Qatar cut off by Arab neighbors.

fonda

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/arab-nations-sever-diplomatic-ties-with-qatar-35788896.html

90+% of Qatar imports come via Saudi, currently the land border is closed.

Etihad, Emirates & Flydubai will all cease flying to Qatar from UAE.

Qatar Airways cannot fly over Saudi & UAE airspace and will have to send all traffic via Iranian airspace.

Fighting Tao

Ah the old "I'll drop this here without comment". So your thoughts are?

Persephone kindness

Does this really affect us?

degsie

Fake news it's fake

testicles

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DontThankMe

Sounds like the world cup in Qatar in 2022 should be fun.

Erik Shin

They are accusing Qatar, amongst other things of being involved in terrorism, ......wonder if FIFA will rethink their world cup or is it a case of corruption and terrorism being a perfect match

fonda

Persephone kindness wrote: »

Does this really affect us?

Not directly but lots of Irish in Qatar, lots of Irish people fly Qatar Airways via Doha onto Asia and Australia.

Also, potential for oil price to be affected.

Giant US airbase located in Qatar that is involved with attacks in the region.

Atoms for Peace

What part of the body is a Qatar, first time ive heard of one.

While it's good to see a country with such a horrible and twisted regime being ostracised, it's pretty damn rich of Saudi fúckin' Arabia to be claiming moral high ground in any situation. :rolleyes:

Persephone kindness

fonda wrote: »

Not directly but lots of Irish in Qatar, lots of Irish people fly Qatar Airways via Doha onto Asia and Australia.

Also, potential for oil price to be affected.

Giant US airbase located in Qatar that is involved with attacks in the region.

Ah I see thank you it's enlightening information

fonda

Fighting Tao wrote: »

Ah the old "I'll drop this here without comment". So your thoughts are?

Ah the old "I wont contribute to the tread, I'm just her for thanks comment"

Persephone kindness

fonda wrote: »

Ah the old "I wont contribute to the tread, I'm just her for thanks comment"

I'll thank everyone in the thread. We need it. We deserve it

Fighting Tao

fonda wrote: »

Ah the old "I wont contribute to the tread, I'm just her for thanks comment"

Nah. I'm interested in your viewpoint. You didn't give us anything to reply to. Anyone could read about Qatar on the net. Surely if you went to the effort of posing it on a forum you have an opinion.

All My Stars Aligned

Deleted User wrote: »

While it's good to see a country with such a horrible and twisted regime being ostracised, it's pretty damn rich of Saudi fúckin' Arabia to be claiming moral high ground in any situation. :rolleyes:

Was thinking the same.

As for the US, I'm not sure how happy they'll be give their presence there. Also, oil prices rising won't be too popular with them.

Biggest lickspittle on boardz

Saudi Arabia calling out Qatar for sponsoring extremism. Talk about the pot and the fcuking kettle...

gifted

Just checked the oul Google map and it's kinda still there...not cut off at all

Guy Sajer

Fighting Tao wrote: »

You didn't give us anything to reply to.

Yet here you are.


It's a bit worrying. Saudi were never going to qualify for Qatar anyway.

keano_afc

You'd have to be a pretty reprehensible place to be ostracised by the likes of Saudi Arabia.

fonda

keano_afc wrote: »

You'd have to be a pretty reprehensible place to be ostracised by the likes of Saudi Arabia.

Don't think Saudi's actions are much to do with a reprehensible place and appears more to do with Qatar not doing what it is told and not following direction in relation to Iran.

conditioned games

I guess the gas pipeline from Qatar through Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria and into Turkey that the US and Britain have been pushing for is out of the question now. No point in them continuing to support ISIS you would hope to cut off the muslim Shiite influence in the region.

arayess

conditioned games wrote: »

I guess the gas pipeline from Qatar through Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria and into Turkey that the US and Britain have been pushing for is out of the question now. No point in them continuing to support ISIS you would hope to cut off the muslim Shiite influence in the region.

