Armed Support Units for "major" Irish cities

Sosurface

They dont even care if they strike here. Despite ISIS being known to be active in Waterford.

http://www.thejournal.ie/armed-support-units-irish-cities-terror-watch-3427293-Jun2017/

AzcuzCoz

IS is active in Waterford? What will they be attacking there? A few cars? A ferry maybe?

Edit: they're probably after their crystal.

EagererBeaver

Tell us more about Isis being active in Waterford please.

Sosurface

EagererBeaver wrote: »

Tell us more about Isis being active in Waterford please.

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/couple-arrested-in-waterford-on-suspicion-of-aiding-isis-1.3064270%3Fmode%3Damp?espv=1

AzcuzCoz

I heard about that a few weeks ago alright, but two people raising funds for them, Waterford is hardly Raqqa now is it! Is there a cell or something in Waterford itself?

EagererBeaver

Sosurface wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/couple-arrested-in-waterford-on-suspicion-of-aiding-isis-1.3064270%3Fmode%3Damp?espv=1

Yes, I recall the incident. A couple were arrested on suspicion of raising funds to send to Syria. You interpret that as Isis "being known to be active"? You realise it's not the same thing?

Sosurface

AzcuzCoz wrote: »

I heard about that a few weeks ago alright, but two people raising funds for them, Waterford is hardly Raqqa now is it! Is there a cell or something in Waterford itself?

Not the first time in recent years there have been arrests for similar purposes in the city. Too lazy to dig up older links but you'll find em if you look.

NIMAN

"ISIS active in Waterford".

It appears the Culture of Fear is getting to some people.

BBM77

Sosurface wrote: »

They dont even care if they strike here. Despite ISIS being known to be active in Waterford.

http://www.thejournal.ie/armed-support-units-irish-cities-terror-watch-3427293-Jun2017/

There has been a ASU based in Waterford for years. I’d say this is some dozy Dud that could not tell the difference between Waterford And Kilkenny. Why would you even put an ASU in Kilkenny being that it has such a small population.

Sosurface

NIMAN wrote: »

"ISIS active in Waterford".

It appears the Culture of Fear is getting to some people.

How active are they in Kilkenny? or Galway, Limerick, Cork etc?

EagererBeaver

Sosurface wrote: »

How active are they in Kilkenny? or Galway, Limerick, Cork etc?

You tell us, you're the one with the big hysterical post with an unsubstantiated claim.

AzcuzCoz

I do agree that it is a bit OTT, but if we were that way inclined about security then we better deploy the ASU to Leitrim then!

NIMAN

Sosurface wrote: »

How active are they in Kilkenny? or Galway, Limerick, Cork etc?

I haven't a baldies.

EagererBeaver

Carrick on Shannon is a major stag destination. Alcohol consumption. Promiscuous sex. Strippers. Midgets. Isis hate all that and will want to target it. Lock the place down.

Sosurface

EagererBeaver wrote: »

You tell us, you're the one with the big hysterical post with an unsubstantiated claim.

"Major Irish cities" ......... Dublin, Cork, Galway, Limerick.................Kilkenny.
Fill in the blank and spot the odd one out.

AzcuzCoz

Sure the last time I heard they were active up in Ballinamuck. Why don't they deploy the ASU there?

This pointless OTT reaction really does get at me...

EagererBeaver

In all seriousness now, what the flying **** are you actually on about?

How active are Isis in any of the major cities of Ireland? I have no ****ing clue, but at a stretch, I'm going to guess at "not very ****ing active whatsoever".

Sosurface

There are 5 "cities" named. One of them is not a major Irish city. One not named is. Hope this helps.

irishgrover

Sosurface wrote:

They dont even care if they strike here. Despite ISIS being known to be active in Waterford.

There were a lot more people allegedly raising money for terrorists to murder Brits 20 years ago than now. Having arseholes raising money for terrorists is thankfully a lot different from active terrorist cells....

maizes

word on the grapevine is the hotspots are waterford, limerick and that place in dublin,

also some eyes are on a town in mayo

doen't prove anything

EagererBeaver

Sosurface wrote: »

There are 5 "cities" named. One of them is not a major Irish city. One not named is. Hope this helps.

No, it doesn't help in the slightest. You asked how active Isis are in major cities. What the **** does naming the cities have to do with anything?

Do you even know what you're responding to?

deisemum

Jihad Jane and the black flag were in hiding in Waterford a while back. Jihad Jane was in Viewmount, the mosque has been raided because of suspected terrorism links as have a number of places in the city centre.

