Have you seen a crossdressing male who looked 'good'?

jeanjolie

It's a bit of an emotionally charged debate in this new gender liberation movement but I suppose it's good for AH.

Generally in the West, women can't crossdress (used to with jeans) compared to men or at least not to any obvious degree. You're probably thinking of a man in a dress/skirt and/or high heels which you've never seen on the streets of Dublin.

But even then, I don't think I've seen a man who was a bit 'feminine' in his dressing style. It all seems to be very overt and extreme like drag.

The reason I brought this up was because I went through my old classmates Facebook profile and saw him dressed in light blue skinny jeans, ugg boots, and earrings. Now I have no problem with men being as feminine as they want, hell I'd even date both genders of varying heights and spectrums of gender expression. Open to LGBT,

The point is although I didn't have a problem with him looking feminine he....didn't look good tbh. Not because he looked 'gay' or they were not fitting well but..I can't really explain it. That's the thing I get with a lot of cross-dressing men. They just look a bit out of place. Do you agree?

dar100

Put your high heels on there boss and il give you my opinion

_Brian

Their just being themselves.

They're hardly any more out of place than any poorly dressed man, probably myself included a large proportion of the time.

When I was younger it took me back a bit to see a cross dressed man, I just wasn't used to things outside the Irish "norm". Honestly I couldn't give a rats ass now, whatever yer happy with, I judge people on many things, but how they look isn't one.

gumbo1

I used to work security in the George about 15 years ago. Sunday night was bingo night hosted by Mr Pussy which drew a rather large crowd of cross dressers. Well, there was a few times where I was almost fooled into thinking that I was looking at a very good looking woman only to notice the auld Adams apple.

Widdershins

The odd one, in online articles or somewhere like that. The two transgender people I've met in reality obviously started out cross dressing. Both went for very frumpy, conservative middle-age style outfits. Baggy cardigans, tent dresses, flat t-bar Clarks shoes and tan tights.

greencap

jeanjolie wrote: »

It's a bit of an emotionally charged debate in this new gender liberation movement but I suppose it's good for AH.

Generally in the West, women can't crossdress (used to with jeans) compared to men or at least not to any obvious degree. You're probably thinking of a man in a dress/skirt and/or high heels which you've never seen on the streets of Dublin.

But even then, I don't think I've seen a man who was a bit 'feminine' in his dressing style. It all seems to be very overt and extreme like drag.

The reason I brought this up was because I went through my old classmates Facebook profile and saw him dressed in light blue skinny jeans, ugg boots, and earrings. Now I have no problem with men being as feminine as they want, hell I'd even date both genders of varying heights and spectrums of gender expression. Open to LGBT,

The point is although I didn't have a problem with him looking feminine he....didn't look good tbh. Not because he looked 'gay' or they were not fitting well but..I can't really explain it. That's the thing I get with a lot of cross-dressing men. They just look a bit out of place. Do you agree?

Well now that you say that if you can, but not at once, anyway going back to the point, of whatever you were asking, its not everything but I was once in Dublin and that said, I met a friend, he had long hair. I suppose. If you know what I mean, and you probably don't but thats the West, sometimes wear blue trousers, but it doesn't. Yeah but it matters to me. Cause varying heights and spectrums.

368100

Haven't seen many but in honesty there's plenty of non crossdressers (men an women) that don't dress well too so it's not exclusive

LincolnHawk

Oscar de la Hoya

Well, I've been to Thailand a few times & I can honestly say, to my shame, there's lots of men there that look a hell of a lot better than me dressed as a woman. & I am a woman.

wakka12

Well its hard to be attractive in the other gender. Even a feminine looking man will have a relatively masculine face for a woman, which is not really considered a good thing in women.
A man would at least need to take hormones and stuff to recreate the feminine soft tissue deposits of the face if he wanted to stand any chance of being an attractive woman

Exeggcute

jeanjolie wrote: »

Generally in the West, women can't crossdress (used to with jeans) compared to men or at least not to any obvious degree. You're probably thinking of a man in a dress/skirt and/or high heels which you've never seen on the streets of Dublin.

The reason I brought this up was because I went through my old classmates Facebook profile and saw him dressed in light blue skinny jeans, ugg boots, and earrings. Now I have no problem with men being as feminine as they want, hell I'd even date both genders of varying heights and spectrums of gender expression. Open to LGBT,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WHpQVMZbjo

Bambi985

I've yet to see a cross-dressing man who wasn't very obviously a cross-dressing man.

Persephone kindness

I think they all look fabulous!

Mean Laqueefa

[jeanjolie;103760675]It's a bit of an emotionally charged debate in this new gender liberation movement but I suppose it's good for AH

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Its Not,

Generally in the West, women can't crossdress (used to with jeans) compared to men or at least not to any obvious degree. You're probably thinking of a man in a dress/skirt and/or high heels which you've never seen on the streets of Dublin.

But even then, I don't think I've seen a man who was a bit 'feminine' in his dressing style. It all seems to be very overt and extreme like drag.

i just dont know how to answer this, white jeans ?