I agree , the pipeline is probably been a dead duck since the russians landed to boost assad. The support for IS etc...is now a waste of time and money
The qatar rulers are now probably cheesed off they won't be selling the gas in europe via that pipeline and perhaps didn't want to give us the current strategy


also reckon trump in his recent visit saudi arabia gave them grief about IS and the new arms deal has unpublished T&Cs attached relating to IS and terror sponsorship

Trump campaigned on anti IS platform and it would be a great win if they were wiped out.
His ego would explode and his popularity rocket if he pulled that off

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Erik Shin wrote: »

They are accusing Qatar, amongst other things of being involved in terrorism, ......wonder if FIFA will rethink their world cup or is it a case of corruption and terrorism being a perfect match

Well, it hasn't so far with slavery accusations so unless the Qataris get caught with a smoking gun, I'd seriously doubt it.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Deleted User wrote: »

While it's good to see a country with such a horrible and twisted regime being ostracised, it's pretty damn rich of Saudi fúckin' Arabia to be claiming moral high ground in any situation. :rolleyes:

Saudi is much worse than Qatar when it comes to twisted reqimes! Qatar is mild up until the point you break the law.

up for anything

Persephone kindness wrote: »

Does this really affect us?

Does it have to affect us in order to make an interesting thread?

Anyhow, to quote John Donne, "No man is an island, Entire of itself,".

Vicxas

Watch fuel prices skyrocket again:

http://www.thejournal.ie/qatar-cut-off-3427656-Jun2017/

Shenshen

Saudi Arabia accusing another country of sponsoring terrorism... must be the wrong flavour of terrorism, I suppose.
Or do you think they're worried because Qatar is spending more on sponsoring terrorism than them?


Either way, going to be an interesting world cup in 2022

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Saudi is much worse than Qatar when it comes to twisted reqimes! Qatar is mild up until the point you break the law.

I'm sure that's true for Western workers who arrive with lots of money to spend but their abysmla Human Rights record speaks for itself. Migrant workers from South Asia are essentially treated as slaves and being worked to death building stadia for the 2022 World Cup. The decision to award that tournament to Qatar remains represhensible.

It's a shame so many Western expats choose to go and live in such an oppressive society, though I can certainly appreciate the chance for a luxurious lifestyle (behind closed doors) and low tax/tax free salaries are enticing.

Ulysses Gaze

Shenshen wrote: »

Saudi Arabia accusing another country of sponsoring terrorism..D

ChikiChiki

The Saudis and Yanks don't even seem to be making an effort to hide their hypocrisy anymore.

flutered

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Saudi is much worse than Qatar when it comes to twisted reqimes! Qatar is mild up until the point you break the law.

did not ireland vote for the saudis to sit on some un council as regards womens affairs

greencap

gifted wrote: »

Just checked the oul Google map and it's kinda still there...not cut off at all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3SxEOvAOEg

etselbbuns

Destroy Qatar

twill

arayess wrote: »

also reckon trump in his recent visit saudi arabia gave them grief about IS and the new arms deal has unpublished T&Cs attached relating to IS and terror sponsorship

"Do what you want with the weapons Obama gave you, but these are for bombing Yemen!"

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I'm sure that's true for Western workers who arrive with lots of money to spend but their abysmla Human Rights record speaks for itself. Migrant workers from South Asia are essentially treated as slaves and being worked to death building stiadia for the 2022 World Cup. The decision to award that tournament to Qatar remains represhensible.

It's a shame so many Western expats choose to go and live in such an oppressive society, though I can certainly appreciate the chance for a luxurious lifestyle (behind closed doors) and low tax/tax free salaries are enticing.

Oh I'm not saying it's perfect - nut it's a bit more tolerant on basic freedoms. Especially if you're a woman.

Zebra3

Deleted User wrote: »

While it's good to see a country with such a horrible and twisted regime being ostracised, it's pretty damn rich of Saudi fúckin' Arabia to be claiming moral high ground in any situation. :rolleyes:

Or the allies of the head choppers.

arayess

twill wrote: »

"Do what you want with the weapons Obama gave you, but these are for bombing Yemen!"

who knows?
..perhaps he told them that would be the end of weapon sales or
Trump never campaigned on yemen only on IS - IFAIK

rebels in yemen are allied to Iran , maybe trump doesn't care..who knows

VonLuck

Will this affect any flights from Ireland through Qatar?