There was a security expert interviewed on Newstalk a while back and he said Waterford and Wexford were hot spots for fundamentalists.

I doubt Waterford is anywhere on ISIS's target list. They would aim for busy places like a major city, football match, concert etc and Waterford has none of these, very rare there is a high concentration of people in one place in Waterford.

Harry Palmr

Well I'm just glad it's Kilkenny ISIS are interested in Anyway that article is from the Churnel, which has journalism of infant school level.

StringerBell

As per John Hearne on fb, the unit is already based here which is why Waterford was not listed.

Deiseen

StringerBell wrote: »

As per John Hearne on fb, the unit is already based here which is why Waterford was not listed.

You would assume this would have been reported in the article then no? And surely they already had them in Dublin and Cork, so why were they mentioned?

Johnboy1951

Get over it .... Waterford does not exist except in your collective imagination, hence no mention in the article!

StringerBell

Deiseen wrote: »

You would assume this would have been reported in the article then no? And surely they already had them in Dublin and Cork, so why were they mentioned?

Dunno, all I can tell you is he commented that he rang them to query it and that was his response.

Deiseen

StringerBell wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

You would assume this would have been reported in the article then no? And surely they already had them in Dublin and Cork, so why were they mentioned?

Dunno, all I can tell you is he commented that he rang them to query it and that was his response.

This armed response unit is different from the emergency response unit so someone is getting their wires crossed

TheQuietFella

StringerBell wrote: »

As per John Hearne on fb, the unit is already based here which is why Waterford was not listed.

Top Secret!!!

Max Powers

TheQuietFella wrote: »

Top Secret!!!

Starring Val Kilmer.

mooseknunkle

Deiseen wrote: »

This armed response unit is different from the emergency response unit so someone is getting their wires crossed

Yeah they are two different units wasn't the ARU set up last year to deal with the feud in Dublin and the ERU was always based in Waterford,or is it the other way around

Mountainsandh

deisemum wrote: »

Jihad Jane and the black flag were in hiding in Waterford a while back. Jihad Jane was in Viewmount, the mosque has been raided because of suspected terrorism links as have a number of places in the city centre.

There was a security expert interviewed on Newstalk a while back and he said Waterford and Wexford were hot spots for fundamentalists.

Deleted User wrote: »

I doubt Waterford is anywhere on ISIS's target list. They would aim for busy places like a major city, football match, concert etc and Waterford has none of these, very rare there is a high concentration of people in one place in Waterford.

Winterval, Spraoi, ...

Anyway, don't think they'd be worried about attacks so much as just operation command centers sort of thing anyway. Training/planning/communication.

Oh, and coincidentally, Saudi investors want to invest right here, in Waterford ?
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/commercial-property/saudi-mall-operator-plans-shopping-centre-in-waterford-1.3017993

Reading into it a bit more, this guy was only hired in May 16, and in February 2017 this is what he said about expansion in a pretty comprehensive article :

Al Jasser says Arabian Centres has no plans to expand outside the kingdom, insisting that Saudi Arabia — with a population of at least 30 million people — is a big enough country to fulfil its growth expansion plans. The company’s malls are concentrated in Dammam, Riyadh and Jeddah, with new additions in Makkah and Madinah (both top religious tourism destinations) and Qassim.

I think it's a bit odd.

But hey, there could be nothing in it, maybe he just changed his mind on expansion ...

Christy Browne

I've seen the armed response unit all over the city the past few weeks, multiple times.

The guards seems to have a really high presence lately, just today I saw two squad cars and the armed response vehicle out patrolling.

MentalMario

AzcuzCoz wrote: »

Edit: they're probably after their crystal.

Hopefully they get more out of it than the poor workers did.

eeguy

There's not a chance the ARU have an 8 minute response time in Dublin.

Wanderer78

eeguy wrote: »

There's not a chance the ARU have an 8 minute response time in Dublin.

they done 'a paper exercise'!:eek:

StringerBell

What the met did was superb, 8 minutes from first 911 call to 3 dead scumbags is pretty damn impressive. Lets just hope we don't find out what the actual response time would be in Dublin, let alone anywhere else!

Deiseen

StringerBell wrote: »

What the met did was superb, 8 minutes from first 911 call to 3 dead scumbags is pretty damn impressive. Lets just hope we don't find out what the actual response time would be in Dublin, let alone anywhere else!

No talk of the IRA lads found with 6kg of TNT...

road_high

BBM77 wrote: »

There has been a ASU based in Waterford for years. I’d say this is some dozy Dud that could not tell the difference between Waterford And Kilkenny. Why would you even put an ASU in Kilkenny being that it has such a small population.

