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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread - Capital Punishment
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We have had an issue at the back for a while now and far to often there are huge gaps there that luckily we haven't really been punished for. We tend to give teams a lot of room and a bit of a head start in a lot of games. Its not until the second half when you see things start to tighten up. There will no doubt be a day where we really get hit for it! It could of been Monaghan.
Commerford has done very well so far this season which is obviously a big plus the kick outs are not always perfect as u would expect from Dublin but look who hes replacing there!
Where top of Division 1 yet still have Con Connolly Macauley Mccaffery Cooper and Cluxton all to come back in!!
If where stuttering when everyone is back and lads are still not fully firing then we can start talking about issues. I cant see it happening though hopefully
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I didn't watch it back on the tele but did they show replays of Michael Murphys elbow on David Byrne? Happened right in front of me. Not for the first time he went in not looking for the ball but to badly injure a player.
He's a individual who always seems to avoid censure.
Best player ireland has seen in the last decade and probably in the one previous also.
I'm not a donegal fan, in fact I'm a rival neighbour but he is top class. Never was a dirty player. In the last year or two he's had to hold his own. Being a monster of a man he's constantly targeted, hauled by 2-3 players every single game. He is the heartbeat of any team and would be the number 1 player in any team in Ireland. That Dublin team would revolve around him if he was in it.
Aidan O'Shea and Kieran Donaghy have had to throw their weight about as they were subject to the same treatment in every game (coincidently from Dublin backs also
). As a human being you'd get sick of it too.
Connolly does the same.
Maybe it was a red card yes, don't doubt that, but to label him as a disgusting individual is hilarious. Go back to the soccer. It's not tiddlywinks we're playing.
These modern bits of analysis about players being thugs and sc*mbags... honestly?! GAA is an amateur organisation, these lads earn their living like most of us and do this as a volunteer at the evenings and weekends. If they were all ex convicts or had criminal records then maybe I'd see your point.
For now stick to the premiership before you come out with such a ridiculous attack.0 -
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Best player ireland has seen in the last decade and probably in the one previous also.
I'm not a donegal fan, in fact I'm a rival neighbour but he is top class. Never was a dirty player. In the last year or two he's had to hold his own. Being a monster of a man he's constantly targeted, hauled by 2-3 players every single game. He is the heartbeat of any team and would be the number 1 player in any team in Ireland. That Dublin team would revolve around him if he was in it.
Aidan O'Shea and Kieran Donaghy have had to throw their weight about as they were subject to the same treatment in every game (coincidently from Dublin backs also ). As a human being you'd get sick of it too.
Connolly does the same.
Maybe it was a red card yes, don't doubt that, but to label him as a disgusting individual is hilarious. Go back to the soccer. It's not tiddlywinks we're playing.
These modern bits of analysis about players being thugs and sc*mbags... honestly?! GAA is an amateur organisation, these lads earn their living like most of us and do this as a volunteer at the evenings and weekends. If they were all ex convicts or had criminal records then maybe I'd see your point.
For now stick to the premiership before you come out with such a ridiculous attack.
Whatever other nonsense is in your post, this takes the biscuit.
I cant think of a single other player than Murphy that has been involved in more head high tackles currently playing. Disgusting was appropriate (in relation to his tackle!!), as he's been involved in numerous disgusting tackles in his career.
You've got a couple of thinly veiled digs in there, says more about you than you think... the mask slipped a bit there didnt it. But we know your type sunshine, ten a penny around here
The thing about being a Dub on cesspits like this forum, is that we get to see so many of our players being called x,y,z, and no one ever bats an eyelid. Lads are obsessed with us, we get it, we're under the spotlight.
But its quite funny seeing peoples concern when another counties player is called out.
If a Dub did what Murphy did..... can you imagine the outrage!! 0 -
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Whatever other nonsense is in your post, this takes the biscuit.
I cant think of a single other player than Murphy that has been involved in more head high tackles currently playing. Disgusting was appropriate, as he's been involved in numerous disgusting tackles in his career.
You've got a couple of thinly veiled digs in there, says more about you than you think... the mask slipped a bit there didnt it. But we know your type sunshine, ten a penny around here
The thing about being a Dub on cesspits like this forum, is that we get to see so many of our players being called x,y,z, and no one ever bats an eyelid. Lads are obsessed with us, we get it, we're under the spotlight.
