get for 20 with right procedure is 6.3Gb

Do tell...

TheDriver

You either switch from another provider or if a customer, text 20unlimited etc. Its all on a thread here somewhere

BoatMad

Quackster wrote: »

Operators have a right to cut you off if you're only using your SIM roaming and not at home over a period of time (as little as a month).

The general rule is that as long as you spend more time at home than abroad, or you use your mobile phone more at home than abroad, you can roam at domestic prices when travelling wherever in the EU. This is considered a fair use of roaming services.

If this is not the case, your mobile operator may contact you. Operators can detect possible abuses based on the balance of roaming and domestic activity over a fourmonth period: if you spend a majority of your time abroad and consume more abroad than at home over the four months, the operator can ask you to clarify the situation within 14 days.

If you continue roaming more than you are at home, your operator may start applying a small charge to your roaming consumption. This will be capped at 3.2 cents per minute of voice call and 1 cent per SMS. For data, the maximum surcharge will be €7.7 per GB (as of 15 June 2017), falling to €6 per GB (as of 1 January 2018), €4.5 per GB (as of 1 January 2019), €3.5 per GB (as of 1 January 2020), €3 per GB (as of 1 January 2021) and finally €2.5 per GB (as of 1 January 2022).

Kristopherus

Quackster wrote: »

Also, operators can choose not to allow roaming on individual plans. So if this is what Lyca is doing, that's perfectly legal.

What Lyca are doing is announcing on their website that the bundles you buy are for use in Ireland only. This is a reversal of their previous plan which did allow free roaming in Europe. Now what they are doing is charging you payg rates for every call, text and mb of data that you use roaming in EEA. Totally illegal imo.

https://www.lycamobile.ie/en/roaming-within-the-european-union-is-changing

mikeecho

Tesco mobile

http://www.tescomobile.ie/eu-roaming-regulation


How are Tesco Mobile’s fair usage policies for EU data roaming calculated?
Tesco Mobile adheres to The EU Commissions guidelines on fair usage policies for EU data roaming.The EU Commission guidelines state that the following formula should be used to calculate fair usage policies for large data bundled offers:

Monthly plan value (service component excluding VAT) / 7.7 * 2 = Fair usage amount

dodzy

brendan86 wrote: »

Sorry to hijack this post guys but I currently have the 30 day sim plan with 3, unlimited calls/texts EU.. Does that mean I can ring English numbers free from here in ireland? Or does it mean if I'm in England I can ring Irish numbers free?

The latter.

Please excuse my ignorance but I just want to clarify this for myself.

Here in Ireland, I'm on prepay and I purchase a Vodafone Red bundle every 4 weeks for €30. Giving me unlimited calls/texts to any Irish mobile and 5g of data.

Can I just use my phone abroad without doing anything or do I need to purchase a new sim before travelling?

Wanderer78

I suspect they'll just increase charges elsewhere but at least it 'll save people a few quid while roaming

dodzy

TheTorment wrote: »

Please excuse my ignorance but I just want to clarify this for myself.

Here in Ireland, I'm on prepay and I purchase a Vodafone Red bundle every 4 weeks for ?30. Giving me unlimited calls/texts to any Irish mobile and 5g of data.

Can I just use my phone abroad without doing anything or do I need to purchase a new sim before travelling?

no new SIM needed. Use it abroad as you like. Once you arrive in your destination, the SIM will acquire a local network and you're good to go. Obviously keep an eye on your data usage if away for a long period. And stay away from streaming video content as this will chew up your 5gb allowance.

grogi

dan185 wrote: »

If you were using a Spanish SIM to call Irish numbers it would still be a premium rate. Spanish to Spanish would be roam like home.

Still cheaper than any out of bundle Irish rates...

The-Rafalution

I'm travelling to Vietnam and Thailand soon. Currently on Vodafone payg but have a dual sim phone. Can anyone recommend the best provider and deal for data when travelling to such countries? Thanks

ellobee

bk wrote: »

Given the new rules on free roaming in the EU coming into effect this week, I thought I'd start a thread to highlight this and give some examples of what is available from various mobile companies in Ireland.

First thing to understand, while you have the same number of call minutes and texts as included in your plan at home, the same isn't true for data.

The mobile companies can offer you less data then you have at home. I highlight the differences between different plans below and I hope people start including this when considering their mobile carrier, which will hopefully force these companies to be more competitive in this area.

