Reason for terriost attacks

gravity9.81

After a drink fueled chat in a pub about the latest attacks with 2 brits and a aussie they seamed to think the attaks where religious based. While watching sky news a comment was made saying its not got to do with the war in iraq/afganistan/syria/libia or any other british forgein policy. Im not so sure if theses wars didnt take place would isis have come in to excistance and would thay hate the west as much as they do. Whats there reason do after hours think that they kill innocent people for.

Nika Bolokov

Because there mentally ill

scudzilla

gravity9.81 wrote: »

After a drink fueled chat in a pub about the latest attacks with 2 brits and a aussie they seamed to think the attaks where religious based. While watching sky news a comment was made saying its not got to do with the war in iraq/afganistan/syria/libia or any other british forgein policy. Im not so sure if theses wars didnt take place would isis have come in to excistance and would thay hate the west as much as they do. Whats there reason do after hours think that they kill innocent people for.

I've heard the main reason they go after people is bad grammar

hedzball

40 clap free virgin pigs....



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Beyondgone

Grammar nazis, look away. Let the normal people reply.

Shoes and Boots

gravity9.81 wrote: »

After a drink fueled chat in a pub about the latest attacks with 2 brits and a aussie they seamed to think the attaks where religious based. While watching sky news a comment was made saying its not got to do with the war in iraq/afganistan/syria/libia or any other british forgein policy. Im not so sure if theses wars didnt take place would isis have come in to excistance and would thay hate the west as much as they do. Whats there reason do after hours think that they kill innocent people for.

Poverty, they has nothing and for this reason they has nothing to loose. They go to paradise were they think will live better. Some of them possibly was offended by social welfare workers and lost or did not get money for life. It's protest, same like riots in London some years ago. British politics killed those people in London, bringing people of Iraq, Libia and Syria to poverty. If person has something to loose,he will think twice before he will come to kill people. Tell thanks to Tony, May and person who was between them, forgot he's name.

Widdershins

They are fulfilling their role in the advancement of a 7th century style global Islamic caliphate. It's quite well known, has been predicted for a while, they've even made it fairly clear themselves.

So yes the Aussies nailed it. Not that it's a hard one.

Atlantic Dawn

They probably listened to too many stories from their parents all their lives about the Black And Tans occupying British forces on their homelands.

greencap

The bonkers and/or heartless middle east rich buying chaos.

The jihadis are of course up for it, but they're probably the pawns of billionaires.

I'm sure theres others who would also not terribly mind having potential enemy countries in a state of perpetual chaos.

And maybe they'd have good reason.

Its a tapestry of reasons. Only made possible to this extent by a totalitarian religion.


Money, oil, religion, ignorance, tribes, colonialism, bad history, strategic location, injustices, greed, intolerance.
The middle east is just a self perpetuating fire of all things negative, I doubt a committee tasked with purposefully coming up with a perfectly fcked up place could design a situation so intensely fcked.

Shoes and Boots

Nika Bolokov wrote: »

Because there mentally ill

Mentally ill is those who destroyed them lifes and made them nothing to loose. You eat everyday, that why you dont understand why people who lost them families and members of the family, who doesn't have food came to pay back.I would like see you at them place and how you will sing then

Madagascan

It's religious.
Islam has declared war on the non Islam World.
And itself.

NIMAN

I say let them have their caliphate, let them all settle in, then nuke it.

tomwaterford

To push the invovement of britain in the middle east to top of discussion above brexit duribg an election campaign??

gravity9.81

Widdershins wrote: »

They are fulfilling their role in the advancement of a 7th century style global Islamic caliphate. It's quite well known, has been predicted for a while, they've even made it fairly clear themselves.

Ya i get that they are claiming caliphate however why is it now that the attacks are getting more frequent and reaching uk/france.
If its going back to the 7th century why is it happing more now.
Seams to be a combination of wars,social and radical religious beliefs. IMO

Hank Scorpio

CIA / US Foreign Policy with their allies has to take a big chunk of the blame, rest of the blame lies on Politicians for allowing this cavemen like incompatible ideology become indulgent throughout developed countries.