But its quite funny seeing peoples concern when another counties player is called out.
If a Dub did what Murphy did..... can you imagine the outrage!!
Oh they aren't thinly veiled, I'm saying what I'm saying
If you think disgusting is an appropriate description of him then okay, I think that's the discussion dead.0 -
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Whatever other nonsense is in your post, this takes the biscuit.
I cant think of a single other player than Murphy that has been involved in more head high tackles currently playing. Disgusting was appropriate, as he's been involved in numerous disgusting tackles in his career.
You've got a couple of thinly veiled digs in there, says more about you than you think... the mask slipped a bit there didnt it. But we know your type sunshine, ten a penny around here
The thing about being a Dub on cesspits like this forum, is that we get to see so many of our players being called x,y,z, and no one ever bats an eyelid. Lads are obsessed with us, we get it, we're under the spotlight.
But its quite funny seeing peoples concern when another counties player is called out.
If a Dub did what Murphy did..... can you imagine the outrage!!
Jesus, Slattsy. You've been on here for years, and have lots and lots of quality comments. I can't believe you're condoning the description of disgusting being attributed to Michael Murphy. He's tough - he needs to be. He's the first person on the opposition plan sheet to be targeted. He's absolutely quality.
Philly Mc, D Connolly etc are tough - play beyond the rules line etc. But from I can see, they are quality men. Despite what people think of Diarmuid Connolly, I think he's a good role model - considering the shlt that he has had to put up with for a number of years. I would never label these as disgusting. I would never call an amateur who gives sacrifices year in year out as being any way disgusting.0 -
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If Byrne had stayed down rolling around holding his headwhich Donegal players were doing when there was no head contact then Murphy might have gotten the line but Davy was straight up on his feet.
And a good egg he is too.I haven't played to a particularly high level (I was a better soccer player), and I don't think anybody I played with would describe me as "dirty". But I have surely done worse than Murphy did on Saturday night. You often go in with the intent of "going in hard" and "letting him know you're there". And the next thing you have clobbered somebody. Hopefully in the shoulder or arse or somewhere that doesn't make you "disgusting". Quite often when getting tackled you get a punch in the head and you think that you're not going to let that <expletive> away next time when you're tackling him. My reading of it was that Murphy went in hard and before he realised it was Byrne's head rather than shoulder it was too late.
This is not to say that Murphy shouldn't have been sent off. He absolutely should have. The authorities are correct to clamp down on this. Eventually players will be reprogrammed to stop doing it. But I don't judge him for the challenge other than thinking he is a bit reckless and learning slowly.
A fair post.
Murphy has gone in to absolutely bust Byrne with a shoulder, and right he was. He's coming in side on and it's there for him. These challenges are a great feature of the game.
These things happen, you go in to make legitimate contact and it's mistimed or (as is increasingly the case) the player has ducked his head and all of a sudden you've caught him and laid him out. It's one of those where it looks far worse than it is. Very similar to a high tackle.
Is it a red card? It could absolutely be construed as dangerous play depending on the distance between the players and how late the challenge is. Saturday night could have went either way but for me he was just in quick enough for it to be borderline for the referee to just play it safe with a yellow. A fraction later and it would in all likelihood it would have been a red.
Nobody is complaining about that, but if anybody thinks Michael Murphy was going in to deliberately elbow Davy Byrne in the face 5 minutes into a game within a few yards of the linesman they need to get back to reality. This is a fella who has been playing senior inter county football since 2007. He's not stupid and he's not a dirty player. He is seriously, seriously hard but he's a fair player, as his peers will tell you. He's been sent off once in championship football in 12 years and that was a case of mistaken identity which was overruled.
Just FYI for later in the summer - Neil McGee and Stephen McMenamin are our boys who'll be gunning for you with an elbow given half a chance.
And you're right too, we are going to see much less of these challenges in general now just because of how quick and elusive the modern players are and how they are being coached to deal with contact. It's getting riskier now and the key now is to shepard into a channel for someone else to 'tackle big' from the front instead of going for the direct hit yourself.
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