For those travelling outside the EU, for example US, Australia, New Zealand, Hong Kong, Brazil, etc. Then the Three UK SIM offers fantastic value for money. They give you 12GB of data, valid for 12 months in the above and 65 other countries.

http://www.three.co.uk/feel-at-home

You can buy this three UK SIM from the following, NOTE you will need an unlocked phone for this to work.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mobile-Pay-Trio-Data-Preloaded/dp/B01CMD4VKC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1497549203&sr=8-1&keywords=three+uk+12gb

Now turning attention back to EU roaming. I'd like to highlight some heros and some dodgy companies.

Vodafone are offering the exact same amount of data as you have at home, making it easy to figure out and use.

Lyca mobile on the other hand according to their website say they won't be offering roaming on the data plans which I believe is against the EU rules!

ID mobile likewise seem to be offering EU roaming on only one of their plans and not on their other plans, which I believe is also against EU rules on this matter.

There is an opt out clause for operators, if the cost of offering the "Roam like Home"option knocks 3% or more of a companys margin then they can introduce roaming fees.

yoshimitsu

The-Rafalution wrote: »

I'm travelling to Vietnam and Thailand soon. Currently on Vodafone payg but have a dual sim phone. Can anyone recommend the best provider and deal for data when travelling to such countries? Thanks

Get a local SIM or you'll pay a fortune.
We're talking about intra-EU roaming on this thread

Mint Sauce

brendan86 wrote: »

Sorry to hijack this post guys but I currently have the 30 day sim plan with 3, unlimited calls/texts EU.. Does that mean I can ring English numbers free from here in ireland? Or does it mean if I'm in England I can ring Irish numbers free?

My understanding is the plan works like you are at home.

Example, my Vodafone plan is unlimited calls and texts to irish numbers, and 100 international minutes and texts. So say I am on holiday in the UK, calls and texts back to an Irish landline or mobile comes out of my unlimited, calls and texts to UK numbers still come out of my international plan.

yoshimitsu

Posting the actual EC directive here (which surprisingly is written in plain English rather than the typical "legalese" lexicon they use in Brussels): https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/policies/roaming
"As long as a person periodically travels and spends more time in his home country than abroad over any 4-month period, they will fully benefit from Roam Like at Home" this is a bit more precise than what was discussed above.

Also keep in mind that most proper operators (MNOs own and operate their network [e.g. Vodafone, Three, etc] vs MVNOs who rent capacity and resell it [e.g. Tesco, Virgin etc]) will offer a roaming service because the cost they incur when their customers travel abroad (e.g. Three Ireland will pay something to Telefonica Spain while you are using their network in Benidorm) is somewhat offset when foreigners come here and are roaming on their network (Telefonica will pay Three Ireland while Spaniards are here learning English, for example). The same is not true for MVNOs who only see the cost when their customers are abroad but dont get any benefits when foreigners visit their country.
So it is perfectly legitimate for an MVNO to NOT offer any roaming at all. The EC is allowing a few smaller operators to charge a small premium but in no way are you forced to offer roaming. It's up to your customers to decide whether they value that enough to move to another carrier that offers it or if they're happy with the domestic-only service.

bromley52

Some people could probably do without data during a holiday. Put down the device, talk to people or pick up a book. Most restaurants have wifi if you need a quick fix.

dodzy

bromley52 wrote: »

Some people could probably do without data during a holiday. Put down the device, talk to people or pick up a book. Most restaurants have wifi if you need a quick fix.

No, I want to use my data, whenever & wherever I wish, and not be restricted. You're on the wrong thread.

grogi

bromley52 wrote: »

Some people could probably do without data during a holiday. Put down the device, talk to people or pick up a book. Most restaurants have wifi if you need a quick fix.

I want my data to:
- check reviews of restaurants
- get opening hours and contact numbers
- verify if they have WiFi
- make reservation online
- get driving directions and parking information
- check if my card is charged accordingly when paying for the parking and food

So I would prefer to have data allowance I really can do without facebook or boards...

keano25

bromley52 wrote: »

Some people could probably do without data during a holiday. Put down the device, talk to people or pick up a book. Most restaurants have wifi if you need a quick fix.

I'd rather have the data at hand, have you ever tried to navigate your way around a city for the first time with a map and address?

Compared against a phone with Google maps there is no comparison.

The-Rafalution

bromley52 wrote: »

Some people could probably do without data during a holiday. Put down the device, talk to people or pick up a book. Most restaurants have wifi if you need a quick fix.

Depends on what kind of travelling you are doing. Personally, I find having data very handy for maps if you get lost, bus/train transport times on the fly or a quick look at TripAdvisor if you are not in a familiar area.

ellobee

The-Rafalution wrote: »

Depends on what kind of travelling you are doing. Personally, I find having data very handy for maps if you get lost, bus/train transport times on the fly or a quick look at TripAdvisor if you are not in a familiar area.