Cheerful Spring

fonda wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/world-news/arab-nations-sever-diplomatic-ties-with-qatar-35788896.html

90+% of Qatar imports come via Saudi, currently the land border is closed.

Etihad, Emirates & Flydubai will all cease flying to Qatar from UAE.

Qatar Airways cannot fly over Saudi & UAE airspace and will have to send all traffic via Iranian airspace.

Not surprised by this Qatar did not want to back Saudi Arabia policies against Iran.

Cheerful Spring

Erik Shin wrote: »

They are accusing Qatar, amongst other things of being involved in terrorism, ......wonder if FIFA will rethink their world cup or is it a case of corruption and terrorism being a perfect match

Bull****. Trump and Allies in the Middle East are trying to put the stop to Iranian influence in the region. Iraq is already a Iranian puppet state. Syria is also.

Doltanian

The good news is Qatar is not a huge Oil producer, however it has enourmous gas reserves. Luckily Europe gets most of its gas from Russia. Expect the market to get spooked and Oil prices to surge. Another reason for stirring conflict. Every time you fill your petrol or diesel tank you are indirectly funding Islamic terrorism.

Erik Shin

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Bull****. Trump and Allies in the Middle East are trying to put the stop to Iranian influence in the region. Iraq is already a Iranian puppet state. Syria is also.

Watchu talkin bout Willis!

NoCrackHaving

VonLuck wrote: »

Will this affect any flights from Ireland through Qatar?

It's likely the flight paths will re-route via Iran and Turkey, so probably an extra hour, hour and a half flight time.

Bit of a pain but not a massive issue.

keeponhurling

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Erik Shin wrote: »

They are accusing Qatar, amongst other things of being involved in terrorism, ......wonder if FIFA will rethink their world cup or is it a case of corruption and terrorism being a perfect match

Well, it hasn't so far with slavery accusations so unless the Qataris get caught with a smoking gun, I'd seriously doubt it.

World cup and football decisions are supposed to be done independent of politics.
So Qatar's relationship with its neighbors would be irrelevant.

(Of course on a logistical level this certainly doesn't help)

vicwatson

Deleted User wrote: »

While it's good to see a country with such a horrible and twisted regime being ostracised, it's pretty damn rich of Saudi f?ckin' Arabia to be claiming moral high ground in any situation. :rolleyes:

Pot and kettle

vicwatson

flutered wrote: »

did not ireland vote for the saudis to sit on some un council as regards womens affairs

It's likely Charlie Flanagan voted yes but us minions are being it's told it's none of our business how our government voted :mad:

TallGlass

Doltanian wrote: »

Every time you fill your petrol or diesel tank you are indirectly funding Islamic terrorism.

Well what's left of it by the time the Irish Goverment are finished with it, they take nearly 60% in tax.

http://www.pumps.ie/FAQPricesExplained.php

Current average petrol price: 136.9
Current Vat: 25.6c/litre
Fixed Duty: 59.622c/litre
Government take: 85.22c/litre
Cost before tax & duty: 51.68c/litre
Retailer & distributor margin (est): 11c/litre
Base petrol price (est): 40.68

Capt'n Midnight

Doltanian wrote: »

The good news is Qatar is not a huge Oil producer, however it has enourmous gas reserves. Luckily Europe gets most of its gas from Russia.

No.

EU gas imports are very roughly 1/3 Russia , 1/3 Norway and 1/3 elsewhere.



Note: the UK is a nett importer of gas and will be getting more LNG from the US in future.



Also Japan and China have reported progress in recovering methane hydrates from the ocean floor. So Qatar may find a smaller market for it's gas.

MonkieSocks

Erik Shin wrote: »

They are accusing Qatar, amongst other things of being involved in terrorism, ......wonder if FIFA will rethink their world cup or is it a case of corruption and terrorism being a perfect match

Imagine what a "Sudden Death Shootout!" would entail :eek:

Gatling

It's not the first time it's happened,

It's safe to Saudi is behind this which is odd considering they are both involved in the Isis coalition and yemen together

jelutong

Will it affect sponsorship agreements in place with FC BARCELONA and M Sport for example?