The reason I brought this up was because I went through my old classmates Facebook profile and saw him dressed in light blue skinny jeans, ugg boots, and earrings. Now I have no problem with men being as feminine as they want, hell I'd even date both genders of varying heights and spectrums of gender expression. Open to LGBT


The point is although I didn't have a problem with him looking feminine he....didn't look good tbh. Not because he looked 'gay' or they were not fitting well but..I can't really explain it. That's the thing I get with a lot of cross-dressing men. They just look a bit out of place. Do you agree?

Lay off facebook and judging people on appearance, there is enough is these **** topics on AH already.

Sudance

_Brian wrote: »

Their just being themselves.

They're hardly any more out of place than any poorly dressed man, probably myself included a large proportion of the time.

When I was younger it took me back a bit to see a cross dressed man, I just wasn't used to things outside the Irish "norm". Honestly I couldn't give a rats ass now, whatever yer happy with, I judge people on many things, but how they look isn't one.

Same here, I thought I was seeing things. I was on the bus to the Seacat ferry and saw this woman in high heels and rainmac coat..and thought she looks very masculine. so did a second take. It was a man....crikey he was confident in his walk, but it took me a couple of days to shake the sight...
Only time I ever saw a cross dressed man...Yup, sheltered life lol

What I've seen on tv etc it all just looks way OTT to me with all the glitter etc, I suspect a lot of it is just attention grabbing..Damn some of them look great though..for a man I mean lol. NO I dont mean I think they look great as in attractive...I mean..oh never mind

pragmatic1

Not cross-dressers but some really good looking post op trans women. There's even a pre-op called Bailey Jay that is sexy as fcuk.

Samaris

Conchita Wurst is oddly beautiful. The beard with the long hair and dress is a bit mind-throwing, but sure eh.

Known a couple of guys that could wear a dress and it actually suit them - the first time this happened it was a friend of mine and I was a bit taken aback at how well one of the dresses worked for him, especially since the guy was six foot-ish and reasonably solidly built. The main issues with dresses on guys is that they tend to be made to accommodate what blokes don't have and don't accommodate what they do have very well (usually the wider torso between chest and waist). I assume someone somewhere's gotten into the male dress market though to make up for that.

spurious

We have all seen them, we just don't realise it.

Canis Lupus

Scrabbling for new topic ideas or just looking for a shemale to search for on redtube?

freshpopcorn

Out of the ones I've seen they have a tend to look bad because they go over the top with make-up and tacky dresses/heals. Even a very attractive woman wouldn't look wearing the same things.

DrFunkatron

Go watch some RuPauls drag race and you'll see that some guys are really convincing in drag.

FizzleSticks

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Pac1Man

Another day, another gender/appearance thread. Go outside OP (metaphorically speaking), the answers you are looking for on Boards are generally not fully representative of real life.

CalamariFritti

spurious wrote: »

We have all seen them, we just don't realise it.

That. I am certain I have seen a few but of course I wouldn't know. The moment I would know I could appreciate the effort I guess but good looking as in attraction, naaa...

Same with a few not exactly cross dressing but yet feminine looking men I have seen. Androgyn or clearly bi types in the style of Brian Molko or so. You would know they are in an aloof and strange kinda way good looking.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

I would have tried it on with Cillian Murphy's character in Breakfast On Pluto if I bumped into her in a pub. Now there's a sentence I didn't think I would be typing when I woke up this morning...

harry Bailey esq

gumbo1 wrote: »

Well, there was a few times where I was almost fooled into thinking that I was looking at a very good looking woman....

What's done is done,was it a good experience?

Widdershins

Samaris wrote: »

Conchita Wurst is oddly beautiful. The beard with the long hair and dress is a bit mind-throwing, but sure eh.

Known a couple of guys that could wear a dress and it actually suit them - the first time this happened it was a friend of mine and I was a bit taken aback at how well one of the dresses worked for him, especially since the guy was six foot-ish and reasonably solidly built. The main issues with dresses on guys is that they tend to be made to accommodate what blokes don't have and don't accommodate what they do have very well (usually the wider torso between chest and waist). I assume someone somewhere's gotten into the male dress market though to make up for that.

I believe there are reinforced, extra wide shoes for transvestite men so I guess there must be dresses for them too.

On the OP, I was looking at satin French knickers on Amazon and many of the reviews were written by delighted transvestite men! They were fairly tacky cheap and shiny underwear. I guess they are more of the Rocky Horror variety trans men than the frumpy spinster sister variety.

JaCrispy

_Brian wrote: »

I judge people on many things, but how they look isn't one.

Complete and utter rubbish. Those two statements cannot be separated.

Richard Hillman

I would ride Hayley from Coronation Street

PARlance

JaCrispy wrote: »

Complete and utter rubbish. Those two statements cannot be separated.

Unless you're blind.

Balmed Out

On my j1 i came a came across a few, sounds bad but anyhow was working in a take away near a few gay bars, lots were very plausible and unless you were staring and examining you wouldnt have realized. There were plenty more with stubble poking through make up and broad shoulders that to be fair looked very odd but then so do half the men who wear skinny jeans.