Dirty Dingus McGee

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

Mentally ill is those who destroyed them lifes and made them nothing to loose. You eat everyday, that why you dont understand why people who lost them families and members of the family, who doesn't have food came to pay back.I would like see you at them place and how you will sing then

That post is a massive indictment of the Irish education system.

Shoes and Boots

Innocent people in London? Those people brought to power those who destroyed this fighters homes, killed members of them families and destroyed them lifes!Let call things them names!

Widdershins

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

Poverty, they has nothing and for this reason they has nothing to loose.

They don't seem to be particularly poor and some who went to Syria to fight for ISIS were from comfortable middle class families.

Sosurface

Look Islam and indeed all religion is akin to an insidious and contagious mental illness. Until we treat it as such and research a cure or treatment we will regularly have to deal with with these deranged cult followers causing mayhem doing "insert deity/prophets name here" 's work.

Shoes and Boots

Widdershins wrote: »

They don't seem to be particularly poor and some who went to Syria to fight for ISIS were from comfortable middle class families.

Who told you that? BBC? "Big British Crap?

Atlantic Dawn

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

Innocent people in London? Those people brought to power those who destroyed this fighters homes, killed members of them families and destroyed them lifes!Let call things them names!

First person named who was killed was a Canadian, how did she bring anyone to power in the UK?

Widdershins

gravity9.81 wrote: »

Ya i get that they are claiming caliphate however why is it now that the attacks are getting more frequent and reaching uk/france.
If its going back to the 7th century why is it happing more now.
Seams to be a combination of wars,social and radical religious beliefs. IMO

The 7th century bit describes the kind of legal system and culture they approve of and plan to set up wen they have their caliphate.

It's happening more now for a few reasons (it's actually been happening for a while but wasn't recognised for what it is and we didnt hear much about it), but it was predicted a few months ago that after they got a hiding in the Middle East they would concentrate more on Europe.

Sosurface

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

Innocent people in London? Those people brought to power those who destroyed this fighters homes, killed members of them families and destroyed them lifes!Let call things them names!

Pretty despicable opinion for someone currently dependent on welfare support from the "western pigs" dont you agree?

Widdershins

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

Who told you that? BBC? "Big British Crap?

I've read extensively, I'm not sure where I read that particular random piece of information. I'm sure you could do a little bit of research, if you somehow discover that the attackers were typically ''poor'' please do post it here! However, it wasn't the BBC, who are notorious for downplaying the facts to avoid insulting the Muslim community.

AzcuzCoz

The main reason for a terror attack is, as the name suggests, to terrorise the living day lights out of people.

Atlantic Dawn

I bet when they name the 3 involved all 3 will be UK born.

gitzy16v

gravity9.81 wrote: »

Ya i get that they are claiming caliphate however why is it now that the attacks are getting more frequent and reaching uk/france.
If its going back to the 7th century why is it happing more now.
Seams to be a combination of wars,social and radical religious beliefs. IMO

They are creating division between Muslims and the western world...its all part of the plan,someone posted an article to al qaeda plan for Islamic domination a while back(cant remember who? or where:o:oany help boardsies?)we are on Step 4 or 5 out of 7

Not sure this is it but its the same jist....Ignore the hyperbole in the introduction but there is links all over for this plan.
http://www.truthandaction.org/20-year-7-step-plan-al-qaeda-islamic-domination-world-right-track/2/
Its got fcuk all to do with wars in the ME sure the west is taking out people opposed to ISIS like Saddam,Gadaffi and Assad

MyPeopleDrankTheSoup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6uFXEjgX8Q

pangbang

Because they are different from us, and us from them. That's it, that it happens to be religion is by the by. Its a biological imperative that when a competing "thing" is introduced into a new region, it will try to claim it as its own. As the saying goes, "we're not here to take part, we're here to take over" Its simply a numbers game.

scwazrh

The reason for terrorist attacks is fairly straight forward .The attacks happens because a group of people do not agree with the way another group of people live their life and because of this the terrorist group feel it is their duty to destroy and punish the other group.