Or if you have moody teenagers with you, data is a godsend although I dont know whether I would trust them to stay within the limits of their plan. I usually rent a mifi device with unlimited data.

Quackster

BoatMad wrote: »

The general rule is that as long as you spend more time at home than abroad, or you use your mobile phone more at home than abroad, you can roam at domestic prices when travelling wherever in the EU. This is considered a fair use of roaming services.

If this is not the case, your mobile operator may contact you. Operators can detect possible abuses based on the balance of roaming and domestic activity over a fourmonth period: if you spend a majority of your time abroad and consume more abroad than at home over the four months, the operator can ask you to clarify the situation within 14 days.

If you continue roaming more than you are at home, your operator may start applying a small charge to your roaming consumption. This will be capped at 3.2 cents per minute of voice call and 1 cent per SMS. For data, the maximum surcharge will be €7.7 per GB (as of 15 June 2017), falling to €6 per GB (as of 1 January 2018), €4.5 per GB (as of 1 January 2019), €3.5 per GB (as of 1 January 2020), €3 per GB (as of 1 January 2021) and finally €2.5 per GB (as of 1 January 2022).

Yep, that is the general rule but each operator has their own policy in place with regards to how much roaming you're allowed to do.

For instance, in the case of Vodafone PAYG:

In circumstances where there is no usage in Ireland following activation and/or there is only roaming usage in more than one calendar month, Vodafone reserves the right to deactivate the SIM card without further notice and the customer shall forfeit all credit on the account in such circumstances.

If someone intends to use any provider for roaming only over an extended period (more than one month) it's imperative they check the terms & conditions that apply to such use.

Quackster

Kristopherus wrote: »

What Lyca are doing is announcing on their website thast the bundles you buy are for use in Ireland only. This is a reversal of their previous plan which did allow free roaming in Europe. No what they are doing if charging you payg rates for every call, text and mb of data that you use roaming in EEA. Totally illegal imo.

If they allow you to roam in the EEA but charge you extra for the privilege, then that is illegal.

Quackster

Mint Sauce wrote: »

My understanding is the plan works like you are at home.

Example, my Vodafone plan is unlimited calls and texts to irish numbers, and 100 international minutes and texts. So say I am on holiday in the UK, calls and texts back to an Irish landline or mobile comes out of my unlimited, calls and texts to UK numbers still come out of my international plan.

That's not quite accurate.

If you're roaming in the UK, then yeah, calls/texts back home come out of your domestic allowances. But calls/texts to UK numbers also come out of your domestic allowances too.

And on top of all that, while roaming in the UK, calls/texts to any other EEA country also come out of your domestic allowances.

Your international minutes are only used for international calls made from the ROI.

bromley52

Quackster wrote: »

That's not quite accurate.

If you're roaming in the UK, then yeah, calls/texts back home come out of your domestic allowances. But calls/texts to UK numbers also come out of your domestic allowances too.

And on top of all that, while roaming in the UK, calls/texts to any other EEA country also come out of your domestic allowances.

Your international minutes are only used for international calls made from the ROI.

I'm on Meteor pay as you go. While roaming any calls made to EU mobiles come out of your minutes but all calls to EU landlines are charged per min.

bk

Suckit wrote: »

I wonder if the reason Lycamobile do not offer roaming is because they do not own their network? They piggyback on different networks around Europe.

It is the same for Virgin, ID, Tesco Mobile, Post Mobile, they all are also MVNO's and don't have their own network, yet they are still following the rules.

bk

Added some FAQ's to the first post based on peoples questions so far.

grogi

Mr.S wrote: »

because you won't be able to roam 365 days of the year.

With prepay prices being so low in Ireland (and our high data limits) you aren't going to save that much anyway!

The best joke of the day...

Masala

Thanks BK.....have you any update on Eir for your earlier Table??

bk

grogi wrote: »

The best joke of the day...

In fairness prices have dropped a lot and you get far more for your money now then in the past.

I'm currently with Lyca (might move from them now due to lack of EU roaming), but I'm currently paying just €7.50 a month for unlimited calls, texts and 10 to 30GB of data!

That is almost nothing, I couldn't imagine it any cheaper. Even the average of €20 for the plans above is pretty decent. Competition in the market is really heating up.

ellobee

bk wrote: »

It is the same for Virgin, ID, Tesco Mobile, Post Mobile, they all are also MVNO's and don't have their own network, yet they are still following the rules.

https://www.telecompaper.com/commentary/roam-like-home-not-so-simple-as-hoped--1199647

bk

Masala wrote: »

Thanks BK.....have you any update on Eir for your earlier Table??