If I time traveled from even a 100 years age I'd think there was a lot more cross dressing women then men but women have taken ownership of traditional male clothing. Woman wearing pants, shirts etc is normal but a man in a skirt isn't.

ThinkProgress

Mean Laqueefa wrote: »

Lay off facebook and judging people on appearance, there is enough is these **** topics on AH already.

Lay off telling people what to do b!atch!!

We all judge each other based on appearance... whether you realise it or not.

I've only ever seen one crossdresser who looked good... the rest usually look like they're extras in a horror movie, or they're a bit confused and think it's halloween!!

spurious

ThinkProgress wrote: »

I've only ever seen one crossdresser who looked good... the rest usually look like they're extras in a horror movie, or they're a bit confused and think it's halloween!!

...or looked so good that you didn't realise they were crossdressing.

Hannibal_Smith

Why do all your posts have to involve knocking women? If it's not how they dress it's how they act. Are you just writing long posts and throwing the little jibes in there and I'm rising to the bate like a fool?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Somebody played this video on here recently. I never realised that it was a transgender woman until I looked at her other vids.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnQbgShb6r8

Donnielighto

ThinkProgress wrote: »

Lay off telling people what to do b!atch!!

We all judge each other based on appearance... whether you realise it or not.

I've only ever seen one crossdresser who looked good... the rest usually look like they're extras in a horror movie, or they're a bit confused and think it's halloween!!

Or you didn't notice them.

One eyed Jack

spurious wrote: »

...or looked so good that you didn't realise they were crossdressing.

Donnielighto wrote: »

Or you didn't notice them.

I don't get this?

The OP asks have people ever seen a cross-dressing male who looks good, so the obvious implication is that it could be easily determined that the person is male first of all, and then determined after that, that they look either good or bad.

To answer the OPs question, I've known plenty of cross-dressing males and men that dress effeminately, and they haven't looked good at all.

Galwayguy35

Only ever saw one in real life walking down O Connell Street, you could easily tell it was a fella though.

Some of the Asian ones are fairly convincing though, maybe because they are usually not that tall and a smaller build.

Galwayguy35

Aren't you supposed to be studying for the Leaving Cert OP?

suicide_circus

9 times out of 10 is glaringly obvious. Unless the subject already had outstandingly feminine features to being with.

jeanjolie

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I don't get this?

The OP asks have people ever seen a cross-dressing male who looks good, so the obvious implication is that it could be easily determined that the person is male first of all, and then determined after that, that they look either good or bad.

To answer the OPs question, I've known plenty of cross-dressing males and men that dress effeminately, and they haven't looked good at all.

For effeminately dressed men, not looking nice because not masculine or just 'objectively' don't look good?

Could you describe one of them and what they might have worn. Handbag, scarf?

LordSutch

Grayson Perry.

One eyed Jack

jeanjolie wrote: »

For effeminately dressed men, not looking nice because not masculine or just 'objectively' don't look good?

Could you describe one of them and what they might have worn. Handbag, scarf?

Objectively don't look good, purely because of what they're wearing or their chosen physical appearance, pretty much what you describe in your opening post with the guy wearing the ugh boots as I call them, and the skinny jeans (and before some Captain Obvious points it out - yes we're all aware that surfer dudes in Oz wear ugg boots, but we're not in flamin' Oz now, are we?).

I'd go one further than that though in that the guys that I know of will have full face effeminately done makeup (bleach blonde hair and dark HD eyebrows are a must!), with the full-on fake tan and some will even have the shellacs on!

They're not carrying handbags or wearing dresses or any of the rest of it, but their style is in no way as unique as they want people to think they are as a person, it's definitely styled to gain maximum attention (both good and bad, doesn't matter apparently), but objectively? They really don't look like the hot mess they think they are IMO.

TerrorFirmer

I think people are confusing cross-dressing men with actual transgender people in this thread. There are loads of very passable transgender people, mostly people who were slight in build or had slender features to begin with.

Certain styles suit different people better than others. Some guys can pull off the 'effeminate' look very well in the casual sense - not too many guys would get away stylistically with wearing a summery dress though.

If you look up 'Androgynous style' it will give you an idea of both genders bridging the style gap between men and womens fashion.

ThinkProgress

One eyed Jack wrote: »

I don't get this?

The OP asks have people ever seen a cross-dressing male who looks good, so the obvious implication is that it could be easily determined that the person is male first of all, and then determined after that, that they look either good or bad.

To answer the OPs question, I've known plenty of cross-dressing males and men that dress effeminately, and they haven't looked good at all.

I think the OP is suggesting men who are obviously dressing in women's clothes, but who are somewhat pulling the look off...

They're not suggesting that you would need to be attracted to them in order for their look to be believable. That's my interpretation anyway.

A male who doesn't want to be masculine, but also doesn't want to be totally feminine either... (I think it's called the "confused look" in some circles)