Shoes and Boots

Sosurface wrote: »

Pretty despicable opinion for someone currently dependent on welfare support from the "western pigs" dont you agree?

Those "western pigs" must pay them bils for what they did starting from first black slave brought to UK until what they did on East today!

dreamers75

The reason is the murder of people in Syria, Iraq and whatever other place that innocent people are killed by a war machine. The UK/US have been doing this for years and it wont stop.

There is always casualties in wars on both sides.

Shoes and Boots

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

First person named who was killed was a Canadian, how did she bring anyone to power in the UK?

There was nothing on her face, it's first. The next read were is Canadian forces now, and who elected those who sent them there.

Shoes and Boots

Widdershins wrote: »

I've read extensively, I'm not sure where I read that particular random piece of information. I'm sure you could do a little bit of research, if you somehow discover that the attackers were typically ''poor'' please do post it here! However, it wasn't the BBC, who are notorious for downplaying the facts to avoid insulting the Muslim community.

I agree with you about some romantics who has nothing in a head. I think Jihadi John who was cutting heads was from rich enough family from UK. Yes, that's truth but it's more exception than normal.

Ultimate Seduction

I live in the sticks, if they ever target Ireland I'll be grand.

Grayson

Widdershins wrote: »

They are fulfilling their role in the advancement of a 7th century style global Islamic caliphate. It's quite well known, has been predicted for a while, they've even made it fairly clear themselves.

So yes the Aussies nailed it. Not that it's a hard one.

Islamist's have been around for about 10 years.

Shoes and Boots

We could talk plenty, but yesterday In Iraq,Syria and Libia were UK politics started mess, died a hundreds more people than in UK yesterday. When people dying in UK, it's tradegy, when people dying on East nobody give a,.... about it. Is this fair?

Atlantic Dawn

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

There was nothing on her face, it's first. The next read were is Canadian forces now, and who elected those who sent them there.

Well it goes to show how backward as fook they were, they could have killed 7 of how crude can I say it as "their own" last night and not known them from Adam, complete backward idiots living in a dream like people who believe in the fairies and lucky charms.

Junkyard Tom

It should by now be self-evident that by attacking Muslims overseas, you will occasionally spawn twisted and, as we saw yesterday, even murderous hatred at home.

Grayson

scwazrh wrote: »

The reason for terrorist attacks is fairly straight forward .The attacks happens because a group of people do not agree with the way another group of people live their life and because of this the terrorist group feel it is their duty to destroy and punish the other group.

So northern Ireland was because of Catholics/protestants didn't like how Catholics/protestants lived?

There have been lots of studies about these things. There's political and social causes.

Even in the case of suicide bombs in Palestine/Israel they found that religion was a minor factor. It was generally because of frustration and anger at how they say their friends/family/people being treated by Israel.The bombers aims were always more social/political than religious.

The problem is that there's so many groups and so many causes and so many people involved. It's easy to say that a group in Palestine is the same as a group in Egypt or the same as ISIS. It's not the case

It's kind of like the old phrase about happy families. Every happy family is the same every unhappy one is unhappy for it's own reasons.

There may be certain religious and cultural similarities between the groups but there's a hell of a lot that separate them.

Shoes and Boots

I think if those people who did this in UK would have job or support they definitely wouldn't go on street with knives. Real terrorists come to street with Kalasnikov and bombs, how it's was in Paris. Enough remember London riots to understand how high pressure is on London or Birmingham "bottom" were ISIS could easily find solders for attacks thanks to UK welfare system.

Widdershins

Grayson wrote: »

Islamist's have been around for about 10 years.

Islamism has existed since the early days of Islam itself, unless you and I have a different understanding of what Islamism means.