Yea because the metropolis of Waterford is just so much more important with its barely double population!
Kilkenny is more of a terror threat due to the large congregations of crowds of all difference nationalities, but still low. They'll go for dublin if they want to do anything here

road_high

Sosurface wrote: »

There are 5 "cities" named. One of them is not a major Irish city. One not named is. Hope this helps.

Waterford isn't a major city...53000 people live there- it's not major, nor are limerick or Galway tbh

road_high

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I doubt Waterford is anywhere on ISIS's target list. They would aim for busy places like a major city, football match, concert etc and Waterford has none of these, very rare there is a high concentration of people in one place in Waterford.

I'd think tramore beach if anywhere was a risk.

Deiseen

road_high wrote: »

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I doubt Waterford is anywhere on ISIS's target list. They would aim for busy places like a major city, football match, concert etc and Waterford has none of these, very rare there is a high concentration of people in one place in Waterford.

I'd think tramore beach if anywhere was a risk.

Waterford has over double the population and gets just as many tourists as Kilkenny.

Kilkenny looks rammed with tourists because the place is tiny.

alta stare

I dont believe any extremist is stupid enough to attack anywhere in Ireland. Not because we have them all under 24hr surveillance, not because we arent a big enough target but i believe they know how easy it is for them to pretty much hide here. They have a back door to the UK, the can come and go as they please within reason. Any person with any level of intelligence who is engaged in terrorist activity will see this.

Perhaps a lone wolf attack may happen but usually that is done by someone who is mentally unstable or whos head has been turned due to many factors which are mostly far from religous or idealogical beliefs. To be fair if i suddendly said **** it im angry at the world i could plan and carry out an attack which has nothing to do with ISIS or the likes but them ****ers would claim it anyway.

This argument about who between Kilkenny or Waterford being a target is pretty dumb to be honest.

greenspurs

Deiseen wrote: »

Waterford has over double the population and gets just as many tourists as Kilkenny.

Kilkenny looks rammed with tourists because the place is tiny.

Or less visitors than Kilkenny ..............
Overseas visitors by county (2015)

1. Dublin: 4,938,000
2. Cork: 1,449,000
3. Galway: 1,354,000
4. Kerry: 1,026,000
5. Clare: 597,000
6. Limerick: 537,000
7. Mayo: 302,000
8. Donegal: 289,000
9. Kilkenny: 267,000
10. Waterford: 263,000

wakka12

What do you mean by ISIS are active in waterford? Are you referring to the couple who were arrested in waterford? They are just two people associated with terrorism who happened to be living in waterford, I dont think there was any larger network which they were part of which was specifically targeting waterford

Johnboy1951

greenspurs wrote: »

Or less visitors than Kilkenny ..............
Overseas visitors by county (2015)

1. Dublin: 4,938,000
2. Cork: 1,449,000
3. Galway: 1,354,000
4. Kerry: 1,026,000
5. Clare: 597,000
6. Limerick: 537,000
7. Mayo: 302,000
8. Donegal: 289,000
9. Kilkenny: 267,000
10. Waterford: 263,000

If I visit Donegal for a few days, am I not a tourist?
Got a link to that publication?

greenspurs

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

If I visit Donegal for a few days, am I not a tourist?
Got a link to that publication?

OVERSEAS visitor stats....
Failte Ireland website......

greenspurs

road_high wrote: »

I'd think tramore beach if anywhere was a risk.

:D:D
Are you serious ?? Tramore beach ? Isis Attack ?? :cool:

Deiseen

greenspurs wrote: »

Deiseen wrote: »

Waterford has over double the population and gets just as many tourists as Kilkenny.

Kilkenny looks rammed with tourists because the place is tiny.

Or less visitors than Kilkenny ..............
Overseas visitors by county (2015)

1. Dublin: 4,938,000
2. Cork: 1,449,000
3. Galway: 1,354,000
4. Kerry: 1,026,000
5. Clare: 597,000
6. Limerick: 537,000
7. Mayo: 302,000
8. Donegal: 289,000
9. Kilkenny: 267,000
10. Waterford: 263,000

Oh. My. God. 4000 more visitors!!! Unbelievable!!! I didn't know that the amount was that high, jesus some difference there boy, can't believe it, unreal.

greenspurs

Deiseen wrote: »

Oh. My. God. 4000 more visitors!!! Unbelievable!!! I didn't know that the amount was that high, jesus some difference there boy, can't believe it, unreal.

Its ok.... just because you were proved incorrect.... Relax....