Ah, I totally forgot about Eir! I've added two examples, looks like terrible value for money, not sure why anyone would pick it over Meteor (same company!).

grogi

Mr.S wrote: »

Ok link me a foreign SIM for less then €15/20 pm for unlimited everything.

I was never interested in unlimited usage of everything, that is just marketing gimmick (there are fair policies limitations).

Nevertheless, here an offer with almost unlimited calls and data:

http://www.orange.pl/kid,4002009309,id,4003784086,article.html

Top-up for 100 PLN (€23) and get 50GB of data (valid for 5 months) and keep your topup. Spent it on 3 x unlimited calls packages (30 PLN = €7), each valid a month. Alternatively topup for 200 PLN (€46) and get 1410GB data for 5 months, and spent your topup on 6 unlimited calls packages. Then you could add some data for the sixth month with the remainder 20 PLN of the topup.

Effectively you're paying €46 each 6 months (~€7.5/month) and have unlimited calls and data.

But I must agree - I hoped to find much more attractive offers in Germany and UK. But did not look too long.

bk

ellobee wrote: »

https://www.telecompaper.com/commentary/roam-like-home-not-so-simple-as-hoped--1199647

Ah, very insightful link, thanks.

I assume this is how Lyca are getting away with not offering free roaming.

The opt-out. The EU regulation allows for an opt-out if operators can prove to their national regulator they will lose money on RLH. This means they can continue to apply regulated surcharges for roaming, on top of the domestic price. This option was adopted notably by the Finish operators Elisa and DNA, a move not so surprising when we see that Finland has the lowest domestic cost per GB. Others receiving an opt-out include all the operators in Lithuania and Estonia, O2 Slovakia and Voo in Belgium.

However given that every other company is offering at least something, I don't think they will be able to maintain this. They are likely to lose customers in large numbers.

bk

grogi wrote: »

http://www.orange.pl/kid,4002009309,id,4003784086,article.html

Top-up for 100 PLN (€23) and get 50GB of data (valid for 5 months) and keep your topup. Spent it on 3 x unlimited calls packages (30 PLN = €7), each valid a month. Alternatively topup for 200 PLN (€46) and get 1410GB data for 5 months.

That isn't impressive. €7.50 per month will get you unlimited calls, texts and 10 to 30GB of data from Lyca here.

And you have to take into account that people in Poland earn WAY less then people here.

Overall, things are pretty decent and competitive here from what I can see.

grogi

bk wrote: »

Overall, things are pretty decent and competitive here from what I can see.

Absolutely. when we are into comparing the purchasing power to prepay costs - sure, in Ireland we are the winners
I have to admit that - my previous statement was exaggerated.

Personally it costs me only some Tesco coupons to run my mobile. But their 3G coverage gets worse and worse every day

cormie

bk wrote: »

Ah, I totally forgot about Eir! I've added two examples, looks like terrible value for money, not sure why anyone would pick it over Meteor (same company!).

Eir Business Sim Only is pretty good, but you need a registered business to sign up for it.

It used to be ?20 per month with 15GB data and unlimited calls and texts to Ireland AND UK, but I think it's going up to ?25 per month with 20GB data, prices EX VAT.

https://business.eir.ie/product/sim-only-plan/




I notice it says all operators in Lithuania opted out? So nobody in Lithuania offers the roaming deals? How is that allowed I wonder? Perhaps the operators got together to agree on it for some reason.

grogi

bk wrote: »

That isn't impressive. €7.50 per month will get you unlimited calls, texts and 10 to 30GB of data from Lyca here.

Where can I see this deal?

bk

grogi wrote: »

Where can I see this deal?

It is really a trick, making use of two deals averaged over two months:

Month 1: Top-up by €15 and Get
- 10GB data
- Unlimited calls
- 10% bonus credit
- keep the €15 credit

Month 2: Use the €15 credit from the previous month to the Ireland Plus bundle which gives you:
- 30GB data
- Unlimited calls
- Unlimited texts

Month 3, repeat month 1.

So not quiet straight forward, but works easily enough if you set a reminder on your phone. You effectively end up paying €7.50 per month

Note they don't offer the free EU roaming, so keep that in mind. And also they are on the same network as Tesco Mobile and like them are 3G only too.

bk

Looking at Lyca in the UK and other EU countries. They all have exactly the same page about EU Roaming. I suspect it is just a holding page, until they figure out what to do, hopefully.