Are you aware of the Khawarij ?

And then the Ottoman Empire in itself could probably be considered Islamist.

Atlantic Dawn

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

I think if those people who did this in UK would have job or support they definitely wouldn't go on street with knives. Real terrorists come to street with Kalasnikov and bombs, how it's was in Paris. Enough remember London riots to understand how high pressure is on London or Birmingham "bottom" were ISIS could easily find solders for attacks thanks to UK welfare system.

A dodgy arms dealer wouldn't sell guns to these 3 clowns, one of them was asking a neighbour about a van he bought if it was possible to get the van in automatic, he couldn't even drive a bloody manual transmission vehicle, clearly the fooking out and out idiot had never heard of something called Google.

Madagascan

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

I bet when they name the 3 involved all 3 will be UK born.

Though their allegiance will not be to the UK.

Madagascan

Grayson wrote: »

Widdershins wrote: »

They are fulfilling their role in the advancement of a 7th century style global Islamic caliphate. It's quite well known, has been predicted for a while, they've even made it fairly clear themselves.

So yes the Aussies nailed it. Not that it's a hard one.

Islamist's have been around for about 10 years.

1400 years more like.

iLikeWaffles

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

Mentally ill is those who destroyed them lifes and made them nothing to loose. You eat everyday, that why you dont understand why people who lost them families and members of the family, who doesn't have food came to pay back.I would like see you at them place and how you will sing then

Anyone else read this in the voice of Ali G? :rolleyes:

bilbot79

greencap wrote: »

The bonkers and/or heartless middle east rich buying chaos.

The jihadis are of course up for it, but they're probably the pawns of billionaires.

I'm sure theres others who would also not terribly mind having potential enemy countries in a state of perpetual chaos.

And maybe they'd have good reason.

Its a tapestry of reasons. Only made possible to this extent by a totalitarian religion.


Money, oil, religion, ignorance, tribes, colonialism, bad history, strategic location, injustices, greed, intolerance.
The middle east is just a self perpetuating fire of all things negative, I doubt a committee tasked with purposefully coming up with a perfectly fcked up place could design a situation so intensely fcked.

There is enormous wisdom in this post

Shoes and Boots

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

A dodgy arms dealer wouldn't sell guns to these 3 clowns, one of them was asking a neighbour about a van he bought if it was possible to get the van in automatic, he couldn't even drive a bloody manual transmission vehicle, clearly the fooking out and out idiot had never heard of something called Google.

Those "clowns" how you call them, "made" all british special forces and services trough them arses.This is third accident per nearly last 3 months and british special forces and services,equipped from pencil to satellite,cant do anything against those,how you call them clowns.I think that british special services are clowns but not those guys who made that noise yesterday.

Atlantic Dawn

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

Those "clowns" how you call them, "made" all british speacial forces and services trough the arse.This is third accident per nearly last 3 months and british special forces and services,equipped from pencil to satellite,cant do anything against those,how you call them clowns.I think that british special services are clowns but not those guys who made that noise yesterday.

They were killed within 8 minutes of their initial attack, hardly "skilled" to any degree.

Shoes and Boots

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

They were killed within 8 minutes of their initial attack, hardly "skilled" to any degree.

Per 8 minutes ? And what ? 7 killed,around 50 injured ? Those special forces had kill those guys Before they came on street,Not After !

Widdershins

Shoes and Boots wrote: »

We could talk plenty, but yesterday In Iraq,Syria and Libia were UK politics started mess, died a hundreds more people than in UK yesterday. When people dying in UK, it's tradegy, when people dying on East nobody give a,.... about it. Is this fair?

That's not true. People do care when people in the East die. You need to understand that people try to shut it out when it is a very regular thing. If they didn't do that, they would be constantly depressed.
But when it happens in the UK, it is new and different, because the UK is in peace time and not a war zone, so people seem to take more notice.

Since you have mentioned the ISIS attacks in the East, can you explain what you think is the excuse for those attacks?